Honest Abe

[quote name="LCMBIGFan" post="1159864" timestamp="1326553431"] So was Lumberton that much better or did Nederland have an off night.  LCM killed Lumberton but Lumberton beat Livingston and gave Nederland a scare. [/quote] Gotta give Lumberton some credit. They played PAM tight in a game earlier this year, they beat Livingston last week, and they played hard against Nederland last night. I think some teams don't take Lumberton seriously, but they have a competitive team, and they play hard. After beating Central Tuesday, I'm sure the Ned kids were not as focused as they should have been. I hope it was a wake up call so they will not take anyone lightly for the remainder of the season.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1159873" timestamp="1326554593"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=94174.msg1159859#msg1159859 date=1326553005] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=94174.msg1159853#msg1159853 date=1326552478] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=94174.msg1159850#msg1159850 date=1326552133] Two comments: 1.  Santa will have to rent out Ford Park- The government is taking most everything I earn in order to help those who cant (or more likely, won't) help themselves. 2.  I can certainly understand how "having been in the trenches" and "playing that tougher schedule" is what made that 38 footer fall at the buzzer. [/quote] The tougher schedule may not have been what made the 38 footer fall, but it did help Silsbee to be in position to win it from 38 feet. [/quote] Great theory that sounds good but game results do not validate.  If that "tougher schedule" theory is valid, then why did the "tougher schedule" allow them to squander an 18 point lead?  After all, that "tougher schedule" allegedly made them more knowledgeable and more capable of handling the pressures that go with a big game.  If what you say is correct, you are, in so many words, suggesting that if HJ had played Dallas Kimball and South Oak Cliff within the last 45 days, then they would have won the game and you are also ostensibly saying that Silsbee will win the game at HJ (doesn"t matter which court a game is played on when one team is "battle tested" and the other isn't) and I disagree. [/quote] Sorry game results definitely validate: 1.  In their closest game of the season, H-J hits 35% of their free throws; 2.  In a game where the team's last shot decides the outcome of the game, Silsbee hits their final shot, H-J does not; 3.  That 18 point lead came as they erased a [b]5 point deficit, which I'll have to check but is probably the lowest lead H-J had taken into the half this year.[/b] Look, there are some who are trying to say that H-J played a cupcake schedule, I am not one of them.  But Silsbee played a tougher schedule and it gave them an edge.  How much? Probably not much...but then again, in a game that was decided by just 3 points. they didn't need too much. [/quote] HJ led Nederland only by [s]4[/s] at half. Oops, it was 5. (27-22).

[quote name="bradyb" post="1159821" timestamp="1326544691"] He is top 5 but not #1..I believe Jordan Holmes is the best all around player in setx..then Christian from central  thenShawn [/quote] Shawn is definitely the best all-around player. It takes more than athletic ability to be the best. Holmes is an exciting player, but Prudhomme has that 'it' factor.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1159844" timestamp="1326551081"] Silsbee is battle -tested. Been in the trenches in several games this year. They know what it takes to  win and lose in big games this year. Looking at the score, I can only assume this is HJ's first true battle for the year. If I was a HJ fan, I would feel bad about the loss last night but feel better about the future. HJ will be ready for playoffs. As I said before, both teams are making the playoffs and fighting to reach Austin. In the end, we all will be pulling for both teams during their playoff run. On a lighter side, I think Nash and SANTA should pool their [s]monies[/s]...err resources and rent out Ford Park for the next game, though I think the Montagne would be more intimate for this game. Okay Nash and Santa, work your majic [/quote] You could be right BD3. HJ is has not had many close games this year, and I doubt they have trailed in very many either. However, that's not their fault that nobody (until now) has given them much of a game. They played about the same schedule as last year, and they lost games last year against teams they destroyed this year. As mentioned by another poster, they played Nederland, Central, Jacksonville, and KW Park. These are all good teams who HJ beat easily. I do think this game will prepare them (and Silsbee) for a deep playoff run. I'm still debating on what was more impressive: Silsbee's dominant 3rd quarter or HJ's ferocious comeback in the 4th? Proves that both teams are very explosive. Going to be an interesting road to the state tourney. Good luck to both teams.

Great comeback HJ. Great win Silsbee. Difference in the game: FTs: HJ 11-31 Silsbee 8-16

59-56 Silsbee. Made 1/2 court shot at the buzzer!

No way!!!

This game definitely living up to its hype!

He made 'em both. Lazeek just said he was 0-8 before those FTs. Bosha now makes two FTs. Tied at 56. 19.5 sec remain. HJ ball. HJ on a 27-2 run.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1159627" timestamp="1326511557"] Good win LCM.........looking forward to next Fri nite.!!! [/quote] If Ned plays like we did against Lumberton, LCM will win the game next Friday night.

HJ has to work on their FTs if they want to make a deep playoff run. 30% is not gonna cut it!

What a game!

Gaines prob has 10 steals in the 3rd Q alone!

Final: Ned 37 Lumberton 24 I understand it's hard to be 'up' for every game, but nobody is going to hand you the 'W' for simply showing up!  :-\

[quote name="Sloe" post="1159537" timestamp="1326508230"] 4th quarter and fouls will be the deciding factor in this one. [/quote] Could be. Prudhomme still have 2? If he fouls out, watch out.

