Honest Abe

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1102203" timestamp="1320240241"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=90821.msg1102185#msg1102185 date=1320238461] The lists are trash.  Nederland #2 after all those seniors gone?  West Brook #2?  Memorial #3?  Wow is all I have to say. [/quote]And Central # 4 BEHIND Livingston????? what the heck###### ;D [/quote] Remember that Livingston was very young last year too. I don't think they lost any starting players to graduation last year either. Being a smaller 4A school, they also had a lot of FB players who missed part of the BB season last yr, so their record was not impressive for their overall season. I've never been a big fan of preseason polls either, I guess that's why we play the games...  8)

I guess Butler had a good run for a few years too? Oh no, wait, they are still very good. Same can be said about Boise St in FB. Nice run while it lasted. Oh wait, they are still good too. I'm all but certain the same was said about HJ when they started their run. Until you have a bad season or a losing team,  then I think the run hasn't 'ended'. Remember my signature below, "Just the beginning"!  ;D [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1102406" timestamp="1320252492"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=90486.msg1102386#msg1102386 date=1320251884] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1102366#msg1102366 date=1320250835] [quote author=RR8 link=topic=90486.msg1102306#msg1102306 date=1320246785] Curious why Bluedove has such a problem with Nederland? Should a Nederland basketball team beat Ozen very often? Probably not, but it sure is sweet when it happens. Especially now with two HF basketball transfers!!! [/quote] I'm always picking on teams I'm jealous of ;) BUT-TTTT! Nederland had a nice little run for awhile ;) [/quote] HAD?? [/quote] H A D!!!! [/quote]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1102185" timestamp="1320238461"] The lists are trash.  Nederland #2 after all those seniors gone?  West Brook #2?  Memorial #3?  Wow is all I have to say. [/quote] Hey Soulja-Have U seen Ned play this summer or in Houston this Fall? Remember their JV also won district last year, and their Freshman tied for district champs. They are young with fresh faces, I agree. But these kids can play some round ball, no doubt!

[quote name="belle-mere" post="1101311" timestamp="1320148740"] What about 3rd & 4th place teams who go further in the playoffs? A couple if years ago one of the Klein teams, went further than the district champs. Is that a fluke?  I don't know, but it was interesting. [/quote] It happens sometimes, but I believe it is more the exception than the rule.

I think it will be closer than some are predicting but Ozen pulls it out: Ozen 34 Lumberton 26

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1100491" timestamp="1320068360"] How many seniors did WO-S lose from last year team? What kind of size will they have this year? [/quote] They did not lose much. Maybe 1 or 2?? They were young last year.

[quote name="2% Milk" post="1099309" timestamp="1319927001"] I've seen Kelly play the village multiple times they are alright usually but not to great. [/quote] I've not seen them play myself, but they have two D-1 commits on this year's team. One kid, who is a 6'9"  SR verbally committed to Maryland, and another 6'8" JR to Pepperdine. Sounds like they are expected to be pretty good this year. Not many HS teams have that kind of size.

I was joking when I guessed that! And these guys are the Gold Standard on this topic? Look Dove, everyone has an opinion, I just find it hard to rely on a group in Austin to make a blanket statement on an entire state. Plus, who cares if 4Au is 'down' this year? How is that relevant to who wins? I think that's what we are currently interested in, no? If a kid is good enough to go to the next level, great. But why does it matter if a field of 100 or so schools is less talented (in one's opinion) than the year before? [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1098549" timestamp="1319863179"] YEP [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1098539#msg1098539 date=1319862819] Please excuse my ignorance, TRB is an acronym for Texas Round Ball?? [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1098340#msg1098340 date=1319858838] TRB in the Austin area for one. [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1097812#msg1097812 date=1319851189] Which analysts are u referring to? Just curious where u hear this? [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1097671#msg1097671 date=1319849086] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=90486.msg1097464#msg1097464 date=1319839545] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096989#msg1096989 date=1319813883] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096985#msg1096985 date=1319813622] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096943#msg1096943 date=1319811441] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096323#msg1096323 date=1319762779] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096294#msg1096294 date=1319761865] St. Pius?  Yeah they will be a good match/test for yall :D [/quote] Houston St. Pius X. They are ranked 15th in the preseason poll for (Big) Private Schools. They have two D1 commits. [/quote]Yeah I've seen their D1's.They gonna kill yall ;D ;) ::) [/quote] Don't think so Dove, but you keep on telling yourself that Nederland is no good.  ;) I'm sure you're not alone in your prediction(s) since Ned lost a lot of players to graduation. I understand outsiders thinking that, and these kids have a lot to prove with no starters returning. Unless you've seen them play (more than one summer game back in June), then you are in for a pleasant (or unpleasant) surprise!  ;D [/quote][b]And to think Honest, I may be in Nederland's grill for the next 4 years ;D[/b] [/quote] Will be a lot of fun!! We need some good trash talking opponents! [/quote]I saw where a couple of basketball analyst in Texas say 4-A is pretty weak this year. So I guess some good trash talking will help liven things up in this area. [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

