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Since our very 1st game after dropping down... Jasper gave us a nice welcome to 3A in Week 0 2004.

I don't think it's very likely at all that Navasota will go small school, even though they are only the 3rd largest. There are 4 schools smaller than Navasota including: (1) '07 District 19-3A Champion Madisonville (2) '07 Area finalist Caldwell (who went 9-1 in the regular season only losing to Giddings) (3) '07 Playoff qualifier Rockdale (who played State champ Liberty Hill it's closest game of the year only losing by 8 pts, and then only losing to state finalist China Spring by 3 pts in the playoffs) (4) '07 Playoff qualifier Cameron Yoe who has tons of tradition and is supposed to be much stronger this year The two teams larger than Navasota are: (1) Taylor, who went 4-6 and 2-8 the past two years (2) Bryan Rudder - a brand new school. In 2008 their varsity team will consist of 9th-11th graders only.

I've been wanting to put something like this together for a long time but I never had complete enough records to do it until now. Since I now have the complete records of every high school football team in Orange County going back to 1970 I can put a historical head-to-head chart together. I only went back to 1978 on this because I plan on doing another table just like this one for Jefferson County teams and at the moment I can only make it back to 1978 for all of those teams (not counting Sabine Pass). The teams listed outside of those two counties are essentially the teams that I just happen to have complete records of going back to at least 1978 so that's really the only criteria for inclusion on the list. As I get more histories extended back further I will be expanding these tables to be a bit more inclusive of the entire Southeast Texas area. Just to explain what you're seeing, reading across from left-to-right the numbers in each box are the All-Time Win-Loss-Tie records over the past 30 seasons of that team vs. the team listed at the top of each column. Records listed in green indicate a winning record, whereas records listed in red indicate a losing record. The two columns on the far right are the overall totals for each team. The first column is just the sum of all games played divided up in to wins-losses-ties. The second column is the win-loss-tie record in EACH SERIES. (i.e. Jasper's overall series record vs. Orange County is 2-1-2 because they are leading in their series against LCM and BC, losing in their series against WOS and tied in their series with Vidor and OF.) Give me a little time to put the Jefferson County one together because obviously, it's going to be a bit larger since there are more teams, but it should be up in the next few days. PNG, Jasper, Silsbee and Lumberton are the only programs that have played all 5 Orange County teams over the past 30 years. Port Arthur Memorial has never played against an Orange County team since the school opened. Head-to-Head Records of Orange County Football Teams vs. Southeast Texas 1978-2007

Well at least we likely will not have to go up against two top 5 ranked teams in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs over the next 2 years unless something drastically improves in 22-3A and 24-3A. Navasota is supposed to be very good next year, but they are almost guaranteed to be going Division 1. The U.I.L. has actually been extremely nice to us for a change in where we likely will be in the playoff bracket. The way it is looking we will be the shoe-in for the top district seed in the D2 playoffs as Silsbee will go D1 unless there are some major upsets. That will have us most likely going up against the runner up in the still very weak District 22 in the Bi-District round. Since the U.I.L. made District 23 the BYE district and not District 24, we should only have to face the runnerup team from District 24 in the Area round of the playoffs. Our luck will run out should we again advance to the 3rd round as we would then likely have to face the winner between the champ of 17-3A (Gilmer or Tatum) and 19-3A (Waco La Vega?) Long story short, the top seed from 21-3A in the D2 playoffs is guaranteed to not have to face another top district seed until the 3rd round of the playoffs at the very earliest. Region III playoff bracket in D2 17-3A Champ plays 18-3A Runnerup 19-3A Champ plays 20-3A Runnerup 21-3A Champ plays 22-3A Runnerup 23-3A Champ (bye) plays 24-3A Runnerup Since 23-3A is a bye district the 24-3A Runnerup will play the winner of 21-3A champ vs. 22-3A runnerup in the 2nd round 17-3A Runnerup plays 18-3A Champ 19-3A Runnerup plays 20-3A Champ 21-3A Runnerup plays 22-3A Champ 23-3A Runnerup (bye) plays 24-3A Champ Since 23-3A is a bye, the 24-3A Champ will play the winner of 21-3A runnerup vs. 22-3A champ in the 2nd round

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The same for 4A and the lower classifications is in the works so don't feel left out...

