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Ozen won district outright 10 plus years thats the standard carry on

CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL winning district I never thought I'd see the day lol congrats central

Who is #22 the kid is a baller best player on central team IMO

Is Conally pretty good?

Anybody want to give any insight on how this game went?

WOW people who post on here are hilarious good job ladies keep winning

Do you guys know anything about Kingwood park?

It really baffles me that you guys actually think that Nederland is good...I'm glad the playoff's are coming around so my point will be proven another year with a 2nd or 3rd round exit for y'all but i guess thats considered a good year at the BIG NED lol

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1371072" timestamp="1360265993"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108974.msg1371066#msg1371066 date=1360265639] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371059#msg1371059 date=1360265189] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108974.msg1371049#msg1371049 date=1360264663] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371026#msg1371026 date=1360262387] Dickie- is it true that one year Mr. English defeated Mr. Boutte more than once while coaching "just" Vidor? [/quote]I believe 3 times in one year! I'm sure there was an excuse for that as well... ::) [/quote]Was that in 98 or 03? [/quote][quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371059#msg1371059 date=1360265189] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108974.msg1371049#msg1371049 date=1360264663] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371026#msg1371026 date=1360262387] Dickie- is it true that one year Mr. English defeated Mr. Boutte more than once while coaching "just" Vidor? [/quote]I believe 3 times in one year! I'm sure there was an excuse for that as well... ::) [/quote]Was that in 98 or 03? [/quote]Not sure. Maybe a Vidor fan knows or AAW? I believe it may have been the year after Perk went to the NBA? If Ned had an NBA player on the team, I would expect us to go to state every year too. Not everyone has that luxury. [/quote] It doesnt matter what year it was! The point is that Boutte was the coach!!!  There are several coaches in the area who would of won state with that Ozen team.... [/quote]Ok how many time after that did coach English Bouttee? And I believe that same team went on to state that year sooooooo?

[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1371065" timestamp="1360265597"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371061#msg1371061 date=1360265268] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1371051#msg1371051 date=1360264798] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371044#msg1371044 date=1360264216] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1371041#msg1371041 date=1360264062] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371038#msg1371038 date=1360263712] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371009#msg1371009 date=1360260960] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Do you belive Ozen would be undefeated at this point if Boutte was still the coach? [/quote]I believe the answer to this question is obvious...in district absolutely when the players don't respect you as a coach then you won't be very successful its simple Ozen isn't losing because of the lack of talent their losing because of the lack of discipline being instilled in the program [/quote] Name another game changer on Ozen's roster other than Jordan Hunter. Yes the Panthers have some good hard working players but, one game changer! [/quote]Ummmm does Jacobi Jones ring a bell? [/quote] Lol... [/quote]Or you insinuating that Jacobi Jones isn't a baller on the yard? [/quote] I believe he is!! and i would have to second that.... [/quote]WOW!!!!!!

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1371066" timestamp="1360265639"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371059#msg1371059 date=1360265189] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108974.msg1371049#msg1371049 date=1360264663] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371026#msg1371026 date=1360262387] Dickie- is it true that one year Mr. English defeated Mr. Boutte more than once while coaching "just" Vidor? [/quote]I believe 3 times in one year! I'm sure there was an excuse for that as well... ::) [/quote]Was that in 98 or 03? [/quote][quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371059#msg1371059 date=1360265189] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108974.msg1371049#msg1371049 date=1360264663] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371026#msg1371026 date=1360262387] Dickie- is it true that one year Mr. English defeated Mr. Boutte more than once while coaching "just" Vidor? [/quote]I believe 3 times in one year! I'm sure there was an excuse for that as well... ::) [/quote]Was that in 98 or 03? [/quote]Not sure. Maybe a Vidor fan knows or AAW? I believe it may have been the year after Perk went to the NBA? If Ned had an NBA player on the team, I would expect us to go to state every year too. Not everyone has that luxury. [/quote]Ozen didn't have a NBA player in 07 and went to state with a team full of sophomores sooooooo?

