Honest Abe

Hey Soulja-Check out this short clip about him. Not sure who they are playing, but i don't think it matters. This kid/man will be a tough matchup for any team! [Hidden Content]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1139538" timestamp="1323029723"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92621.msg1139523#msg1139523 date=1323028620] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=92621.msg1139502#msg1139502 date=1323026490] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92621.msg1139432#msg date=1323017529] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=92621.msg1139424#msg date=1323016932] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92621.msg1139413#msg date=1323015973] Dove-Didn't NS win this tourney last year? So one COULD conclude that Nederland beat the #1 seed to make it to the finals. Memorial was also in our bracket, but LCM sent them to the Loser's bracket. When the people made this schedule, they did not know PAM would be struggling this early on. And in case you didn't see the game (which i know you didn't), in the 3rd place game, Lufkin lead Kimball the entire game until the end of the 4th Q! So Lufkin, also a 5A team, may be better than you think. But then again, it doesn't help to speak logic to someone who is not logical! Good luck to your [s]Horns[/s], Panthers, or whoever the next team you choose to support. I've supported the [b]Nederland Bulldogs[/b] for all 44 years of my life! [/quote] I will say this about the Dallas Kimball/Lufkin game. That was not the Dalllas Kimball team that played the first two games of the tourney. They were just going through the motions against Lufkin for the first 3 quarters, never pressing one second of the game until the middle of the 4th. I believe it was because Royce Johnson, coach of Kimball, was still pissed about losing to North Shore. He never got off the bench during the game up until the 4th and they rotated players in and out much differently than in the previous two games. It was obvious they really didn't care about the game. What most folks don't know, Coach Johnson was threatening to quit the tourney (not play in 3rd place game) and never return to this tournament because he felt the officials (both on and off the court) were against his team. (I heard this first hand as I was back near the hospitality room where this conversation was taking place) Coach Johnson thought the foul calls were too one-sided and he questioned the bracket lay out. Needless to say, we probably won't see Dallas Kimball back at the YMBL. I think Ned's path to the finals became easier when both Central, PAM and Ozen lost in the first round. But, they took care of business and they did beat Hightower who had just come off beating down Central. ;) [/quote] I did notice they weren't pressing. I thought they were just mad they lost. Didn't kmow the coach was upset over the officials. Goes to tell u there is always another side to the story. According to the score, it sounded like Hightower handled Central fairly easily. Was Central ever in the game? In the preseason poll, i picked Central as being one of the top 2 schools in 20-4A, and i still believe they will finish 1st or 2nd. But Nederland played a great game and beat that same HT team. To discount their victory over HT would be ignorant IMO!  ;) [/quote]We were in the game.  We were actually up at the end of the first period.  We allpwed # 23 to get going by not holding him tigt after hit crossed halfcourt.  We'd guard him only when he was close to the three point line when obviously, this kid have range when he was hitting shots well past the NBA range.    After that, he was heated up and begin to take our players on one on one in the 4th... We NEVER brought a double team to take the ball out his hands or anything. Also, on offense, we never ran any plays to get K.Smith opened.  Everything he got, he had to earn it. Obviously, they know which player to watch.  We'll be fine, though.  I still think we'll have a good showing at the Nederland Tourney, though. [/quote] Not a lot U can do when they have that kind of range. HIghtower did the same against Ned and took English out of the game by having their tall, long kid cover English. What they didn't plan on was Lubera getting hot from 3 Land and scoring 18. Ur Jags have a solid team, for sure. I hear that The Village is pretty talented too, and that's who Central will face in the 2nd round. Look forward to watching that game and the Ned/Silsbee matchup (they both have to reach the semis for that to happen). [/quote]We still have to beat Memorial, though.  This Village team...  What type of team are they?  Tall and lanky, Much size, or a quick guard type team? [/quote] They have a huge 'kid'/man who is 6'9" and is ranked as the 13th best Center in the country. He has verbally committed to Maryland! They beat HCYA by 28 and Lamar Consolidated by 12. His name just happens to be Shaquille! Not sure what else they have, but Dogs1218 or BlueDove may know other kids they have on their team who they watched play this past summer.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1139502" timestamp="1323026490"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92621.msg1139432#msg date=1323017529] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=92621.msg1139424#msg date=1323016932] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92621.msg1139413#msg date=1323015973] Dove-Didn't NS win this tourney last year? So one COULD conclude that Nederland beat the #1 seed to make it to the finals. Memorial was also in our bracket, but LCM sent them to the Loser's bracket. When the people made this schedule, they did not know PAM would be struggling this early on. And in case you didn't see the game (which i know you didn't), in the 3rd place game, Lufkin lead Kimball the entire game until the end of the 4th Q! So Lufkin, also a 5A team, may be better than you think. But then again, it doesn't help to speak logic to someone who is not logical! Good luck to your [s]Horns[/s], Panthers, or whoever the next team you choose to support. I've supported the [b]Nederland Bulldogs[/b] for all 44 years of my life! [/quote] I will say this about the Dallas Kimball/Lufkin game. That was not the Dalllas Kimball team that played the first two games of the tourney. They were just going through the motions against Lufkin for the first 3 quarters, never pressing one second of the game until the middle of the 4th. I believe it was because Royce Johnson, coach of Kimball, was still pissed about losing to North Shore. He never got off the bench during the game up until the 4th and they rotated players in and out much differently than in the previous two games. It was obvious they really didn't care about the game. What most folks don't know, Coach Johnson was threatening to quit the tourney (not play in 3rd place game) and never return to this tournament because he felt the officials (both on and off the court) were against his team. (I heard this first hand as I was back near the hospitality room where this conversation was taking place) Coach Johnson thought the foul calls were too one-sided and he questioned the bracket lay out. Needless to say, we probably won't see Dallas Kimball back at the YMBL. I think Ned's path to the finals became easier when both Central, PAM and Ozen lost in the first round. But, they took care of business and they did beat Hightower who had just come off beating down Central. ;) [/quote] I did notice they weren't pressing. I thought they were just mad they lost. Didn't kmow the coach was upset over the officials. Goes to tell u there is always another side to the story. According to the score, it sounded like Hightower handled Central fairly easily. Was Central ever in the game? In the preseason poll, i picked Central as being one of the top 2 schools in 20-4A, and i still believe they will finish 1st or 2nd. But Nederland played a great game and beat that same HT team. To discount their victory over HT would be ignorant IMO!  ;) [/quote]We were in the game.  We were actually up at the end of the first period.  We allpwed # 23 to get going by not holding him tigt after hit crossed halfcourt.  We'd guard him only when he was close to the three point line when obviously, this kid have range when he was hitting shots well past the NBA range.    After that, he was heated up and begin to take our players on one on one in the 4th... We NEVER brought a double team to take the ball out his hands or anything. Also, on offense, we never ran any plays to get K.Smith opened.  Everything he got, he had to earn it. Obviously, they know which player to watch.  We'll be fine, though.  I still think we'll have a good showing at the Nederland Tourney, though. [/quote] Not a lot U can do when they have that kind of range. HIghtower did the same against Ned and took English out of the game by having their tall, long kid cover English. What they didn't plan on was Lubera getting hot from 3 Land and scoring 18. Ur Jags have a solid team, for sure. I hear that The Village is pretty talented too, and that's who Central will face in the 2nd round. Look forward to watching that game and the Ned/Silsbee matchup (they both have to reach the semis for that to happen).

