team first

i first place team chossen when and where, so ask Boutte ;D

with hester on the mound, i have to go with vidor. Should be a great game though. I cant wait

Coaching is OVER-RATED.....Think about it...When is the last time one of your fav. coaches hit a free-throw , to tie things up. got a rebound and actually boxed somebody out, had a sweet no-look for an easy deuce, or actually stepped in and took a charge...Players baby and you have to hav em...If you don't you probablly, well______. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken ________. I'm headed to the AAU circuit to find a few players who can actually play both ends of the floor, who show up every day ready to play, who put in extra time by themselves, who can actually lead a team to a few W's , who realize that it's only AAU and there are no promises, and that the best thing right now is that they still have elgibility at the high school level and get to play for the school they have been geared to [play for ,for the last ten years.... And if the coach yells at them, by gosh it makes them play harder and does not make them pout and want mama...Because if you have to do alot of COACHING.....you might not have any players..BUT on the other hand if you do a little recruiting...well then it's not over-rated!!!

Hey you two hum-babers, get out there and say hey...batter, batter,batter, swing batter...I like that one, you guys have alot of time to think up some new ones too, it won't be until about the 5th inning until somone hits one, wait, it was foul, until you actually have to move....The key, SUNFLOWER SEEDS, AND LOTS OF THEM!!!!!!!

Bluedove, are you suggesting that because Jacovin did not play half of the season, it was the fault of the coach that he did not make the Mac D. All- American team??? If so, we need to make a thread about the responsibility of the individual toward his high schol team, and not put oneself in front of that, period.....This AAU is mostly about I before team, and I'm talking about players and coaches end up thinking that way. They have to be able to seperate the two, and if they don't, well you've seen the results !!!!

Maybe they did need some extra $$ to get to Austin...but usually there is a budget for each sport, including basketball...If the playoffs or state tourney is ultimately achieved, then the A.D. will then go to the supplemental budget to cover expenses..Sounds like here the A.D. did not do his job and therefore there was no supp. budget for the basketball program to use during the playoff run..poor planning, and possibly a little selfishness by someone, who in turn, used the $$$ themselves for another part of the athletic program...

i would go with Hicks.

Will agree on that short...David Green could coach...In P.A. the well is not as deep as it once was....the citizens don't see it , but it is what it is and sometimes it happens...kids do not get in the gym like they once did, and it shows...how about 2000 when t>J. beat Lincoln in the reg. finals...those kids are gone...and look what just happened to the talent that was just over there. Skill level plus a great attitude and work ehic go a long way!!!!

Wait fellas, you forgot a few things..Westbrook did have very good players when Ozen was not open, but....there is a big difference between playoff compettion in 4a vs that of 5a BASKETBALL....remember Ozen is not playing against the elite year in and out, maybe some years, but not every year..Those guys you named were good but as they say, "size matters" and obviously...It's tough to win the "big one" without that big first rounder.... And by the way, I would hate to see Lopez at Ozen too, since he is on track to go to the BROOK, heck challenge yourself and try to win one for the scholl you're supposed to be at...It's not to hard to get those Dist titles if all the elite players are at one place....

that was a great game between two solid teams. Harrington looked to be in midseason form.

dickie didnt your brother used to have the mentality? before central became a magnet also? before u lie like clemens did remember i already know the answer, of how he felt

here we go...One might say that H.J. is not an academy, but just a solid program built from little dribblers on up....When they get to H.S. they have tons of on court experience and as we know very good coaching at that level..not a magnet, all of the kids live within H.J. boundaries...did I hear academic magnet...medical magnet....really, there will not be a comment from me on that, I hope you were only kidding. The difference is simple, H.J. and the rest of their district play by the same rules, if they win nobody goes on board and says they are different, same with East Chambers, TRADITION.....Ozen wins first year in and year out, solid players with quality coaching...TRADITION WITH A TWIST....There is no getting around it...sorry!!!!