Total number of UIL 11-man Playoff qualifiers per year 2008 around 520 (5A: 128, 4A: 128, 3A: 96, 2A: 96, 1A: 72) - the number would change if there are any BYE districts added in like 2-3A currently 2007 485 (5A: 128, 4A: 96, 3A: 93, 2A: 96, 1A: 72) 2006 485 2005 432 2004 432 2003 430 2002 430 2001 428 2000 428 1999 426 1998 426 1997 352 1996 352 1995 326 1994 326 1993 320 1992 320 1991 318 1990 318 1989 280 1988 280 1987 256 1986 256 1985 256 1984 256 1983 256 1982 256 1981 128 1980 128 1979 128 1978 128 1977 128 1976 128 1975 128 1974 128 1973 128 1972 128 1971 137 1970 137 1969 137 1968 137 1967 123 1966 124 1965 128 1964 128 1963 128 1962 128 1961 134 1960 135 1959 136 1958 135 1957 132 1956 132 1955 115 1954 115 1953 115 1952 115 1951 116 1950 100 1949 96 1948 94 1947 100 1946 96 1945 90 1944 82 1943 78 1942 66 1941 92 1940 94 1939 92 1938 64 1937 63 1936 60 1935 56 1934 52 1933 48 1932 48 1931 44 1930 36 1929 36 1928 36 1927 23 1926 24 1925 22 1924 24 1923 16 1922 23 1921 16

There aren't THAT many more high schools.... in 1960 there were 914 individual high schools that competed in UIL varsity competition. In 2007 there were 1017. What it does mean though is that for the first time ever, more than 50% of the schools in the state will qualify for the playoffs as there will be: 5A - 128 qualifiers 4A - 128 qualifiers 3A - 96 qualifiers 2A - 96 qualifiers 1A - 72 qualifiers 520 total playoff qualifiers out of what should be less than 1040 schools (I heard there would be about 20 new schools starting football in the next realignment)

I would think that this could be good news for smaller 3A schools, as the cutoff between 3A and 4A will now most likely drop to a lower number than it would have been to allow for larger districts in 4A. This has almost always been the case in the past whenever the UIL has expanded the number of teams allowed in the playoffs. In 1990 when 5A expanded from 2 to 3 playoff teams the cutoff between 4A/5A decreased for the only time in the past 50 years from 1470 to 1460 In 1996 when 4A expanded from 2 to 3 playoff teams the cutoff between 4A/3A decreased from 715 to 700 If the same holds true this year, this could mean larger schools like Brownwood have a chance of staying up in 4A (where they belong! )

The Final Ratings for the season just came out today Overall Rating 1. 2.272 - Liberty Hill 2. 2.234 - Celina 3. 1.938 - Waco La Vega 4. 1.866 - China Spring 5. 1.818 - Gilmer 6. 1.710 - Abilene Wylie 7. 1.707 - West Orange-Stark 8. 1.691 - Giddings 9. 1.543 - Cuero 10. 1.529 - Snyder 11. 1.691 - Graham 12. 1.499 - Carthage 13. 1.478 - Royse City 14. 1.471 - Vernon 15. 1.404 - Caldwell 16. 1.396 - Argyle 17. 1.331 - Frisco Wakeland 18. 1.324 - Robinson 19. 1.323 - Kirbyville 20. 1.318 - Dallas Roosevelt Highest Rated Offenses 1. 55.35 - Liberty Hill 2. 53.23 - Celina 3. 51.24 - Gilmer 4. 49.82 - Waco La Vega 5. 49.64 - Cuero 6. 49.36 - Diboll 7. 47.30 - Snyder 8. 46.37 - Palestine Westwood 9. 45.85 - Abilene Wylie 10. 45.62 - Royse City 11. 45.49 - Caldwell 12. 44.55 - Carthage 13. 44.40 - Argyle 14. 44.00 - Kirbyville 15. 43.97 - Decatur 16. 42.98 - Canyon 17. 42.78 - China Spring 18. 42.67 - Giddings 19. 42.32 - Pittsburg 20. 41.80 - Dallas Roosevelt Highest Rated Defenses 1. 24.59 - West Orange-Stark 2. 23.94 - Celina 3. 23.90 - China Spring 4. 23.18 - Graham 5. 22.94 - Liberty Hill 6. 21.38 - Giddings 7. 21.28 - Waco La Vega 8. 20.40 - Abilene Wylie 9. 19.29 - Robinson 10. 19.03 - Vernon 11. 18.87 - Burkburnett 12. 18.76 - Clyde 13. 16.94 - Andrews 14. 16.17 - Carthage 15. 15.82 - Frisco Wakeland 16. 15.81 - Sweetwater 17. 15.27 - Crockett 18. 15.23 - Midland Greenwood 19. 15.20 - Wills Point 20. 15.14 - Rio Hondo Strength of Schedule 1. 31.16 - Robinson 2. 30.20 - Rockdale 3. 29.74 - Abilene Wylie 4. 29.41 - China Spring 5. 29.18 - Liberty Hill 6. 27.00 - Graham 7. 26.96 - Burkburnett 8. 26.67 - Hutto 9. 26.35 - Waco La Vega 10. 26.27 - West Orange-Stark 11. 26.22 - Carthage 12. 25.59 - Sweetwater 13. 25.36 - Waco Connally 14. 25.33 - Snyder 15. 25.06 - Celina 16. 24.99 - Giddings 17. 24.41 - Atlanta 18. 24.32 - Caldwell 19. 24.30 - Gilmer 20. 23.96 - Iowa Park

