Honest Abe

With so many young teams in the area, we may see more unexpected close games such as last night in the Lumberton/PAM game.

As you know, Dove, Nederland is young. Starting line up is: Senior Jr Jr Jr Soph Bench players: 3 Seniors 4 Jrs 1 Soph Good observation on your part (for once)-ha!  ;) Seems to be a lot of young teams in the area.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1123176" timestamp="1321679235"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91812.msg1122952#msg1122952 date=1321674610] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=91812.msg1122928#msg1122928 date=1321674275] Good win for Silsbee [/quote] Why? Because PNG is a 4a team? [/quote] Personally, I think all wins are good. Why you being a hater? ;) [/quote] Not being a hater AAW. Just trying to get some conversation going!  :)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1123006" timestamp="1321675323"] I know, right?  Ozen took them down with ease when they played Tuesday.  Looks like the Memorial Basketball team needs it's players back from football more than we thought. [/quote] Do they have a lot of FB players who play BBall too?

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1122928" timestamp="1321674275"] Good win for Silsbee [/quote] Why? Because PNG is a 4a team?

[quote name="RaiderGirl92" post="1122820" timestamp="1321673189"] Is Lumberton better this year than years before? [/quote] They didn't look very good last weekend when they scrimmaged Nederland. It wasn't pretty, so i'm very surprised this game went to OT.

Score?

Really?  ???

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1122296" timestamp="1321662176"] Should be a good game! [/quote] Not so sure. I think PNG will be rebuilding this year.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1121844" timestamp="1321630289"] Man, you guys are no fun! ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Okay, fine. I will take your bait. I think that baytown sterling should be in the top 10. Ahead of westbrook.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1121809" timestamp="1321628481"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91668.msg1121301#msg1121301 date=1321571416] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=91668.msg1121254#msg1121254 date=1321567451] I just hope that yall keep telling us how weak our schedule is- it serves us well [/quote] Same here. Will be interesting Monday night regardless of who wins. HJ beats Nederland...well it's Nederland and they're still playing FB, come on man! If Nederland beats HJ, then some will say...it's a 3A team, come on man!  ::) Rather comical if you ask me!  ;) [/quote] Either way, the wrath of this forum will come down on the loser of this great event ;D [/quote] I would be disappointed if it were any different!  ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1121254" timestamp="1321567451"] I just hope that yall keep telling us how weak our schedule is- it serves us well [/quote] Same here. Will be interesting Monday night regardless of who wins. HJ beats Nederland...well it's Nederland and they're still playing FB, come on man! If Nederland beats HJ, then some will say...it's a 3A team, come on man!  ::) Rather comical if you ask me!  ;)

No dove. I'm just giving you a hard time.  ;D [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1121074" timestamp="1321552430"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91698.msg1121015#msg1121015 date=1321548856] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91698.msg1121004#msg1121004 date=1321548415] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=91698.msg1120708#msg1120708 date=1321501133] I think maybe he is referring to the couple of threads I posted that involved some Dallas and Houston area teams. I posted those because of the high interest of them across the state. Highly ranked teams facing off against each other to start the season. Just thought it would be interesting to post. [/quote] I agree. I'm so happy roundball is here, I don't care if its Wood[s]s[/s]ville basketball......hmmmm? Okay bad example.  :D [/quote] You know Dove, my mom (RIP Mom) always taught me that if i didn't have anything nice to say, just don't say it at all. Leave Woodville out of this. Pick on somebody your own size!  ;D [/quote]Hit a nerve somewhere [/quote]

Good luck with that. I think it has been shown that there are more than just two good players for Nederland this year. When your best two players struggle and you still win by 20 points, that pretty much sums it up. [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1121053" timestamp="1321551328"] [quote author=forum link=topic=91668.msg1121036#msg1121036 date=1321549647] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91668.msg1120834#msg1120834 date=1321535235] [quote author=diego cruz link=topic=91668.msg1120755#msg1120755 date=1321505441] coach E better get #21 under control.several wild drives to the basket from half court that resulted in  badly missed shots or a turn over,0 for 7 on 3's(definantly not an outside shooter) & crying to refs about a foul while the other team is scoring at the other end.#40,#11 & #35 are very good players,#10 has to show up to play for 4 quarters.subs came in & played hard.if #21 becomes a better TEAM player instead of trying to be allen iverson nederland will be a very solid team. [/quote] Play for 4Quarters? Not sure what game you were watching, but #10 brought the ball up the court the entire time he was in the game, and never threw the ball away. Without him bringing the ball up the court, we might lose that game on TOs and fast break points. Yes, he missed some shots that normally fall for him, but that happens. #21 is probably their best player, and i think he felt he had to do more than usual, and he tried to put everything on his shoulders. Yes, he did miss a lot of 3's, but apparently you haven't seen him or #10 play much. They both normally make a majority of their shots (wherever they are on the floor). Judging these guys by one game is not a fair assessment of their talents. [/quote] Agreed. 10 took care of the ball and pushed the floor that led to fast break points. He'll still have to get better against quicker and faster teams for Nederland to be successful. [/quote]Okay forum, you're saying way too much. We don't want too many Nederland fans knowing how they will get beaten [/quote]

