Honest Abe

I don't think coach English will be satisfied going 1-1 this week. That's just not the mindset of Coach E. and the Nederland players.

Why go after the coach? I could see fans taunting other fans, tempers flare, and fights occur. Never heard of a fan going after a coach unless it's a personal matter. LaMarque has a huge problem that is out of control. You let it slide once, but when it happens again and again, it's a pattern which is scary. This community needs help. Hope we don't face them in the playoffs.  :-\

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="1160824" timestamp="1326665835"] Good research NB-Dawgs! [/quote] ;)

The BH gym is nice!

Thanks for answering my questions! Muchly appreciated!! Great show guys...

Come on Soulja, why don't you want to talk about Nederland? We're not rivals with y'all. No hate or bad blood (that I know about)!  ;D

[quote name="CATMAN" post="1161278" timestamp="1326756137"] Will BS & Evadale spite dist. games are do u thing one team will win both dist.games. First game is jan.24 @ Evadale. [/quote] There's that 'code talk' from Catman again!  ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1161270" timestamp="1326755011"] 45 minutes till show time!! Plenty of time to come out and join us. If not, get those questions and comments posted! [/quote] What will it take for Nederland to get noticed in state rankings? Will Nederland make it to the Regional Tourney again this year? Outside of Silsbee and HJ, who (locally) has the best chance (all classifications) to make it to Austin? Will the UIL ever crack down on [s]recruiting[/s] transferring?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1161169" timestamp="1326734320"] [b]Still no Nederland in 4A poll![/b] and why did Kountze drop out of top 25 in 2A poll after getting back in last week? [/quote] Good question. Last year at this time, Ned was 21-4 and ranked around #19, I believe? This year 20-5 and not ranked yet. Dallas Lincoln currently holds spot #19 with a 9-8 record. Don't have a clue who they lost against, but when has one game above .500 ever considered a top team? Of course it's nice to be ranked at this time of the season, but the year ending ranking is most important, and Nederland will get noticed along the way. Hopefully this makes the kids that much more hungry to prove they are as good as last year's team.

After a huge victory Friday night, Silsbee must face another tough opponent Tuesday against WO-S. Does Silsbee start the game with some jet lag after winning such a big game or do they take care of business as expected? WO-S started the season slow (and without some football players), but have drastically improved since. It took OT and a last second shot for PAM to beat WO-S recently, and it took a last second shot for Ned to beat WO-S a few weeks ago. Will Silsbee win this game on a last second shot too? I believe Silsbee still wins, but it should be a closer game than some expect, IMO.

I would not object to a :35 clock, but would prefer to see a :45 sec shot clock. Not a fan of a team holding the ball at mid court for 5 minutes like what happened in the OT game between Central and Memorial in the Bulldog Classic.

Kristian Smith is an exciting player, no doubt. But he's not the best player in the area. He's not even the best player in 20-4A, IMO. He may be the most explosive player in 20-4A, but not the best.

[b](-11) North Shore [/b]@ West Brook [b](-3) PAM[/b] @ Channelview Barbers Hill @ [b]Goose Creek Memorial (-6)[/b] Dayton @ [b]Crosby (-9)[/b] [b](-17) Central[/b] @ Lumberton Ozen @ [b]Nederland (-8)[/b] (-8) LCM @ [b]Livingston[/b] [b](-9) PNG[/b] @ Vidor [b](-14) Jasper[/b] @ Diboll [b](-23) Hamshire-Fannett[/b] @ Bridge City Orangefield @ [b]Hardin-Jefferson (-22)[/b] WOS @ [b]Silsbee (-8)[/b] (-10) Cleveland @ [b]Liberty[/b] (-23) Coldspring @ [b]Huffman[/b] Woden @ [b]Newton (-6)[/b] [b]Anahuac[/b] @ East Chambers (-27) Hardin @ [b]Buna (-3)[/b] [b](-4) Warren[/b] @ Deweyville Hull-Daisetta @ [b]Big Sandy (-18)[/b] Sabine Pass @ [b]Evadale (-17)[/b]

The last district game that Ned lost was on Feb 2, 2010 against LC-M. Ned finished by winning their last 4, then beat Ozen in double OT for the district playoff Title. So: 5 to finish that season, 14-0 last season, and 5-0 so far this season. Unless I missed something, then that makes 24 in a row going into the game Tuesday against Ozen. Let's keep it going NB-Dawgs!

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1160769" timestamp="1326661475"] NB Dawg help me out. What is Nederland's district win streak? I know its 20+ [/quote] 25 sounds like a good estimate, but NHS83LU87 probably knows for sure. Where U be, NHS83LU87?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1160700" timestamp="1326658247"] I'm going roll with Ozen by 3 [/quote] ::) ::) ::)

Where I gave Lumberton credit for playing hard on Friday, I think the game was a wakeup call for the Dawgs. This team thrives when they have to. Example: On Friday night, the game was tied, and Lumberton fans got excited and loud. After that, Ned went on a 16-1 run to finish the game. Not many Ned fans went to the game, and Lumberton fans were scarce in numbers as well, so the gym did not provide an exciting environment like it was on Tuesday. It seems like the bigger the game, the better they play. Which will come in handy during playoff time. Ozen will always be a big game for Nederland, so I expect the kids will respond and bring home the 'W'.