No, I meant TJ. TJ's playoff record is still #20 in the state despite it not being around for the past 7 years. Memorial started over from scratch..... and has not accumulated enough points to make the top 500 yet. The only thing the new chart has to do with the 2007 season is that the 2007 playoff results have been factored in for all of those programs that participated. Any program, past or present, that has qualified for the playoffs is included in the rankings (notice Hebert, French and SFA all being up there as well....)

They left out two other State Champions on that list at the end: 1949 PVIL 1A Orange Wallace 34 Victoria Gross 13 1954 PVIL 2A Orange Wallace 39 Greenville Carver 0

Here's the updated version with programs ranked by total points rather than just by furthest advancement. It includes all games played through the end of thee 2007 playoffs. Southeast Texas continues to hold quite a few spots in the upper echelon... the entire list contains almost 1200 different schools so making the top 250 is top 20% #20 - TJ #28 - PNG #38 - Newton #61 - Nederland #65 - Burkeville #69 - WOS #86 - Barbers Hill #95 - Baytown Lee #125 - Jasper #139 - Hull-Daisetta #178 - Bridge City #195 - Beaumont Hebert #241 - West Brook #265 - Beaumont High #298 - Beaumont French #334 - Dayton #337 - Pt Arthur SFA #356 - Silsbee #382 - Liberty #395 - High Island #418 - Hamshire-Fannett #422 - Baytown Sterling

New update just came out today... link to ---> Massey Ratings

Yeah... you're right. Jasper came within 1 point in the 4th Quarter when it was 41-42, and they missed the kick to tie it up. Gilmer 14---14---14---7 = 49 Jasper 0----14---21---12 = 47

I'd have to say Jasper, because they had the lead over Gilmer in the 4th quarter in the state finals and only ended up losing by 2 points. 47-49 I'd say that was a lot closer than PN-G got. WO-S outscored Ennis 24-7 in the 2nd half of the 2000 finals.... but it was the first time WOS had ever faced a true Spread Offense and they caught us by surprise. Ennis unfortunately took a 31-0 lead in to the lockerroom at the half that was too much of a deficit to overcome.

I've updated it to include all games played through Week 14 of 2007. Southeast Texas doesn't make the best showing, but Dayton, Barbers Hill and PN-G all make appearances. To be eligible to make each Winning Percentage ranking, a team must have fielded a team at least half the total number of years covered in each ranking. (For example: Pflugerville Connally has only been in existence for the past 10 seasons, thus Connally is listed in the ranking covering the past 20 seasons, but not the rankings covering the past 30 seasons or more.) Teams listed in RED are still alive in the playoffs as of Week 15 of the 2007 season so their numbers will change by the end of the 2007 season.

