Englebert

Short-sighted? Wow, your analytical skills are not up to snuff. How in the world do you conclude that I think illegal immigration is going to stop. You must have concluded that or you wouldn't have made that statement. That's flailing wildly. Short sightedness is protecting/coddling a group that has defied your laws and expecting them to love/respect/admire you in return. Like you, I've also heard about immigration reform since I was a kid. Neither party will do anything about it, which I'm sure you are well aware of. I've been saying for twenty years or more that if you fine/jail the citizens that hire the illegals, you can practically end the problem. If you take away the incentives for illegals to come here, they won't come. Increasing incentives increases immigration. I don't think that people here, new or old, want to be a part of a country that selectively enforces their laws. That is exactly why many of them come here...fairness. So which do I choose...the nation of laws..enforced equally. Which sadly, is far from what is happening. Do you actually consider appeasement a viable solution? How do you think those negatively affected feel when people defying U.S. laws are coddled? Let's keep on the theme of short-sightedness. Well maybe not really short-sightedness, but along those lines. I'm still baffled, and you haven't explained your rationale, as to why you think Conservatives/Republicans demonize immigrants. You might have a valid reason. I would sure love to hear it.

I'm baffled as to why you keep saying Republicans are demonizing illegals. That is simply false. Some do, most do not. If someone takes up residence in your house, I'm sure you will do everything possible to get them out. That doesn't me you hate them or want to demonize them. That is the way most Republicans feel. Saying you want them out doesn't equate to demonization. The topic is on what laws/benefits apply to illegals. I'm not sure why you keep bringing legal immigrants to the forefront. Conflating to make a point? I guess Republicans should pander to illegals if we give them the right to vote. So let's try again. Which laws apply and which benefits should be afforded illegal (again, illegal) people residing "illegally" in this country? I would put your number 3 point to Point number one. I strongly agree with this point, and agree it should have happened a long time ago. In fact, I think if this point was enforced, every other point would be mute. But since this is not being enforced, topics like this must exist. I don't agree with a path to citizenship. Personally I would like to pass a law that says that if you get caught residing in the United States illegally then you will be deported and you are permanently ineligible to ever become a U.S. citizen. I don't agree with any benefits for illegals. Ever. Come in legally and you can get them.

Yes, there is a decision to be made. I agree that people here illegally are afforded some basic rights. But are they afforded everything a legal person is afforded? Should a person here illegally be given the right to obtain a License to Carry permit? Or a driver's license? Or a identity card? If all laws apply to people regardless of status, shouldn't everyone be allowed Social Security, Obamacare, the right to vote, etc., etc., etc. So there is a decision to be made: what laws apply to people and what laws apply to citizens. If Single Payer healthcare is implemented, should all "people" get free healthcare or should "citizens" get free healthcare? (I was laughing when I typed the word "free"...twice.) The whole point of this topic is exactly what decision is to be made. Open borders coinciding with free college, free healthcare, free monetary (State/Federal) assistance, etc. cannot stand. If no decision is to be made, where are we heading? On a side note, I'm really surprised you sunk to stereotyping Conservative/Republicans. Very few (and none on this board that I have seen) demonize the immigrant population. Most want and are okay with LEGAL immigration. I don't know anyone that demonizes legal immigrants. And furthermore, I don't know of anyone that demonizes illegal immigrants. I know many who want to stop the flow of ILLEGAL immigrants. This is still a nation of laws. Very, very few "demonize" the illegal for being a person. I'm baffled as to why you channel an obvious liberal slander against Conservative/Republicans.

Should people residing in the United States illegally be given the right to bear arms? Should the United States allow foreign invaders to break our laws then legally arm themselves? Or restated, should hard working undocumented people trying to better themselves and their family be afforded the ultimate opportunity to protect themselves/family from unsolicited attack? What do you think? Should illegals be given the right to bear arms? (I thought about this topic years ago, but never posted it. While renewing my LTC today, I thought about it again. Today is as good a day as any...maybe better.)

I did a quick DuckDuckGo search using the phrase "voter fraud in Pennsylvania" (the title of this topic). I didn't even read the articles, but here are the links to the first few: [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] [Hidden Content] etc., etc., etc. There are more instances of voter fraud stories in Pennsylvania than unarmed Black men being killed by police in the whole United States. So shouldn't we consider voter fraud an epidemic in Pennsylvania? Whose lies? Voter fraud is negligible? What makes you think that? If you don't try to catch the cheaters, not many will be caught. If you look at the number of speeding tickets issued, you would get the idea that the amount of people speeding on the highways is negligible. Now go out on I-10, drive the speed limit, and count how many cars pass you versus how many cars you pass...or even keep up with. Speeding is negligible though.

20-13 OT Orangefield Final.

13-13 End of 4th. Heading to OT.

13-13 Tied 3:14 4th

13-7 HF End of 3rd

When I voted Monday, I accidently picked up two "I Voted" stickers. When I got back to work, I put both of them on and jokingly said I voted twice. A little later, one of my co-workers came up to me, and in a very hushed voice, leaned in and said "I don't think it's right for someone to vote twice". I had to tell her that it was a joke. She didn't say anything, but it was clear she was embarrassed.

There is no "p" in Hamshire. It's Hamshire-Fannett.

42-31 HJ Final

42-31 HJ 4:05 4th

35-31 HJ 9:12 4th

31-28 HF 10:58 4th

28-25 HJ End of 3rd

28-25 HJ 3rd

25-21 HF 3rd

Apparently Facebook and Twitter haven't been briefed. Still censoring for the Liberals.

I just texted this to a couple of friends. Went the Biden route and claimed it for my own. Luckily I didn't use Facebook or Twitter because it would have been blocked and I would have be banned (blacklisted). If only I had an account with either one of these. Tik Tok is almost starting to sound like more of an American company than these.

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It's a lot different quote than what SW1966 purported as Trump saying. His lie has been uttered by the Left for years now...and it is a flat out lie. And also, Trump said it in jest. I don't think I would joke like that, but to each his own. What is wrong with dating someone that isn't kin to you? What is gross about it? It sounds like you missed the point where Trump said "if she WASN'T my daughter". I'm thinking if she wasn't my daughter, I would date her also. And she's not, so I would love to date her. And I think I can take Jared. Maybe, who knows, Jared might be a MMA fighter.

Well, he didn't come back more respectful. In fact, he got worse. Congrats goes to SmashMouth. Should we start a poll on how many Conservative vs Liberal posters that have been banned. I always hear from the Liberals on this forum that the Conservatives grossly outnumber them, but yet, they seem to be the only ones that get banned. And these are the same people that hate Trump because of his decorum. Hmmm.

Come on AggiesAreWe, give him 5 more minutes to answer my question. On second thought, nevermind. He wouldn't answer it anyway.

Would you like to comment on why you blatantly lied while you still have a chance?