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Vidor was horribly tonight. Our point guard thought he was the only one on the court, our big man tried to take on five players in the paint all night long and fail, Williamson looked like he forgot where the basket is, and the Head Coach is clueless. The team lacks confidence, they lack an identity and they lack the basic basketball knowledge needed to win games against good teams.

Vidor 0 brenham 5. Vidor was slow and unfocus, brenham brought their A game.

Can’t get any bigger than this. Vidor vs. Brenham today 3pm at png stadium. Vidor is the underdog and Brenham the overwhelming favorite but look for the pirates to come out focus and ready to give Brenham a run for their money. This Vidor squad is young,they don’t have any senior leadership or experience but they are loaded with very talented juniors with lots of varsity playing experience. Brenham better bring there A game because if they take the pirates lightly it could be a long 80 minutes for them. Key players to watch for the pirates, Brandon Clayton, Taylor and Tyler Reynolds and Zack Barton, all four were starters on a great pirates squad that reach the second round of the playoffs three seasons ago. Sophomore Jacob Cameron will be a force in the middle and hard to stop one on one. Pirates are led by Coach Matt Wedel who is one of the best soccer coach in south east Texas. Should be a great game today

Williamson needs to have a 20 + points tonight for Vidor to win. The last three district game he has struggled mightily scoring the ball.  He needs to stop being so passive offensively and shoot, especially when he is open behind the 3 point line. Vidor’s point guard Elan is a very good player, he is fast and can handle the ball but he needs to understand that his number one job is to find open players and get them the ball. If he finds himself open by all means he needs to shoot the ball but driving in the paint and jacking up shots will not get it done tonight. Collectively Vidor needs to play great defense, the point guard needs to pass more and shoot less and Williamson needs to shoot more and pass less.

Nederland # 9 in the region and PNG out of top 10. If I remember right PNG had a better season last year and made a deeper playoff run. PNG has lots of players back and they should be in the top 10 not nederland. So whoever put this list together needs to get out and watch some games for change for a change.

District 38-4A/3A Vidor central png Nederland HF lcm Ozen BC

vidor 3 livingston 0

Vidor 2 lumberton 0... Go pirates

Vidor vs LCM playoff game will be held thursday at 7:00 at the Pirate Stadium at Vidor High School. Come support your Vidor Pirates!

JV game is @ 5:00 and Varsity plays @ 7:00.

Another great answer Penny. I believe everyone here will agree Coach English is a "good coach". Is this how Nederland plan their games? English watches the team get off the bus, sizes up all their studs and then before tipoff draws up a game plan? Could explain a lot. I guess that's why we lose a lot of road games, coaches can't watch the other team get off the bus because they are already in the gym. Or maybe the other coaches are watching us get off the bus. I will be more than happy to answer your question about where I am going with this if you will explain to me why you said the team had problems with 1.Not playing team ball. 2.Not playing defense for each other. 3. Not hustleing after loose balls. 4.Not playing unselfishly. To the point it hurts the team. 5.You accused this group of not having the capasity to play for anyone else if they could not win here. 6. You were uncertain if they would improve. You must have had a very good reason for writing this, I am not buying your first answer. We all want the team to continue to improve and am a bit disappointed in our end of district record this past season. But I have never been as hard on this group of players as you have. And I will disagree with you on your idea that a couple of players that started when they were sophmores were suppose to be the "turn around" for the Nederland basketball program. What did we hire a new coach for if the kids were the ones in charge anyway? You are putting way to much pressure of the players and very little on the coaches. Please tell me you are not Coach English's mom.

Do you really want honest Bluedove? Okay try this for honest. Seeing one game does not make you an authority on Nederland basketball. And Penny, like it or not, Hammond is the best player on this team period. If Nederland get to the playoffs this next season it will be in large part because of Chris Hammond. I am not saying that Francis or Jordan or anyone else is any less important to this team. It will take a total team effort to make any playoff spot in this district. Chris is the only player from Nederland to get an invitation to play in the Gamble Classic. That alone speaks volumes. And Bluedove I do not have a relative on this team, most people think I am from Vidor. I know the Williamson's.