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I put these together over 2 years ago initially and this is the first time I've actually updated them. Southeast Texas makes a fairly good showing compared to the rest of the state as a few area teams pop up on the various rankings. The records of all 1017 11-man programs competing in the UIL this season were included in compiling these and include all games played between 1951 thru the 14th week of the 2007 season. Since a ranking purely by winning percentage favors younger programs and a ranking purely by total wins heavily favors older programs here are a couple of rankings that try to compromise a bit. The first is just a ranking of total games over 0.500 (total wins-total losses) in the modern era (1951-2007). Statistically this evens the field somewhat. A program that's been around for over half a century is just as likely to have a score of zero as a program that's been around for only one season. Obviously longevity is still a big factor (West Orange-Stark, having only played for 31 seasons, is the youngest program on the list) but then again, if you win consistently over a long period of time that should count for something. The second set also only includes records from the modern era (1951-2007). These are rankings by most average wins per season played, fewest average losses per season played, and average total games played per season. The first gives younger teams more of an advantage and it also gives teams who've done well in the playoffs an advantage because having 14, 15, or 16 wins in a season definitely helps your average. The second is skewed towards teams with consistently good regular seasons and discounts playoff success almost completely. Teams with consistently weak schedules and teams who are dominant forces in relatively weak districts will have an advantage here. Interestingly enough, even though one would think both of these methods would highly favor younger programs, almost half of the ranked programs have played the maximum of 57 seasons. The third is the average number of games played per season. This ranking focusses purely on consistent playoff success. Assuming the vast majority of teams play a 10-game regular season, an average of 11.0 would signify that on average, that team has made it to the bi-district round of the playoffs and lost every year. Obviously, teams that have racked up the playoff wins will rank highly, with teams advancing to a 5th and 6th playoff game having the advantage. Refugio is the king of the 'old schools' as it is the only program in the state that has averaged greater than 9 wins a year, less than 3 losses per year, and played more than 11.5 games per season on average over the entire 57 year span.

Region III is 30-6 vs. Region IV since 1982..... here's hoping the domination continues! State Champs are listed in BLUE State Finalists are listed in RED