A little breathing room. 3:30 remain Ned 33 Lum 24 :41 secs remain...same score.  ???

6:42 remaining Ned 27 Lumberton 23

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1159509" timestamp="1326507456"] Silsbee isnt a good 3 point shooting team [/quote] Then why have they shot 10 3s already?

Silsbee can't buy a three. Don't think they've made one yet.

Dawgs are still celebrating the Central victory when they should be focused on the current game. They better wake up!!

[b]West Brook[/b] @ Baytown Sterling (-2) PAM @ [b]North Shore (-9)[/b] (-6) Galena Park @ [b]Barbers Hill[/b] (-2) North Forest @ [b]Dayton[/b] Livingston @ [b]Ozen (-7)[/b] [b](-21) Nederland[/b] @ Lumberton PNG @ [b]LCM (-5)[/b] Vidor @ [b]Central (-25)[/b] [b](-3) Jasper[/b] @ Center Kirbyville @ [b]Huntington (-16)[/b] Bridge City @ [b]WOS (-24)[/b] [b](-8) Hardin-Jefferson[/b] @ Silsbee Orangefield @ [b]Hamshire-Fannett (-5)[/b] [b]Huffman[/b] @ Cleveland (-10) Liberty @ [b]Splendora (-6)[/b] [b]Newton[/b] @ Central Heights (-5) [b]Anahuac[/b] @ Buna (-16) [b](-12) Big Sandy[/b] @ West Hardin [b](-14) Evadale[/b] @ Hull-Daisetta [b](-19) Goodrich [/b]@ Spurger

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1158425" timestamp="1326375119"] I got a call last night from the Humble area last night. He happen to mention in the conversation Nederland beat Humble last year in playoffs. Would Nederland face an opponent in the same district as Humble this year? [/quote] The 1st round game for all 20-4A teams will be against a team from the district that consists of BH, Crosby, GCM, CEKing. Ned beat Humble last year in the 3rd round by 1 or 2 points. That is the same round that Kingwood Park beat Ozen to make it to the regional tourney. Will prob be the 3rd round again before our district plays theirs.

[quote name="GrayDog" post="1158354" timestamp="1326335943"] [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=93957.msg1157972#msg1157972 date=1326297135] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=93957.msg1157916#msg1157916 date=1326291220] This was actually a very good game untill the 4th.  The wheels came off and Nederland rose to the challenge and put us away when it counted.  We know we can play with Nederland.  We need to work on some things in the 4th period.  We've lost many games this year due to no execution in the 4th.  I still say that you need your best players (G. Mitchell and K. Smith) to be in the best positions to do damage on set plays.  Smith is a good 3 point shooter.  Get him an open 3 point look off an off the ball screen. If they play it too tight, he'll drive in and finish at the cup.    Get Mitchell a good look off a quick curl for a midrange jumper.  If they overpersue, he can also finish at the cup in traffic.  If we want to beat Nederland in the second meeting and make a nice playoff run, these are things that we need to work on for the next few weeks, IMO. [/quote] As a Nederland graduate from 20 or so years ago, it still shocks me what Brian English has done here.  I never thought I would see the day when Central would be talking about being able to compete with Nederland and hopefully beating them in the next game.  Huge reversal of fortune. [/quote] Agree, anyone know the district records of recent years? [/quote] For Nederland: 2011-12 4-0 2010-11 14-0 2009-10 12-2 2008-09 10-4

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1158314" timestamp="1326324986"] Just heard a rumor that Dickie Vitale was in attendance at the game. Why wasn't his picture taken with Aggie? [/quote] I spoke to him for a while. Nice guy.

[quote name="CATMAN" post="1158056" timestamp="1326303478"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=93957.msg1157984#msg1157984 date=1326298423] [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=93957.msg1157972#msg1157972 date=1326297135] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=93957.msg1157916#msg1157916 date=1326291220] This was actually a very good game untill the 4th.  The wheels came off and Nederland rose to the challenge and put us away when it counted.  We know we can play with Nederland.  We need to work on some things in the 4th period.  We've lost many games this year due to no execution in the 4th.  I still say that you need your best players (G. Mitchell and K. Smith) to be in the best positions to do damage on set plays.  Smith is a good 3 point shooter.  Get him an open 3 point look off an off the ball screen. If they play it too tight, he'll drive in and finish at the cup.    Get Mitchell a good look off a quick curl for a midrange jumper.  If they overpersue, he can also finish at the cup in traffic.  If we want to beat Nederland in the second meeting and make a nice playoff run, these are things that we need to work on for the next few weeks, IMO. [/quote] As a Nederland graduate from 20 or so years ago, it still shocks me what Brian English has done here.  I never thought I would see the day when Central would be talking about being able to compete with Nederland and hopefully beating them in the next game.  Huge reversal of fortune. [/quote]Yes.  True.  He did it at Vidor and he is doing it here.  I gave you guys heck the last 2 years stating that the players are good as you have the Cunningham, Forney, Smith 3 headed monster.  Now, this team is getting it done by better coaching since this team isn't near as talented as last year's team.  English have had my respect for several years now. [/quote] Soulja do u even no where coach English play college ball @ [/quote] I realize this is not relevant to this topic, but FYI, he played at Lee College in Baytown and at Wharton County JC. Then he tried out at aTm. He made it to the final cut of 4 or 5, and they only selected one person to make the team.