Honest Abe

I don't think being the 3rd best is what Coach E is striving to accomplish this season. A taste of the playoffs a few years ago may have been okay, but now they expect to win. Not in an arrogant way, but  in a way of confidence. This group of kids are not accustomed to losing. Since Ned added another big man this summer, they will be fighting for the district title again, not 3rd place.  ;) [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1095876" timestamp="1319736110"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1095864#msg1095864 date=1319735018] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095828#msg1095828 date=1319732407] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1095790#msg1095790 date=1319729829] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095685#msg1095685 date=1319722385] Interesting, most pollsters know Nederland will be chasing from the rear this year ;) [/quote] Which pollsters are u referring to, 'The Dove Group'? [/quote]I'm just saying: Nederland is polled in 3rd spot on most polls. Somebody must know something ;) [/quote] I'm just curious which other polls you are referring to? I haven't seen any polls. Of course that doesn't mean they don't exist. I know Nederland has looked good so far this Fall in the Houston tourneys which they played in. They beat Central this summer as well. All 3 of those teams (Ozen, Central, Nederland) could finish in any order 1st-3rd. [/quote]Does not matter Honest, 3 rd place and you still get a taste of playoffs. ;) [/quote]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1095828" timestamp="1319732407"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=90486.msg1095790#msg1095790 date=1319729829] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=90486.msg1095685#msg1095685 date=1319722385] Interesting, most pollsters know Nederland will be chasing from the rear this year ;) [/quote] Which pollsters are u referring to, 'The Dove Group'? [/quote]I'm just saying: Nederland is polled in 3rd spot on most polls. Somebody must know something ;) [/quote] I'm just curious which other polls you are referring to? I haven't seen any polls. Of course that doesn't mean they don't exist. I know Nederland has looked good so far this Fall in the Houston tourneys which they played in. They beat Central this summer as well. All 3 of those teams (Ozen, Central, Nederland) could finish in any order 1st-3rd.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1095685" timestamp="1319722385"] Interesting, most pollsters know Nederland will be chasing from the rear this year ;) [/quote] Which pollsters are u referring to, 'The Dove Group'?

For the reply section, in what order will the top 4 teams finish this year in district? 1. Ozen 2. Nederland 3. Central 4. Livingston

Which 3 teams make the playoffs this year in District 21-3A? Really more interested in which order you predict they will finish: 1. HJ 2. WOS 3. Silsbee

In his defense, if one does not realize it's a poll, then I can see where it is open to other teams outside of HJ and Silsbee. In my defense, I like to poke fun at Dove, so I mentioned Nederland. Sorry about that.  ;) Now that we have opened it up to other teams, I think Humble is the team to beat in our 4A region this year. They bring back 4 starters from last year's team which Nederland beat by 1pt in round 3 (I think it was only 1 pt.). Their 6' 8" post is LOOONG, and their guards are quick! [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1095076" timestamp="1319659421"] [quote author=#1 Manager link=topic=90444.msg1095051#msg1095051 date=1319658448] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=90444.msg1094889#msg1094889 date=1319652303] [quote author=#1 Manager link=topic=90444.msg1094880#msg1094880 date=1319651946] If I was to but money on any team winning state, it would have to be Jack Yates. I saw them @ the Super 16 Extraganza, and I saw their team when they went 34-0. They are at the same level of talent as the 34-0 team. [/quote] Funny, I don't see Yates or Nederland in the poll question listed above. As for who has the best chance of the two listed above in this thread, HJ has the better chance. [/quote] Wow, you just had to go throw Nederland in that comment!  Well unlike most people I have some reality and go outside of this area for TRUE basketball talent.    And AAW if u want my opinion on 3A schools, Mexia will win yalls region again, Best of Luck to HJ and Silsbee on a great year.  (last time I checked the tittle of this thread was "Who has the best chance to win state?" not "Does Silsbee or HJ have a chance at  winning State?" )  ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Did you bother to look at the poll that is listed at the top of the thread? The author of the thread posted the poll in asking who out of Silsbee and HJ had the best chance to win state. Never mentioned Yates or Nederland. No one asked who would actually win state. (yes I do know that other teams outside this area are better and have better chances) I think I have seen much more basketball than you have my friend. ;) [/quote]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1094889" timestamp="1319652303"] [quote author=#1 Manager link=topic=90444.msg1094880#msg1094880 date=1319651946] If I was to but money on any team winning state, it would have to be Jack Yates. I saw them @ the Super 16 Extraganza, and I saw their team when they went 34-0. They are at the same level of talent as the 34-0 team. [/quote] Funny, I don't see Yates or Nederland in the poll question listed above. As for who has the best chance of the two listed above in this thread, HJ has the better chance. [/quote] I agree. If I was forced to bet on one of these two teams, I would go with HJ. From what I hear, these teams are equally talented. I would give HJ the edge in coaching, which goes a long way in HS playoffs.