[quote name="Kountzer" post="1159941" timestamp="1326563134"] This game shows that your can't really depend on high school team rankings in polls. [/quote] That could be said for any ranking poll in sports, not just HS.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1159926" timestamp="1326561713"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=94283.msg1159921#msg1159921 date=1326561226] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=94283.msg1159915#msg1159915 date=1326560622] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=94283.msg1159909#msg1159909 date=1326559837] Picking on point spread is not easy. [/quote] Nope, but I like it though. Adds a little flavor to it. [/quote] Do you decide the point spread or is it done by committee? [/quote] Got them straight from Vegas baby!! [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D

The same discussion is going on over on the football forum regarding moving the Ned/PNG football game to Beaumont as well. Most people don't want it bc of the tradition of playing at each other's stadiums. The game usually draws around 10-15k each year, but I'm guessing 20k may attend if played on a neutral field on a Saturday. It was so bad this year that a (non-football) head coach from Nederland was unable to get into the game until after half time (game was at The Reservation).

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1159915" timestamp="1326560622"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=94283.msg1159909#msg1159909 date=1326559837] Picking on point spread is not easy. [/quote] Nope, but I like it though. Adds a little flavor to it. [/quote] Do you decide the point spread or is it done by committee?

Picking on point spread is not easy.

Going to be interesting to see who the top three will be between Nederland, Silsbee, and HJ. #2 beats #2 by 17, and #4 beats #1 (in the state) by 3. Will also be interesting to see if Silsbee will jump HJ in the state rankings. Jumping from 7 to 1 is unlikely, but Silsbee could be ranked #3 and HJ #4. It is also possible that HJ is still ranked above Silsbee (in the state poll). Not that it's right, but it's possible that HJ could be #3 and Silsbee #4. I know it's just a ranking, but it's fun to talk about. How do y'all see it playing out?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1159885" timestamp="1326557015"] A few other stats: FT % HJ          11/31    [b]36%[/b] ouch!  :o SIL          8/16    50% 3 Point % HJ          3/18      [b]17%[/b] SIL        7/20        [b]35%[/b] very impressive, especially after starting 1-10 to start the game. Rebounds HJ          40 SIL          33 Turnovers HJ              [b]29[/b] SIL            [b]24[/b] That's a lot of turnovers for both teams. [/quote]

[quote name="Tigersvoice" post="1159879" timestamp="1326555855"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=94174.msg1159790#msg1159790 date=1326520730] Tough loss for my Hawks.  Now that I have had time to eat, think about the game and cool down from such an exciting game I will give my thoughts. 1.  Both teams came out really tight. 2.  HJ opened it up in the 1st half with hitting the glass hard. 3.  Silsbee stayed in it with a couple of big 3s and defense in the 2nd. 4.  HJ went ICE COLD in the 3rd. 5.  Silsbee showed their quickness in the 3rd and got HOT from outside. 6.  HJ could not buy a FT and had 14 TO in the 3rd. 7.  HUGE 3 for Prudhomme at the end of the 3rd to cut it to 15. 8.  HJ came out hot in the 4th and played great defense. 9.  Silsbee started to fold in the 4th giving up a 15 pt lead. 10.  HJ tied it at the line believe it or not. 11.  HUGE 3 from 35 or so feet to win the game by Silsbee. 12.  BOTTOM LINE is that FT lost this game for the Hawks.  NOTHING ELSE!!!!! I will argue with anyone that HJ is still the better team, but it was the Tigers night.  It took HJ shooting 35% from the FT line for the Tigers to pull out a miracle 35 footer at the buzzer to win the game. Great game by both teams.  Congrats to the Tigers on the win.  We will see the Tigers on the 31st in Sour Lake for Round 2!!!! Keep your heads high HJ, you came from 18 down with 8:30 to go in the game to tie it.  You never gave up!!!!  This game will make you better!!!! [/quote] Nice assessment, Lazeek.  But on your point #9, I would prefer the language, "Hardin-Jefferson regained control of the game in the 4th with deliberate and intelligent play."  Now, doesn't that sound better than "Silsbee started to fold . . .?"  And on your point #12 - crying about free throws missed - isn't that part of any game even though this game had more attention than most?  Tell you what, next game we'll shoot your free throws and you shoot ours; that's a fair solution don't you think? ;D [/quote] Come on Tigersvoice, your better than that. He's not crying about the missed FTs. He's just stating a factual stat of the game. Now if he would have said that Silsbee cheated or played dirty, then maybe you could say he's crying. But when you look at the stats, FT shooting was a huge factor in the outcome of this game. Silsbee struggled though too. I'm sure Silsbee shoots better than 50% for the year. How many turnovers did each team have? Did I miss that stat?