[quote name="forum" post="1139438" timestamp="1323018260"] Nederland's win over FBH was impressive, yet they should have won. They were the better team. 23 did NOTHING to help his team. He was obviously the best player on the court, but didn't work to beat the box and 1. North Shore obviously did their homework. They stalled and pulled the ball out when possible and made Nederland guard them man to man. Nederland played extremely tough in the tournament, and adding 14 and 12 has made a huge impact. [/quote] Agree! 14 was playing football until last week, and 12 broke his hand the week before the season began. They are both good players.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1139424" timestamp="1323016932"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=92621.msg1139413#msg1139413 date=1323015973] Dove-Didn't NS win this tourney last year? So one COULD conclude that Nederland beat the #1 seed to make it to the finals. Memorial was also in our bracket, but LCM sent them to the Loser's bracket. When the people made this schedule, they did not know PAM would be struggling this early on. And in case you didn't see the game (which i know you didn't), in the 3rd place game, Lufkin lead Kimball the entire game until the end of the 4th Q! So Lufkin, also a 5A team, may be better than you think. But then again, it doesn't help to speak logic to someone who is not logical! Good luck to your [s]Horns[/s], Panthers, or whoever the next team you choose to support. I've supported the [b]Nederland Bulldogs[/b] for all 44 years of my life! [/quote] I will say this about the Dallas Kimball/Lufkin game. That was not the Dalllas Kimball team that played the first two games of the tourney. They were just going through the motions against Lufkin for the first 3 quarters, never pressing one second of the game until the middle of the 4th. I believe it was because Royce Johnson, coach of Kimball, was still pissed about losing to North Shore. He never got off the bench during the game up until the 4th and they rotated players in and out much differently than in the previous two games. It was obvious they really didn't care about the game. What most folks don't know, Coach Johnson was threatening to quit the tourney (not play in 3rd place game) and never return to this tournament because he felt the officials (both on and off the court) were against his team. (I heard this first hand as I was back near the hospitality room where this conversation was taking place) Coach Johnson thought the foul calls were too one-sided and he questioned the bracket lay out. Needless to say, we probably won't see Dallas Kimball back at the YMBL. I think Ned's path to the finals became easier when both Central, PAM and Ozen lost in the first round. But, they took care of business and they did beat Hightower who had just come off beating down Central. ;) [/quote] I did notice they weren't pressing. I thought they were just mad they lost. Didn't kmow the coach was upset over the officials. Goes to tell u there is always another side to the story. According to the score, it sounded like Hightower handled Central fairly easily. Was Central ever in the game? In the preseason poll, i picked Central as being one of the top 2 schools in 20-4A, and i still believe they will finish 1st or 2nd. But Nederland played a great game and beat that same HT team. To discount their victory over HT would be ignorant IMO!  ;)