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1371051" timestamp="1360264798"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371044#msg1371044 date=1360264216] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1371041#msg1371041 date=1360264062] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371038#msg1371038 date=1360263712] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371009#msg1371009 date=1360260960] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Do you belive Ozen would be undefeated at this point if Boutte was still the coach? [/quote]I believe the answer to this question is obvious...in district absolutely when the players don't respect you as a coach then you won't be very successful its simple Ozen isn't losing because of the lack of talent their losing because of the lack of discipline being instilled in the program [/quote] Name another game changer on Ozen's roster other than Jordan Hunter. Yes the Panthers have some good hard working players but, one game changer! [/quote]Ummmm does Jacobi Jones ring a bell? [/quote] Lol... [/quote]Or you insinuating that Jacobi Jones isn't a baller on the yard?

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1371049" timestamp="1360264663"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371026#msg1371026 date=1360262387] Dickie- is it true that one year Mr. English defeated Mr. Boutte more than once while coaching "just" Vidor? [/quote]I believe 3 times in one year! I'm sure there was an excuse for that as well... ::) [/quote]Was that in 98 or 03?

Its funny how everyone commenting against the things I'm saying aren't Ozen fans lol i know what it is you guys got tired of seeing us on top year in and year out. But yeah enjoy you guys time while it last because as soon as Ozen get rid of Saveat back to the top we go lol

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1371042" timestamp="1360264188"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371040#msg1371040 date=1360264025] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108974.msg1371037#msg1371037 date=1360263565] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Well according to you Ozen had a lot of failed seasons. I don't think Coach Boutte made it to Austin every year he coached at Ozen. And, I don't see how you have those views being a former Ozen football player, when you guys have only made it out of the second round of the playoffs twice in the schools history. [/quote]Of course Ozen isn't going to win state every year but that was the EXPECTATION yeoj now the expectation at Ozen is to win the district title :-\ that used to be a forgone conclusion...and its funny that you try and down talk ozen football team but when I was playing you used to be at all of our practices yeah i know who you are JOEY [/quote] Now that's funny! You have the wrong Joey. Cause anybody that knows me, knows that's some bullshit. Lol [/quote]Yeahhhhh ok Joey

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1371041" timestamp="1360264062"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371038#msg1371038 date=1360263712] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108974.msg1371009#msg1371009 date=1360260960] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Do you belive Ozen would be undefeated at this point if Boutte was still the coach? [/quote]I believe the answer to this question is obvious...in district absolutely when the players don't respect you as a coach then you won't be very successful its simple Ozen isn't losing because of the lack of talent their losing because of the lack of discipline being instilled in the program [/quote] Name another game changer on Ozen's roster other than Jordan Hunter. Yes the Panthers have some good hard working players but, one game changer! [/quote]Ummmm does Jacobi Jones ring a bell?

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1371037" timestamp="1360263565"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Well according to you Ozen had a lot of failed seasons. I don't think Coach Boutte made it to Austin every year he coached at Ozen. And, I don't see how you have those views being a former Ozen football player, when you guys have only made it out of the second round of the playoffs twice in the schools history. [/quote]Of course Ozen isn't going to win state every year but that was the EXPECTATION yeoj now the expectation at Ozen is to win the district title :-\ that used to be a forgone conclusion...and its funny that you try and down talk ozen football team but when I was playing you used to be at all of our practices yeah i know who you are JOEY

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1371009" timestamp="1360260960"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1371007#msg1371007 date=1360260752] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108974.msg1370913#msg1370913 date=1360244401] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood [/quote] Do you belive Ozen would be undefeated at this point if Boutte was still the coach? [/quote]I believe the answer to this question is obvious...in district absolutely when the players don't respect you as a coach then you won't be very successful its simple Ozen isn't losing because of the lack of talent their losing because of the lack of discipline being instilled in the program

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1370913" timestamp="1360244401"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108974.msg1370905#msg1370905 date=1360240831] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] You want some cheese with your whine  :'( :'( :'( [/quote] What the heck does signing D1 in football have to do with Ozen hoops?  You're losing credibility again.  Smh In the playoffs, a win is a win.  All teams are good.  I think a 4 typing playoff run ended by a loss to a Jones or a Yates would be the same as a 4 round push having beat a Jones or Yates in the second round.  Point being, it doesn't matter who you play, it's all about keep winning, which last years Ozen team did.  Don't let your hate for Saveat cause you to discredit those kid's accomplishments.  They did make it farther in the playoffs than Nederland AND Central with a subpar coach as you put it AND being a third place team... [/quote]I guess you missed my statement about me actually PLAYING FOR OZEN bball team and you said i barely knew about football and my rebuttal was I signed a D-1 scholarship to play FOOTBALL...I would like to hear your credentials in sports  :-\ as far as Ozen making it further than Nederland in the playoffs that is not considered an accomplishment to us Ozen fans who've watched the glory days at Ozen and the tradition that program was built upon...beating Nederland is supposed to be a sure thing when your playing for Ozen and it was until Saveat took over I don't see what you guys don't see here I don't dislike Saveat as a person he's just not fit for the job at Ozen and its been showing for 4 years now soulja your giving ozen credit for making it to regionals anything short of a state title appearance or championship is considered a failure at Ozen...but i see why you view that as an accomplishment since your a central fan you guys aren't used to a winning tradition on the hardwood