[quote name="forum" post="1121036" timestamp="1321549647"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91668.msg1120834#msg1120834 date=1321535235] [quote author=diego cruz link=topic=91668.msg1120755#msg1120755 date=1321505441] coach E better get #21 under control.several wild drives to the basket from half court that resulted in  badly missed shots or a turn over,0 for 7 on 3's(definantly not an outside shooter) & crying to refs about a foul while the other team is scoring at the other end.#40,#11 & #35 are very good players,#10 has to show up to play for 4 quarters.subs came in & played hard.if #21 becomes a better TEAM player instead of trying to be allen iverson nederland will be a very solid team. [/quote] Play for 4Quarters? Not sure what game you were watching, but #10 brought the ball up the court the entire time he was in the game, and never threw the ball away. Without him bringing the ball up the court, we might lose that game on TOs and fast break points. Yes, he missed some shots that normally fall for him, but that happens. #21 is probably their best player, and i think he felt he had to do more than usual, and he tried to put everything on his shoulders. Yes, he did miss a lot of 3's, but apparently you haven't seen him or #10 play much. They both normally make a majority of their shots (wherever they are on the floor). Judging these guys by one game is not a fair assessment of their talents. [/quote] Agreed. 10 took care of the ball and pushed the floor that led to fast break points. He'll still have to get better against quicker and faster teams for Nederland to be successful. [/quote] Agree!!  :)

[quote name="forum" post="1121031" timestamp="1321549449"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91653.msg1121011#msg1121011 date=1321548687] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=91653.msg1120910#msg1120910 date=1321542686] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=91653.msg1120776#msg1120776 date=1321507746] I hope your joking Dove. [/quote]The St. Pius kids are good. But St. Pius is a football school for those who don't know. They are trying to build their basketball program. Again, the suburban kid is a catch word in reference to a mind set.  I use towards my kids as well. Those who want it (hood) and those who would rather play X-Box (suburban). Get it? :-\ Oh nevamind [/quote] They may be a Football school, i have no idea. Don't keep up with that. I do know that they had two players who graduated last year who went on to play college BBall, and this year's team has a D1 commit to San Diego, another who has the physical tools to dominate (#50), and another who is highly ranked in the Greater Houston area (#4). Isn't that what you look for Dove, Individual talent? Also have some promising Freshmen on JV (including Sheryl Swoops son). Nederland's JV just a much better 'team'. I like what AAW said on another thread about one magazine ranking 'teams' vs the other who emphasizes players and individualism. I know which one i'm going to listen to regardless if 'Da Magazine' said that Nederland will sweep through district again. I don't think that's going to happen, but I would certainly welcome it (again). That's why we play the games. [/quote] #50 did nothing, but looked great coming off the bus. #4 did a little more than nothing. English and Weisbrod are pretty good, but not great...yet. St. Pius's 2 were shut down by Nederland's defense which left English and Weisbrod matched up against those 2 in the 1-2-2 defense they played. [/quote] I agree. #50 was intimidating, but did nothing. That's why i said he has the physical tools to be good. My other point is that #4 is highly ranked amongst PGs in Houston, and he did nothing against Ned. The few times he penetrated the zone, he was met by two 6'5 kids down low. 'Da Magazine' had St.Pius ranked 26 in the Houston area in 5A, 4A, 3A, and Private schools. They have Ned at 27 in the greater Houston area. They have never seen Ned play, but they have seen English and Weisbrod play. I think they must rank 'teams' according to individual talent from players they watch over the summer in the AAU world?? BTW-Can someone please figure out a way to put this on the Ned/St. Pius thread?  8)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1121004" timestamp="1321548415"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=91698.msg1120708#msg1120708 date=1321501133] I think maybe he is referring to the couple of threads I posted that involved some Dallas and Houston area teams. I posted those because of the high interest of them across the state. Highly ranked teams facing off against each other to start the season. Just thought it would be interesting to post. [/quote] I agree. I'm so happy roundball is here, I don't care if its Wood[s]s[/s]ville basketball......hmmmm? Okay bad example.  :D [/quote] You know Dove, my mom (RIP Mom) always taught me that if i didn't have anything nice to say, just don't say it at all. Leave Woodville out of this. Pick on somebody your own size!  ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1120910" timestamp="1321542686"] [quote author=east texas bb link=topic=91653.msg1120776#msg1120776 date=1321507746] I hope your joking Dove. [/quote]The St. Pius kids are good. But St. Pius is a football school for those who don't know. They are trying to build their basketball program. Again, the suburban kid is a catch word in reference to a mind set.  I use towards my kids as well. Those who want it (hood) and those who would rather play X-Box (suburban). Get it? :-\ Oh nevamind [/quote] They may be a Football school, i have no idea. Don't keep up with that. I do know that they had two players who graduated last year who went on to play college BBall, and this year's team has a D1 commit to San Diego, another who has the physical tools to dominate (#50), and another who is highly ranked in the Greater Houston area (#4). Isn't that what you look for Dove, Individual talent? Also have some promising Freshmen on JV (including Sheryl Swoops son). Nederland's JV just a much better 'team'. I like what AAW said on another thread about one magazine ranking 'teams' vs the other who emphasizes players and individualism. I know which one i'm going to listen to regardless if 'Da Magazine' said that Nederland will sweep through district again. I don't think that's going to happen, but I would certainly welcome it (again). That's why we play the games.

