Englebert

I got a kick out of that one. I'm still laughing.

Like some of the ones you yourself made?

Again, you are not good at this. So now you fancy yourself as a psychologist (a bad one) along with attacker, bully, victim and puppetmaster. The continual ringing of "He so special" has done a number on your psyche, and possibly the reasoning for you to feel adequate enough to engage in childish dribble. But I would be willing to bet you will once again try to play the victim card. Law Man was right, you do add to the board...the entertainment value. You might want to stick to the other threads were your severe lack of creativity is masked.

You're not very good at this are you. I'm guessing you will continue to play victim even after coughing up this gem. Rules for thee but not for me. Is that not you and your ilk's credo?

If you want a healthy debate, then quit resorting to slander and personal attacks. It's not a hard concept.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. It's odd you can go from aggressor, to victim, then to puppetmaster all in one conversation. That is some feat that can only be accomplished in the realm of delusion.

Do you know Joe Biden? He likes to act like a big ol' bully too. If you don't want insults levied your way, don't engage in childish quips and baseless allegations. It's not a hard concept, but seems to be lost on you for some reason. Why do you feel the need to keep embarrassing yourself? You basically threaten violence, and continue with the childish "I bet you're chicken" playground antics. You seem to be embarrassed (deservingly so), and you can only attempt to save face by resorting to the tried and true childish antics of bullying. What's hilarious is that you engage these tactics, I respond in kind, and you break out the threats while simultaneously trying to act like the victim. Like you said...sad...but entertaining for us. Do you have any more antiquated gems we can laugh at?

Are you implying physical abuse now? Are you trying to be a bully, or stifle my speech with physical threats? Are you really that thin skinned? These bullies you speak of...are they in the habit of lobbing baseless accusations, then turn to violence when challenged to backup their pathetic statements? Are you one of those? Are you channeling your inner Joe Biden? I would hate to see you go. You are the quintessential example of why we should all vote Republican...or at least against Liberals. What's scary is that the more our educational system flounders, the more y'all seem to grow in numbers. Hopefully more non-Liberals will awaken to this, and get off their butts to vote. You do provide motivation.

Yes indeed, for you. Are you tired of embarrassing yourself? Would you like to explain how you can't even interpret a clear statement, but somehow have the skillfulness to make a judgmental statement about someone in which you have no clue. That is sad, and laughably hubristic. That laughter must be deafening by now.

No, I only "talk" this way to self-anointed enlightened Liberals who think they can throw out baseless allegations then run when confronted. You accuse me of crying over a Trump loss, then run like a frightened schoolgirl when tasked to provide evidence leading to such a ridiculous analysis. The crassness is just a mocking of the Liberal method of debate. And again, your analytical skill are just dumbfounding. Do you really think the crassness is due to you not thinking like me? Running from your own baseless allegations never entered your mind? Are you lazy or just that stupid? It's like "debating" with a kindergartner.

Again, your analytical skills are atrocious. I had to spoon feed you what LumRaiderFan implied...and what most, if not all, others on this board readily interpreted. You seem to be the only one that is lost, evidenced by your proclamation that Trump fires everyone that doesn't agree with him. Do you hear the laughter?

What do you mean you said nothing about me specifically? It's obvious now how you can't even interpret LumRaiderFan's clear statement. Are you always this willfully ignorant of your own statements? You said Trump supporters will cry like Liberals if he loses. Just to remind you of your own statement: Are you now trying to backtrack on that statement? My guess is yes. You then abandon that line and try to deflect with this doozy: (And simultaneously accusing me of crying if Trump loses.) Are you now trying to deflect from providing evidence of this delusional statement? My guess is yes. You are terrible at debating. You try to deflect when called out on your obvious childish statements. Really, how are you not embarrassed? Do you actually think even sixth graders can't see through your pathetic tactics. I am curious as to who you have "debated" in the past that makes you think you are adequate at this. Seems like there was a whole lot of "he's so special" mocking going on that was misinterpreted as literal.