Nederland has the best chance to win state this year, don't u think Dove?  ;)

PAM Barber's Hill Baytown Lee Dayton Beaumont Central Nederland Livingston PNG Kirbyville Bridge City OF WOS Liberty Coldspting Newton Woodville Hardin Corr Camden San Augustine W. Hardin Lovelady Sabine Pass Beaumont Kelly TW Christian Evadale

Ozen will make it interesting for a while, but Ned pulls it out: Ozen 13 Nederland 31

[quote name="JesseJames" post="1091175" timestamp="1319319146"] How do you think that not taking a knee is classy? These are kids playing. Even if it's not yours. Part of the problem with people today is that they are very detatched from each other. They have no feelings for anyone but their self. How would you feel if it was your son? Come on people.... [/quote] U nailed it. We are disconnected as a society b/c of social networking, email, txt msg, etc. If everyone else does it, then it becomes a 'unwritten rule'. It's not like anyone is asking the opposing team to bring flowers to the injured player. Just drop a knee and respect the game and others.

PNG was 4A in the Fall FB season of 1988, not 5A. [quote name="badndn" post="1090978" timestamp="1319301823"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=90223.msg1090951#msg1090951 date=1319300423] [quote author=PNG Proud link=topic=90223.msg1090920#msg1090920 date=1319298932] After reading the ridiculous posts on the tail end of this thread, it's clear we now have a new leader in the "WHINER" division.  Congrats Bear fans!!! [/quote] And the award for most obnoxious fan's goes to those few in PN-G that make post like the above. I still have video of your 88 team that was 0-10. Every program has it's up's and down's with some more than others but I can't wait for PN-G to be knocked out of the playoffs. Your run will be short lived. [/quote] Um that 88 team went 1-9 in 5A thank you! ;D And 12-2 the next year in 4A. At least we'll have a run! That's like saying "I can't wait till the Prom Queen breaks up with you!" ;D All in good fun of course. I've got alot of good friends over there in Bear country and have the utmost respect for them as people. If my kids didn't go to PNG, LCM would be my next choice due to the quality of education they would recieve and the good people of those two communities. [/quote]

Has Ned JV lost a game this yr? [quote name="badndn" post="1089050" timestamp="1319206945"] [quote author=bulldogbacker link=topic=90148.msg1088943#msg1088943 date=1319195355] in Nederland Freshman B  7  Port Neches 8 Freshman A  32  Lumberton 20 Frosh A still undefeated at 8-0. 8) [/quote] I'm hearing alot of good things about the Dogs Freshman class. Combined with a strong group of Sophs many of whom are active participants on Varsity now, I see big things when they are Sr and Jr classes respectively. Will any of those Freshman Pups get indoctrinated as Dogs on Friday night this season? [/quote]

[quote name="badndn" post="1089339" timestamp="1319224850"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89875.msg1089329#msg1089329 date=1319224517] Bandkid, godogs27, and baddog - I'm trying to finalize seating arrangements for todays Tea at the MC Yacht Club. I have yet to hear from you regarding ur presence to the event. Please RSVP asap. [/quote] Have your people get in touch with my people and work out the details! I'll be counting my money until late this evening! [/quote] Sounds divine!

PNG and Vidor play next week, right? At PNG or Vidor?

Bandkid, godogs27, and baddog - I'm trying to finalize seating arrangements for todays Tea at the MC Yacht Club. I have yet to hear from you regarding ur presence to the event. Please RSVP asap.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1088597" timestamp="1319145583"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=88273.msg1088291#msg1088291 date=1319124341] [quote author=EZDawg link=topic=88273.msg1088279#msg1088279 date=1319123902] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=88273.msg1086587#msg1086587 date=1318905632] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=88273.msg1057525#msg1057525 date=1316111805] Nederland: YMBL Bulldog Classic (Nederland of course) Gulf Coast Classic (The Hill) [/quote] Bulldog Classic is the 2nd weekend in December. Dec. 8, 9, and 10 May be a stronger tourney than last year: Nederland PNG PA Memorial* Bmt Central Bmt WB WO-S Silsbee Baytown Sterling The Village* HYCA *Teams which did not participate in the tourney last year. They replaced Galveston Ball and Humble Life. Dates? [/quote] [/quote] Beaumont Central did not play in the Nederland tourney last year. [/quote]We've actually never played in the Nederland Tourney before. [/quote] Central has played in The Bulldog classic before. Maybe not in recent years, but they did in the late 80's/early 90's.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1088151" timestamp="1319115540"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=89953.msg1088123#msg1088123 date=1319112271] Dove- Are you serious?  Do you sometimes say things on this board that you don't really mean? [/quote]I say things on here totally opposite about what I mean and the other half I do mean. ;) [/quote] So you probably confuse yourself as well as the rest of us?