Bluedove- Did I suggest you mentioned a name? No. The truth of the matter is we do have players on this team that should shoot more than others; they are the team leaders. Hammond is that person now. After this next season I do agree with Razor that it will be Forney leading this team. He will be the go to guy team leader. The problem we have had with Chris is that his name has been spread all over this board, so by the time district arrived every team in this district knew that to disrupt the Nederland offense they had to stop Chris as much as possible. All of them tried and some were more successful than others. This only means that for this next season Chris is going to have to work harder because he knows going in he is going to get more of the same. Having a 25 point average going into district put an x on his back every game. The rest on the team is going to have to step up and take some of the pressure off by becoming more of an offensive threat. The other teams are spending way to much time and energy on one person. Coach English believes in this group, which has not made some of the parents of the upperclassmen very happy. They have watched their kids sit the bench in favor of this group. For what, a 7th and 6th place finish in the district race. This is why Topdog is upset and expects to see some results from this group. They have had chance after chance while their kids have sat. We want to see some results. And like many of you I think this will be the year Nederland makes their 1st playoff appearance in school history. Just like Coach English did for the Vidor group. Yes Razor Nederland was close to making the playoffs last year but so was everyone else. And with half the district going this next season we will all be close to going again. There will only be one or two games that will separate those that go and those that stay home. Every game will be important.

Good answer Penny. Bluedove, Nederland does not need a scapegoat or a whipping boy. We are not looking for excuses.

Penny-correct me if I am mistaken here. Just an obervation from an outsider. It seems as though the Nederland faithful were more than happy to get rid of Coach Williams because many believed he was the source of most of their basketball woes. English was suppose to be the solution for that problem. After 2 years of English and still not close to a playoff spot the focus seems to have turned from the coach to the players. I do not know because I am not there. But some of you who talk like you are close to the team use words like lazy, selfish, not playing with intensity, big egos among others, to describe your team. The blame game at Nederland seems to have turned away from the coach to the players. Am I wrong to make such an assumption?

ForeverAD what do you mean Coach English "better make the playoffs"? I thought Cooper was a good player for the Nederland team and will be missed and that Nederland will not be a better team with out him. Nothing at all personnel here because I do not have a kid playing on the team, just an observation. I am a Vidor fan and try to make the Nederland-Vidor games if I make any at all. As far as I know they have all been very close. But I do not think Nederland will beat Vidor this coming season. If they were going to beat them at all it would have been this past season. It did not happen. Nederland knows that the Vidor group can beat them and the Vidor group know they can beat Nederland so that is a very sticky thought to get out of your head. The only cure for Nederland is to beat Vidor, which is possible but not likely. I really liked Cooper. A lot of fun to watch.

Nederland will have as good a shot of making the playoffs as any. Half the district will be going next season. All they have to do is not come in too close to the bottom on the pile.

Topdog, can you handle the truth about Nederland? Unfortunately for Nederland and Coach English, your playoff hopes run right through the middle of Vidor. Win all of your other games plus beat or split with Vidor and you are in the playoffs. Nederland had a great preseason and a great start to open district play until they lost a close game to Vidor by two and then with a playoff spot on the line, lost to Vidor at the Dog pound by 10. Coach Robertson has out coached English every time they have met. In games with Vidor since English has been at Nederland, 0-4 against Vidor. Nederland is not returning all of their starters, depending on which line up you go with. Buddy Cooper who was a starter in a lot of games and had plenty of playing time will not be back. You do have a good group of players returning. But so does Vidor. Nederland will have their hands full trying to stop Chad Simms and Jared Williamson. So far I have not seen any indication that this is going to happen any time in the near future. So the bottom line Topdog is for Nederland to figure out how to beat Vidor and win the games they are suppose to. The same core players have been playing each other for the past two years and Nederland has not had much luck so far. The question I have for you Topdog is this. If you cannot beat Vidor, a team you do not believe will finish in the top 4 in this district, how are you planning on beating Central, Livingston and finishing in 2nd place. Please do not tell me that you plan on beating Vidor because your summer league team has done so well against them, because this is just not the case. Chris Hammond is a good player but... and Dionte Forney is only good if he...never mind How will Vidor do this next season? A lot better than last season, they came in fourth, while Nederland was 5th. You asked the question and put this discussion out there, so tell me please how you expect me to believe Nederland will come in 2nd when they cannot even beat Vidor? Saying it and doing it are two different things.

Vidor vs png varsity game got moved to 5:00 and Jv @ 7:00 if weather permits.

Vidor has 4 points, 1 for OT with Lumberton and 3 for beating Ozen.

Vidor vs Hj postponed due to the weather and field condition. The game will be played Monday 5:00 for girls and 7:00 for boys. come support the pirates.

vidor 3 pearland 0

Vidor 4 Memorial 1