Dove-Didn't NS win this tourney last year? So one COULD conclude that Nederland beat the #1 seed to make it to the finals. Memorial was also in our bracket, but LCM sent them to the Loser's bracket. When the people made this schedule, they did not know PAM would be struggling this early on. And in case you didn't see the game (which i know you didn't), in the 3rd place game, Lufkin lead Kimball the entire game until the end of the 4th Q! So Lufkin, also a 5A team, may be better than you think. But then again, it doesn't help to speak logic to someone who is not logical! Good luck to your [s]Horns[/s], Panthers, or whoever the next team you choose to support. I've supported the [b]Nederland Bulldogs[/b] for all 44 years of my life!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1139301" timestamp="1322976613"] So, the winner out of the Nederland/WO-S game play Westbrook? [/quote] Yep.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1139299" timestamp="1322976239"] I am a believer now!! I was pretty hard on Nederland after the HJ game but this is a different team now, playing much better basketball. They will in the mix for the 20-4A district title and maybe even the favorite. Had some mixed feelings about this game and who to really pull for. (of course I was very unbiased in my broadcast ;) ;D). Nederland was our local team but the coach for North Shore, David Green, well he and I go way back to when we played on the same Little League baseball team in Silsbee. David and I went to school together in Silsbee and are good friends. Always love seeing him do well. This game was played by two very well coached teams. It was a pleasure to broadcast. [/quote] The HJ game was not their best effort, but they have obviously worked on some things, bc they are playing like a completely different team. Didn't hear the broadcast since I watched it live, so i trust you there!  ;) Not sure why Dove is still hatin'?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1139286" timestamp="1322975472"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92621.msg1139282#msg1139282 date=1322975045] HCYA could make a statement. [/quote] Silsbee with another tough draw. Played 5A West Brook, 4A #2 Dallas Kimball and 4A #3 Dallas SOC in YMBL and now to start the Nederland tourney they get HCYA. [b]Some tough going for the Tigers[/b]. [/quote] I agree AAW. Not a favorable draw for Silsbee. I wonder how the YMBL determined who plays each other? Straight draw? Any seedings from previous years?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1139276" timestamp="1322974138"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92602.msg1139251#msg1139251 date=1322970701] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=92602.msg1139169#msg1139169 date=1322963625] Congrats Bulldogs. Remember, this team is young. There were 2 sophs and 3 juniors on the floor quite a bit. Great job!! [/quote]And? North Shore starting guards are sophmores. [/quote]What big team have they beaten? Hightower? Hightower is not the same team like last year that went to Austin. [/quote] Did U watch Ned play this weekend Dove? Why don't you stop hatin' and give those kids some credit? They deserve it!  >:(

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1139286" timestamp="1322975472"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=92621.msg1139282#msg1139282 date=1322975045] HCYA could make a statement. [/quote] Silsbee with another tough draw. Played 5A West Brook, 4A #2 Dallas Kimball and 4A #3 Dallas SOC in YMBL and now to start the Nederland tourney they get HCYA. Some tough going for the Tigers. [/quote] I believe they will take care of HCYA. They are good, but i believe the Tigers are better...

Great tournament Dawgs. Nothing to hang Ur head about. NS has a very good team. Every time y'all made a run, NS had an answer( sign of an great team, IMO). Get some rest and get prepared for the Bulldog Classic next weekend!! 8)

Ned with another 3 by Chad B. Cuts the lead to 7.

23-17 NS leads Both teams hot from 3 land.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1139058" timestamp="1322957152"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=92602.msg1139009#msg1139009 date=1322954476] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=92602.msg1139001#msg1139001 date=1322954268] Just making sure that Lamar game starts on time!! ;) ;)  Get those high school fans out of my reserved Lamar seats!!!! 8) 8) [/quote] They made an announcement here that they will not clear the Montagne out. Folks that are here for the championship game can stay over for the LU game. [/quote] That is great....bigger crowd!!!  but get out of my seats!!! :D :D [/quote] You can sit next to me Lazeek behind the Dawgs bench!

[quote name="Fastball" post="1138937" timestamp="1322951457"] I had Kimball winning the whole thing.  Congrates on 3rd [/quote] That's who i picked as well, since Nederland wasn't a choice on the poll...  ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1138796" timestamp="1322945900"] Tourney set up with the stronger teams knocking each other out. You want a local in the finals for ticket sales and concessions and just general public interest. [/quote] You're right, Ned beat a weak Hightower team who was at the 5A state tourney just a short 9 months ago, then beat Lufkin who is up by 9 at the half over Kimball.  ::)

Up by 3 with ball English fouled with :08 Makes 1 Final Nederland 52 Lufkin 48 Nederland will play at 6:00 in the Finals vs. North Shore!

51-44 :44

1:30 NB 50 LP 43

2:52 remaining Ned 47 LP 43

Double OT

Ned up 1, with :20 remaining. Rodgers at the FT line. Made one. 41-39 Ned

Overtime! Lubera banked in a 3 at the buzzer, but he got the shot off too late!

Ned 34 Lufkin 36 :41 secs English shooting 1-1 Made both. Tied with 15 secs