I see no one answered my question about the last area 4A team to make it to state haha you guys are delusional smh you guys really think nederland and central are state title contenders I bet they won't make it out the region....but don't think Ozen is either though they're subpar along with the rest of the teams in 20-4A

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1370893" timestamp="1360213680"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote] This has to be one of the more ignorant post I have ever read! Have you even seen West Brook and Central play this season? It's arguable that Ozen has the least talented roster of the three schools. And Dove this isn't a shot at your son cause he's a monster on the court. [/quote]I've seen central play this year and I wasn't impressed but you'll see what I mean in the playoffs

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1370882" timestamp="1360210885"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108974.msg1370879#msg1370879 date=1360209995] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote][quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote]So....there is one, maybe two teams in the region ahead of Central, yet they have no chance? Come on man! Apparently you put all of your stock in state polls. The #1 team in the state the last 2 years have NOT win the title. Two years ago, a team who finished /NS in their district won the region and made it to the state finals! Narrow minded you are! ;) [/quote]  Smh.  Pay NO attention to OF.  He knows NOTHING about hoops.  Heck, he barely knows about football.  It's just hard for him to swallow that Ozen isn't dominant in hoops anymore.  Boutee is gone, but some people love to live in the past.  Seveat isn't Boutee, but he isn't a bad coach.  You never addressed me when [b]I asked you to explain how Ozen made a deep run last year under Seveat.  I actually think he's a better coach than Centrals coach[/b]... [/quote]And i asked who did they actually play that was a threat in the playoffs? No one and when they did they lost but this years playoffs will prove my point I made Blue Dove a believer. How wouldn't I know about hoops when I played for Ozen and Signed a D-1 football scholarship out of high school?

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1370879" timestamp="1360209995"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote][quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=108974.msg1370869#msg1370869 date=1360205580] Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here? [/quote]So....there is one, maybe two teams in the region ahead of Central, yet they have no chance? Come on man! Apparently you put all of your stock in state polls. The #1 team in the state the last 2 years have NOT win the title. Two years ago, a team who finished /NS in their district won the region and made it to the state finals! Narrow minded you are! ;) [/quote]And when was the last time an area 4A team went to state hhmmmmm i'll wait

Ok i have to put my two cents in this thread...the thing you fans don't understand is that teams like nederland central etc isn't that good and Ozen is still heads above the rest they just don't have the coach to show it I'm willing to bet money that if Bouttee was to take over again next season Ozen would be back running 20-4A a problem I've always had with local area fans is that they seem to have tunnel vision when it comes to their teams and lose sight of being realistic...Do you guys honestly think Nederland has a chance to make it out of Region 3? Do you guys honestly think that any team in 20-4A is state championship contender? Heck no not even close and it will show in the playoffs...stop trying to say the reason Ozen isn't dominating is because the talent is spread all over Beaumont because it has always  been that way WB has had studs and Central has had STUD its just that when it came down to who had the better PROGRAM it wasn't even close Ozen isn't the same program because of the guy who took over the program its that simple and the proofs in the pudding...Think about it when was the last time Ozen won district outright? Under bouttee...Ozen first lost in history to central was under who? Saveat are you starting to see a trend here?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1370596" timestamp="1360163482"] I will ask you this.....Did Ozen have a "future NBA player in 2007 when they won the region, went to Austin, and made the state championship game? The answer is NO AND NOT EVEN CLOSE...NOT the same Ozen. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Good win, but we are not seeing the same program that was built to be dominant. [/quote]Exactly Dickie V people have no clue on the tradition of Ozen basketball you have to have been in the program to understand that things ain't been the same since Saveat took over and its time for a new coach