[quote name="diego cruz" post="1120755" timestamp="1321505441"] coach E better get #21 under control.several wild drives to the basket from half court that resulted in  badly missed shots or a turn over,0 for 7 on 3's(definantly not an outside shooter) & crying to refs about a foul while the other team is scoring at the other end.#40,#11 & #35 are very good players,#10 has to show up to play for 4 quarters.subs came in & played hard.if #21 becomes a better TEAM player instead of trying to be allen iverson nederland will be a very solid team. [/quote] Play for 4Quarters? Not sure what game you were watching, but #10 brought the ball up the court the entire time he was in the game, and never threw the ball away. Without him bringing the ball up the court, we might lose that game on TOs and fast break points. Yes, he missed some shots that normally fall for him, but that happens. #21 is probably their best player, and i think he felt he had to do more than usual, and he tried to put everything on his shoulders. Yes, he did miss a lot of 3's, but apparently you haven't seen him or #10 play much. They both normally make a majority of their shots (wherever they are on the floor). Judging these guys by one game is not a fair assessment of their talents.

Kelly not a Beaumont school ??? It's not a BISD school, but last i checked, it's in Beaumont!  :-\

[quote name="vcbasketball15" post="1120592" timestamp="1321491211"] youre right about that, haha i work in woodville and just started getting on this forum again. [/quote] I was just messin' with you!  ;) I probably spend way more time on here than i should. It's addicting!

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1120194" timestamp="1321468833"] My point is the skill set has today isn't the one he had at Kelly! He's been out of high school 4 years! Played in over 90 college games. Pick up games vs Durant, TJ, DJ, James, Hamilton etc... You tend to get better not worst. [/quote] Oh! Yes, of course. Sorry Santa, i thought you were saying he is not good (right now). I agree! I would say he is a lot better today than he was 3-4 years ago, for sure!

[quote name="jabu84" post="1120585" timestamp="1321490938"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=91591.msg1119971#msg1119971 date=1321457762] [quote author=jabu84 link=topic=91591.msg1119929#msg1119929 date=1321455876] good game by both teams. 43 to 40 at the half. sterling went to a zone to control the pace. crosby repeats as 19 4a champs. [/quote] Don't think Baytown Sterling ends up at the bottom of the standings this year in their district. They have a lot back from last years young team. [/quote] won that game without their best player [/quote] What number is he? I watched them play a couple of games last year in the Bulldog Classic in Nederland. They had some athletes, but they were young and small.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1120587" timestamp="1321490998"] [quote author=vcbasketball15 link=topic=91699.msg1120582#msg1120582 date=1321490817] kountze looks young this year, im taking hj by 10 even though i havent seen them play yet. [b]who is this Prudhomme kid?[/b] sounds like hes getting alot of hype. how tall is he and what position does he play [/quote] Are you kidding me?? [/quote] Probably been living under a rock!  ;D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1120434" timestamp="1321479997"] [quote author=forum link=topic=91668.msg1120155#msg1120155 date=1321466470] HF/Vidor thread got hijacked by St. Pius/Ned talk. Copied and pasted from that thread. St. Pius was not very good. The point guard did a lot of juking, but never went anywhere. They had some big guys, but none of them could score. Nederland played a 1-2-2, but really squezed the middle since St. Pius put someone running from elbow to elbow. This left their wings open for 3's after one pass. Rarely did they attempt a 3, and didn't make the ones they attempted. St. Pius pressed Nederland, but Nederland was too quick and broke it every time. Ball went to the middle, and they ran the floor. Weisbrod's FG percentage MUST go up. [/quote] This guy is correct! So Nederland don't get too excited just yet. [/quote] Trust me, we are not too excited yet. It was a good win, but there is much work to be done. I have complete faith that Coach English will address the issues, and the team will play better against HJ on Monday night.  8)