Your analytical skills are severely lacking to the point of non-existent. What makes you think I will cry like a Liberal? Please, show me some evidence. I will no doubt go in the gutter with any Liberal that drags me there in a so-called "debate", but I do not cry or scream at the sky about a political defeat...unlike your side...as well-documented. So again, please show some evidence that leads you to the comical conclusion that I will act in that childish fashion if Trump loses. I guess grasping at straws and trying to see what sticks is your only evidence of trying to twist things to fit your delusional reality. And you made the comment on another thread that you were a realist...how funny.

That doesn't bolster your argument one bit.

Not suggesting it was that close, but the point was that Republicans didn't cry and retreat to safe spaces, or scream at the sky, or even devise a backup plan to unseat Obama. Your suggestion that Republicans will cry like Democrats when they don't get their way seems to have no merit.

Wow, that is what you read, or misinterpreted. I'll let LumRaiderFan respond, but I must say, I'm pretty sure everyone else read the comment to mean "fire him" for incompetence, not because he disagrees with you.

Republicans did not cry like Democrats....well, ever...even when Obama shockingly won re-election in 2012.

How many people are saved per year because they exercised their right of self protection? Of those 25,000+ gun deaths, how many are suicides? How many people are unnecessarily put in difficult, life altering situations because incompetent people are allowed to choose incompetent people to govern? How many people speed on the highways versus how many speeding tickets are issued? If you don't see a high rate of recorded violations, does that mean the crime is not happening? And again, why is the infringement of one's ability of self protection not considered oppression, but simple identifying oneself is considered an undue burden for someone's ability to choose our representatives...people who govern over not just themselves?

I'm not sure how Republicans or Democrats feel about convicted felons (or persons convicted of any crime) being allowed to vote. That is, I don't know what the party lines are. My personal thoughts are that anyone should be allowed to vote. I don't think you should be stripped of your right to vote because of some crime. Granted, I haven't thought about this topic much, so I'm definitely persuadable. In the same vein, I don't think a person convicted of a crime should lose their second amendment rights. I'm open to stripping that right if the crime involves the use of a firearm, but would definitely need to see the wording of the law (which would have to include measures to keep the law from being abused). My stance is that if you are stripped of your second amendment rights, you should necessarily be stripped of other rights, including the right to vote. If you are deemed deficient in the your ability to protect yourself, you should be deemed deficient in your ability to choose the people that represent yourself and others. What are your thoughts on this issue? Should a person lose his right to vote if convicted of a crime? If so, what crimes should be included? If you lose the right to vote, should you also lose your second amendment rights (and vice-versa)?

My point is...why is one considered oppression but not the other? Why are so many "undue burdens" perfectly acceptable for exercising one's second amendment right of self protection, but just the mention of identifying yourself at a voting booth is tantamount to extreme suppression of rights (according to the Liberal position)? Is having the ability to protect yourself not as important as the ability to select your representative?

Would this be considered voter suppression in your eyes?

So it is an undue hardship to have a person obtain an ID but not an undue hardship to actually make a person come down to a polling station to cast a vote? Is it an undue hardship to require an ID to obtain government benefits? I'm curious, should the government force a person to show ID to vote? Should a person be subjected to a background check in order to qualify to vote? Should a person be required to attend a mandatory education class on how to vote (and pay for privilege of taking the class)? Should a person be required to carry around documentation of this government sanctioned education course to exercise their right to vote? Should a person be stripped of their right to vote if found guilty of particular crimes? Should a person with mental disabilities be allowed to vote? If all/any of these things were to come to fruition, would you complain that the people's right to vote would be infringed?

Your sanctimonious position correct? Please describe these people that can somehow register to vote, find a way to a polling booth, but are incapable of obtaining an ID. Should these same people that are incapable of obtaining ID be allowed to exercise their second amendment right of self protection and buy a firearm without said ID?

An undue burden huh? So is it an undue burden for someone to show ID to receive welfare, money for which they depend on to live? Is it an undue burden to show ID to actually buy food, which is necessary to live on. How heartless is a government that will not give their needy citizens money to buy food without placing an undue burden on them? And secondly, how sanctimonious does one have to be to think that people are incapable of obtaining an ID?

Just simple regurgitation of Liberal talking points. (I know you know that, but just wanted to put it out there to exemplify UT Alum oft claims of the reverse.)