The only that are public so far are the following: 5A Cutoff in 2006 1985+ Brownsville Hanna 3141 Donna 3028 Berkner 2805 San Benito 2673 Rio Grand City 2659 Harlingen High 2654 Edinburg 2605 Sharyland 2597 Brownsville Pace 2593 Hebron 2531 PSJA High 2528 Edinburg North 2495 Tyler Lee 2472 Weslaco 2414 PSJA North 2407 Economedes 2384 Lake Highlands 2331 Katy Seven Lakes 2325 Lufkin 2303 Los Fresnos 2300 PSJA Memorial 2291 Richardson 2278 McAllen 2261 Brownsville Lopez 2228 McAllen Rowe 2214 Harlington South 2209 John Tyler 2207 Brownville Rivera 2189 Pflugerville High 2181 Mesquite Horn 2166 Dickinson 2150 Fossil Ridge 2145 New Braunfels 2144 New Caney 2123 Copperas Cove 2096 McAllen Memorial 2090 Mission 2070 Midlothian 2066 Granbury 2063 Pflugerville Connally 2062 Mansfield Timberview 2056 Seguin 2054 Richmond Foster 2050 Abilene Cooper 2048 Brownsville Porter 2034 Lamar Consolidated 2034 Boerne 2028 Keller Fossil Ridge 2025 Highland Park 2009 Longview 2005 The Colony 2003 Denton Guyer 1995 4A Cutoff in 2006 950-1984 Richardson Pearce 1975 Birdville 1956 Rockwall 1917 Waco Midway 1912 Saginaw 1904 Mission Memorial 1889 Texarkana 1852 Lancaster 1823 Denton Ryan 1822 Weslaco East 1822 Waco 1807 Boswell 1795 Waxahachie 1795 Rockwall Heath 1725 Roma 1724 Red Oak 1704 Marshall 1674 FW Western Hills 1670 Mesquite Poteet 1621 Edcouch-Elsa 1584 Waller 1580 Ennis 1526 Brenham 1481 Denton High 1478 Corsicana 1477 Pflugerville Hendrickson 1477 Aledo 1464 Mercedes 1414 FW Brewer 1405 Hallsville 1265 Whitehouse 1241 Waco University 1204 Lake Dallas 1129 Pharr Valley View 1122 Springtown 1102 Frisco Wakeland 1100 Sulphur Springs 1096 Lampasas 1085 Longview Pine Tree 1082 Kilgore 1080 Royce City 1079 Jacksonville 1039 Beeville 1035 Medina Valley 1029 Lindale 988 Henderson 986 Mabank 984 Burnet 958 or 975 Abilene Wylie 956 3A Cutoff in 2006 415-949 Taylor 948 Burkburnett 939 Paris 934.5 Fredricksburg 934 Kennedale 915 Athens 910 Brownwood 901 Hidalgo 883 Tyler Chapel Hill 880 Palestine 875 La Feria 859 Decatur 856 Brownsboro 822 Navasota 795 Carthage 794 Jasper 782 Carrolton Ranchview 777 Liberty Eylau 765 Princeton 765 Graham 760 Sanger 745 Gonzales 718 Liberty Hill 717 Gainesville 707 Crandall 702 Port Isabel 699 Gilmer 698 Pittsburg 685 Raymondville 664 Rio Hondo 642 Texarkana Pleasant Grove 614 Cleveland Tarkington 611 Vernon 603 Gladewater 568 or 595 Mexia 590 Rusk 570 Argyle 567 Canton 555 Atlanta 537 Rockdale 534 Huntington 529 Longview Spring Hill 525 Llano 515 Progreso 505 Venus 503 Glen Rose 497 Anna 491 Kemp 490 Lamesa 489 Diboll 485 Emory Rains 485 Midland Greenwood 479 Palestine Westwood 478 Celina 476 Mount Vernon 475 Lytle 473 Marion 470 Commerce 468 Hillsboro 461 Luling 446 New Boston 446 Tatum 444 Dalhart 443.5 Crockett 442 Clifton 438 Cameron 437 Eustace 432 Lyford 431 Geronimo Navarro 429 Pilot Point 428.5 Aubrey 428 Bowie 419 2A Cutoff in 2006 195-414 Godley 411 Early 406 Salado 397 Gladewater Sabine 391 White Oak 398.5 Comfort 388 Buna 387 Caddo Mills 387 Jefferson 385 Troy 383 Brady 382 Daingerfield 379 Newton 378 Woodville 368 Redwater 366 Clifton 359 Elkhart 358 Hooks 357 Queen City 344 Santa Rosa 342 Boyd 338.5 Comanche 338 Quitman 337 Malakoff 333 Palmer 327 Eastland 325 Grand Saline 322 Hughes Springs 315 Harmony 314 Gunter 310 Jacksboro 299 Paradise 299 Elysian Fields 296 New Diana 294 Arp 291.5 Wichita Falls City View 288 Lone Oak 282 Pewitt 279 Sonora 276 Scurry Rosser 272 Ore City 262 Coahoma 248 Linden-Kildare 247 Poth 246 Union Grove 240 Whitewright 240 Como-Pickton 231 Bogata Rivercrest 230 Valley View 223 Corsicana Mildred 221 Kerens 212.5 Central Heights 212 Chico 210 or 216 Harper 209 Crawford 208 or 189 Weimer 207 Groveton 203 Three Rivers 202 Olton 201 Canadian 198 Garrison 198 Stanton 198 Bracketville 197 Rice 197 Junction 196 Colmesneil 195 Timpson 195 Tolar 195 Yorktown 195 1A Cutoff in 2006 194 and under Big Sandy 194 Stamford 193 Waskam 192 Winters 192 Hawkins 190 Crawford 189 Joaquin 189 Albany 188 Shiner 188 Riesel 187 Blue Ridge 186.5 Ganado 186 Lovelady 186 Seymore 186 Simms Bowie 185 Maud 184 Stinnett West Texas 184 Malakoff Cross Roads 183.5 La Villa 183 Mart 184.5 New Deal 183 Goldthwaite 181 La Villa 177 Sunray 176 Mason 175 Stratford 173 Italy 172 Price Carlisle 171 Itasca 171 Thorndale 171 Alto 170 Quinlan Boles 170 Celeste 169 Cayuga 168 Seagraves 160 Beckville 149 Bremond 145 Maud 144 Santa Maria 144 Hale Center 143 Windthorst 142.5 Mount Enterprise 138.5 Dawson 134 Fruitvale 123 Cumby 122 Tenaha 117 Evant 112 Falls City 112 Claude 106 Savoy 97 Frost 88 (11 man) Covington 80 Oakwood 73.5 Apple Springs 69.5 Leverett's Chapel 54 Kings Acadamy 47

This includes the results of all games played thru 12/4/07 among the 35 active 11-man programs competing in the UIL in the 7 county area of Orange, Jefferson, Hardin, Liberty, Newton, Jasper and Chambers Counties. Dayton is in red to signify that their season is not yet over and their numbers will change.

I updated all the charts to include 2007.... 5A 4A 3A

We still potentially could face Wimberley.... the only one of 4 losses to 3A teams that hasn't been avenged 8)