Anything is possible in Dove's world!  ;D ;D  ;D The Village or HYCA will prob be favored, imHo. [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1088385" timestamp="1319130838"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=88273.msg1088381#msg1088381 date=1319130495] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=88273.msg1088375#msg1088375 date=1319130046] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=88273.msg1088373#msg1088373 date=1319129842] Gonna be out of HCYA and [b]Wheatley[/b]. But I bet they will meet before the championship game [/quote] Wheatley?? How so? [/quote]They have several new recruits who have moved to my old neighborhood. Josh Gray (look him up) being one. No bench though [/quote] Impressive! I will really be impressed with Wheatley if they win the Nederland tourney when they are not even entered in that tourney. ;) ::) [/quote]

PAM CC B. Hill Crosby Dayton Nederland PNG Vidor Livingston Jasper WOS Silsbee OF Huffman Liberty Buna E. Chambers Newton Anahuac Deweyville San Augustine Evadale Chester Bmt Kelly Dickinson Pine Drive

If HJ's 'weak schedule has produced those outcomes, they just might know what they're doing. MOST coaches know what is best for their program, and every year (and every school) is unique. [quote name="stevenash" post="1086960" timestamp="1318959845"] Superb use of the English language and I have a feeling that the Bulldogs will capture the title again.  I tend not to get too concerned about what somebody else feels about the district we are in or who we played.  We are regularly criticized for our weak schedule but that weak schedule has not stopped us from getting to the regionals each of the last 5 years( and that includes two trips to Austin).  Based upon that result, I am getting more and more convinced ( ;D) that the coaching staff may actually know and be better qualified to handle the details than posters on this board. [/quote]

[quote name="stevenash" post="1087009" timestamp="1318963354"] And a weak state twice [/quote] Of course!  8)

The answer I expected from you! Ha!  ;D 8) [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1086984" timestamp="1318961367"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=89953.msg1086960#msg1086960 date=1318959845] Superb use of the English language and I have a feeling that the Bulldogs will capture the title again.  I tend not to get too concerned about what somebody else feels about the district we are in or who we played.  We are regularly criticized for our weak schedule but that weak schedule has not stopped us from getting to the regionals each of the last 5 years.  Based upon that result, I am getting more and more convinced ( ;D) that the coaching staff may actually know and be better qualified to handle the details than posters on this board. [/quote]Must be weak regionals ;D [/quote]

I'm sure everyone knows by now that all districts are weak unless it's a district which Dove's teams are a part of (Nash-Sorry for ending  my sentence with a preposition ;) ). 20-4A was weak last yr b/c HF was not in it. Now that he has a personal interest in the district, 20-4A is now elite (especially if Nederland doesn't win their 3rd district title in a row).  :o [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1086894" timestamp="1318954681"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=89953.msg1086887#msg1086887 date=1318954081] [quote author=CATMAN link=topic=89953.msg1086791#msg1086791 date=1318945023] [quote author=Rebel Yeller link=topic=89953.msg1086171#msg1086171 date=1318880464] Evadale's #17 ranking is a good place to start. The Rebels will return three starters from last years State Runner Up team in shooting guard, Devon Murphy; small forward, Shawn Totten and point guard, Brandon Bruce. The Rebels lost the big senior class in numbers and height, but a couple of other players from last years team can be looked on to fill those wholes. Post, Kyle Taylor got plenty of playing time last season and playoff experience as well. Bradien Burford also was brought up from the JV by coach Laurence Williams so there are five players (four of those are seniors) who bring plenty of experience and knowledge of the system into this season. There are some talented players that will make the move up from the JV squad too! [/quote] Will The Rebels Win There Dist. ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] I think it will be a 3 team race this yr between Hull, BS, and the Rebs. The Rebs will be trying to replace 3 all dist big guys and learing to play a different style of ball. I look of them to strugel in predist. just like in football, but by the time dist. rolls around they should be playing good ball. The key to this yr, as in all yrs, is to limit the turnovers, and get their shooting guard open looks. They are going to be smaller than they have been in 3 yrs, so they will have to relia on speed and good shooting. [/quote]And don't forget that weak district you're in  ;D :o [/quote]

Nederland is exactly where we want to be-under the radar...  8)