Please excuse my ignorance, TRB is an acronym for Texas Round Ball?? [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1098340" timestamp="1319858838"] TRB in the Austin area for one. [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1097812#msg1097812 date=1319851189] Which analysts are u referring to? Just curious where u hear this? [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1097671#msg1097671 date=1319849086] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=90486.msg1097464#msg1097464 date=1319839545] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096989#msg1096989 date=1319813883] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096985#msg1096985 date=1319813622] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096943#msg1096943 date=1319811441] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096323#msg1096323 date=1319762779] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096294#msg1096294 date=1319761865] St. Pius?  Yeah they will be a good match/test for yall :D [/quote] Houston St. Pius X. They are ranked 15th in the preseason poll for (Big) Private Schools. They have two D1 commits. [/quote]Yeah I've seen their D1's.They gonna kill yall ;D ;) ::) [/quote] Don't think so Dove, but you keep on telling yourself that Nederland is no good.  ;) I'm sure you're not alone in your prediction(s) since Ned lost a lot of players to graduation. I understand outsiders thinking that, and these kids have a lot to prove with no starters returning. Unless you've seen them play (more than one summer game back in June), then you are in for a pleasant (or unpleasant) surprise!  ;D [/quote][b]And to think Honest, I may be in Nederland's grill for the next 4 years ;D[/b] [/quote] Will be a lot of fun!! We need some good trash talking opponents! [/quote]I saw where a couple of basketball analyst in Texas say 4-A is pretty weak this year. So I guess some good trash talking will help liven things up in this area. [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

Which analysts are u referring to? Just curious where u hear this? [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1097671" timestamp="1319849086"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=90486.msg1097464#msg1097464 date=1319839545] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096989#msg1096989 date=1319813883] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096985#msg1096985 date=1319813622] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096943#msg1096943 date=1319811441] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096323#msg1096323 date=1319762779] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096294#msg1096294 date=1319761865] St. Pius?  Yeah they will be a good match/test for yall :D [/quote] Houston St. Pius X. They are ranked 15th in the preseason poll for (Big) Private Schools. They have two D1 commits. [/quote]Yeah I've seen their D1's.They gonna kill yall ;D ;) ::) [/quote] Don't think so Dove, but you keep on telling yourself that Nederland is no good.  ;) I'm sure you're not alone in your prediction(s) since Ned lost a lot of players to graduation. I understand outsiders thinking that, and these kids have a lot to prove with no starters returning. Unless you've seen them play (more than one summer game back in June), then you are in for a pleasant (or unpleasant) surprise!  ;D [/quote][b]And to think Honest, I may be in Nederland's grill for the next 4 years ;D[/b] [/quote] Will be a lot of fun!! We need some good trash talking opponents! [/quote]I saw where a couple of basketball analyst in Texas say 4-A is pretty weak this year. So I guess some good trash talking will help liven things up in this area. [/quote]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1097434" timestamp="1319837927"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1097355#msg1097355 date=1319832548] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1097335#msg1097335 date=1319831224] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1097334#msg1097334 date=1319831122] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1097119#msg1097119 date=1319819396] I'll make sure I'm at at least two games this year and possibly more. But then again,[b] been looking at yall all summer.[/b][/quote] Then you know the truth about this team!  ;) [/quote]ah yeah! I sure do. Yall better recruit more players ;) [/quote] You must have forgotten about the 6'5" [b]PF[/b] transfer from Vegas. I know you haven't seen him play unless you were at Yates last month when Ned played in the Super 16 Extravaganza. [/quote]No, I don't think I've  seen him play. Ya know, to this day I really don't know what [b]point forward [/b] does: 1. dribble and create his own shots from the forward position? 2. or?????? [/quote] Power Forward.  ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1097335" timestamp="1319831224"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1097334#msg1097334 date=1319831122] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1097119#msg1097119 date=1319819396] I'll make sure I'm at at least two games this year and possibly more. But then again,[b] been looking at yall all summer.[/b][/quote] Then you know the truth about this team!  ;) [/quote]ah yeah! I sure do. Yall better recruit more players ;) [/quote] You must have forgotten about the 6'5" PF transfer from Vegas. I know you haven't seen him play unless you were at Yates last month when Ned played in the Super 16 Extravaganza.