My oh my....Do not know Dickie V.....Do know coach B at Ozen..excellent coach! Someone said we should be happy that the kids at Ozen are having success, but we do not talk about the other sports! This is a basketball board first, and second I could care less about discussing the other sports. the bottom line is simple, if you go to Austin and hear the announcer talking about past teams success and you hear Ozen and Dallas Lincoln mentioned, the first thing that comes to mind is MAGNET. Teams who have an advantage....There is no denying that ..It's okay to admit it, it's not the kids or coaches fault, it's the fault of the UIL to allow it to happen and I will tell you why! UIL has a mission statement about fairness , sportsmanship etc... If I was a coach , I would have a hard time explaining to the players why the kid acroos the tracks can't come in and play for us!!!! What about all the other kids in that 4a district, are they not working hard? Are they not going through off-season. Rules are rules, but there is obviously a flaw in the system...because other sports do not dominate, still does not make it right. As a matter of fact, I do follow Ozen in the playoffs year after year, still got that little question in the back of my mind...What if the MAGNET did not exist????

so basically we agree, bisd is a joke

as for football and baseball, if u want to talk about that, then lets start a thread on the certain boards. I will be happy to post there also

where did u get stealing from? Where do u get 12-15 from? since most basketball programs have about 50 players throughout the program. All that was said was that the kids have no boundaries, they can go to any of the schools they want, do to the magnet title. But the bisd does not have to follow the uil rules of being a magnet school, since like u said they are not true magnet school. So simply put they are allowed to get sny athlete they want, and still stay 4a. You tell me how that is fair

since when does magnet programs not fall under uil rules?? but u are rt, not being a true magnet is how they get away with not being 5a. But they still are able to have the whole bisd kids go to what ever school they want. no one said the kids where stealing players from other programs. And if u think there are only 12-15 kids in a program, u are way off. kelly and heritage pull from all the public schools so there what is??? kelly and heritage dont participate in the uil so their rules are totaly different. They also dont participate agaist the other uil obeying teams

looks like the fullcourtpress is going to slow dickie down a little. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

if the school i rooted for got to choose from as many as ozen did, i would never be bragging about winning district ever year. Hell they are supposed to, they have an unfair advantage. I would only and i mean only brag if they won state. You know and i know dickie, that your brother used to complain about Ozen having an unfair advatage also, until central was named the future docors of america. Since they where named that, central now has a better 9th grade class than ozen. Dickie who is going to out coach who tom? remember u say if the favorite team wins, that the winning coach always out coached the losing coach.

Wow...did not realize BISD had no boundaries...with over 100,000 people in Bmt and only 13,000 in the LCM area, no wonder we could not get Ozen when we played them...we were building, but kept getting the same types of players, the ones from our area. Wonder if we got us a medical magnet going, and got some of those WOS kids in there.....It might help us in our athletic programs and we would have some more students headed toward medical school....I'm headed toward the Adm. Bldg right now to see the Suuuuup...I'll let you know what they say at a later time...Until then...off-season better be going gooooood !!!

What happened to Ozens rebounding???? No boxing out or what! Did'nt see the game just wondering..I'll be at the next one, I've seen Yates about 4 or 5 times this year and they do not box out well at all, but they have afaletes.....

"build it and the they will come' ..I love that movie..the only problem is that is what Duke and Carolina, Indiana, and UCLA should be saying...Most high schools in our grand state can build it and continue to play with the kids within their schools boundaries...and don't say the city of beaumont is Ozen boundaries, because if so, that 4a district would only have 7 teams in it....

there is no difference about what goes on at kelly than what goes on at Ozen. And Dickie you know dang well your brother would agree. Build it and they will come? What a school in bmt where anyone can attend, but yet they remain 4a

they lack ONE huge thing last night....A kid named DECARLOS FRANK! yea its a shame that LC is not able to have kids from anywhere go to school their. I still remember d franks playing his summer ball at central his 8th grade year. Would central still be in playoffs if D Franks was in school there??????:

Is YATES a magnet school....Or just a regular public school ????