Where's the love for HF? I know Dove's kids moved to Ozen, but they were still suppose to be a playoff team this year, I thought??

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1097119" timestamp="1319819396"] I'll make sure I'm at at least two games this year and possibly more. But then again,[b] been looking at yall all summer.[/b][/quote] Then you know the truth about this team!  ;)

I believe their JV will be there too. If memory serves me correctly, Nederland JV played Ozen JV in the finals last year?? [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1097313" timestamp="1319830336"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1097206#msg1097206 date=1319824293] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1097119#msg1097119 date=1319819396] I'll make sure I'm at at least two games this year and possibly more. But then again, been looking at yall all summer. [/quote] You should come to The Bulldog Classic the 2nd weekend of December. Lots of good local teams plus The Village and HYCA. [/quote]I was there last year. Very good teams participated. If the JV plays in that tournament, I'll be watching Ozen's JV compete. [/quote]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1097119" timestamp="1319819396"] I'll make sure I'm at at least two games this year and possibly more. But then again, been looking at yall all summer. [/quote] You should come to The Bulldog Classic the 2nd weekend of December. Lots of good local teams plus The Village and HYCA.

Oh Dove, U kill me! Just don't be surprised in March when the Dawgs are the last team standing in the playoffs (again) from District 20-4A! [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1097060" timestamp="1319816958"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1097050#msg1097050 date=1319816718] I wouldn't go that far just yet. He has to prove it 1st. He had a good Fresh year, no doubt. However, I've seen a few players over the past 5 years who had succes while they were underclassmen, then become content when they become Seniors. Gotta hope he keeps his 'team' mentality and not develop a 'me' mentality. If the Dawgs are going to be good, they have to play team ball. [quote author=stevenash link=topic=90486.msg1097009#msg1097009 date=1319814754] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=90486.msg1097001#msg1097001 date=1319814466] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096208#msg1096208 date=1319757301] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=90486.msg1096187#msg1096187 date=1319755969] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095828#msg1095828 date=1319732407] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1095790#msg1095790 date=1319729829] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095685#msg1095685 date=1319722385] Interesting, most pollsters know Nederland will be chasing from the rear this year ;) [/quote] Which pollsters are u referring to, 'The Dove Group'? [/quote]I'm just saying: Nederland is polled in 3rd spot on most polls. [b]Somebody must know something ;)[/b] [/quote] Yes, we know we have NO starters coming back. Young guns will step up this year and open up some eyes!! [/quote] No starters return, but Weisbrod and English played as much as the starters. Weisbrod started a few games last year, and English started about 10-12 games. Anyone who watched these kids play last season (and this summer) know that Nederland will be tough again this year to beat. Their 1st game will be a great measuring stick w/ST. Pius coming to town. Another good match up will be the Monday before Thanksgiving at HJ. [/quote]Ok.  That answered my question about English.  I  already know that Weisbrod will be a force. [/quote] I honestly believe that Weisbrod is likely to be the best post player in the area this year, regardless of classification [/quote] [/quote]I think the "da Dawgs"  ::) had a good run in a short period of time. Should have been fun while it lasted ;) [/quote]

I wouldn't go that far just yet. He has to prove it 1st. He had a good Fresh year, no doubt. However, I've seen a few players over the past 5 years who had succes while they were underclassmen, then become content when they become Seniors. Gotta hope he keeps his 'team' mentality and not develop a 'me' mentality. If the Dawgs are going to be good, they have to play team ball. [quote name="stevenash" post="1097009" timestamp="1319814754"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=90486.msg1097001#msg1097001 date=1319814466] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096208#msg1096208 date=1319757301] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=90486.msg1096187#msg1096187 date=1319755969] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095828#msg1095828 date=1319732407] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1095790#msg1095790 date=1319729829] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095685#msg1095685 date=1319722385] Interesting, most pollsters know Nederland will be chasing from the rear this year ;) [/quote] Which pollsters are u referring to, 'The Dove Group'? [/quote]I'm just saying: Nederland is polled in 3rd spot on most polls. [b]Somebody must know something ;)[/b] [/quote] Yes, we know we have NO starters coming back. Young guns will step up this year and open up some eyes!! [/quote] No starters return, but Weisbrod and English played as much as the starters. Weisbrod started a few games last year, and English started about 10-12 games. Anyone who watched these kids play last season (and this summer) know that Nederland will be tough again this year to beat. Their 1st game will be a great measuring stick w/ST. Pius coming to town. Another good match up will be the Monday before Thanksgiving at HJ. [/quote]Ok.  That answered my question about English.  I  already know that Weisbrod will be a force. [/quote] I honestly believe that Weisbrod is likely to be the best post player in the area this year, regardless of classification [/quote]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1096989" timestamp="1319813883"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096985#msg1096985 date=1319813622] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096943#msg1096943 date=1319811441] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096323#msg1096323 date=1319762779] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096294#msg1096294 date=1319761865] St. Pius?  Yeah they will be a good match/test for yall :D [/quote] Houston St. Pius X. They are ranked 15th in the preseason poll for (Big) Private Schools. They have two D1 commits. [/quote]Yeah I've seen their D1's.They gonna kill yall ;D ;) ::) [/quote] Don't think so Dove, but you keep on telling yourself that Nederland is no good.  ;) I'm sure you're not alone in your prediction(s) since Ned lost a lot of players to graduation. I understand outsiders thinking that, and these kids have a lot to prove with no starters returning. Unless you've seen them play (more than one summer game back in June), then you are in for a pleasant (or unpleasant) surprise!  ;D [/quote]And to think Honest, I may be in Nederland's grill for the next 4 years ;D [/quote] I'm sure Nash is jealous-ha!  ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1096943" timestamp="1319811441"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1096323#msg1096323 date=1319762779] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096294#msg1096294 date=1319761865] St. Pius?  Yeah they will be a good match/test for yall :D [/quote] Houston St. Pius X. They are ranked 15th in the preseason poll for (Big) Private Schools. They have two D1 commits. [/quote]Yeah I've seen their D1's.They gonna kill yall ;D ;) ::) [/quote] Don't think so Dove, but you keep on telling yourself that Nederland is no good.  ;) I'm sure you're not alone in your prediction(s) since Ned lost a lot of players to graduation. I understand outsiders thinking that, and these kids have a lot to prove with no starters returning. Unless you've seen them play (more than one summer game back in June), then you are in for a pleasant (or unpleasant) surprise!  ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1096310" timestamp="1319762379"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1096294#msg1096294 date=1319761865] St. Pius?  Yeah they will be a good match/test for yall :D [/quote] Am hearing they may mop the floor with HJ [/quote] When does HJ play Houston St. Pius X?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1096294" timestamp="1319761865"] St. Pius?  Yeah they will be a good match/test for yall :D [/quote] Houston St. Pius X. They are ranked 15th in the preseason poll for (Big) Private Schools. They have two D1 commits.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1096187" timestamp="1319755969"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095828#msg1095828 date=1319732407] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1095790#msg1095790 date=1319729829] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095685#msg1095685 date=1319722385] Interesting, most pollsters know Nederland will be chasing from the rear this year ;) [/quote] Which pollsters are u referring to, 'The Dove Group'? [/quote]I'm just saying: Nederland is polled in 3rd spot on most polls. [b]Somebody must know something ;)[/b] [/quote] Yes, we know we have NO starters coming back. Young guns will step up this year and open up some eyes!! [/quote] No starters return, but Weisbrod and English played as much as the starters. Weisbrod started a few games last year, and English started about 10-12 games. Anyone who watched these kids play last season (and this summer) know that Nederland will be tough again this year to beat. Their 1st game will be a great measuring stick w/ST. Pius coming to town. Another good match up will be the Monday before Thanksgiving at HJ.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1096001" timestamp="1319744065"] We used to beat Ozen all the time.  That is untill Perkins came on the scene.  We've lost to hem every time since then untill the 2009-2010 season.  We split the series.  We did it again in the 2010-2011 season, splitting the series.  This year, we're going for the season split. [/quote] Wow! Ask, and u shall receive from Soulja-appreciate the info! I wouldn't be surprised with a split between Central & Ozen as well.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1095947" timestamp="1319740176"] But I thought you just implied that Central couldn't/wouldn't beat the Panthers? [/quote] Anyone know the last time Central beat Ozen? Don't think they've beaten them very many times since they dropped to 4A. Maybe Soulja knows? I know he's done w/Jag FB for the year, so maybe he can do some research on this topic?