Honest Abe

[quote name="stevenash" post="1087009" timestamp="1318963354"] And a weak state twice [/quote] Of course!  8)

The answer I expected from you! Ha!  ;D 8) [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1086984" timestamp="1318961367"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=89953.msg1086960#msg1086960 date=1318959845] Superb use of the English language and I have a feeling that the Bulldogs will capture the title again.  I tend not to get too concerned about what somebody else feels about the district we are in or who we played.  We are regularly criticized for our weak schedule but that weak schedule has not stopped us from getting to the regionals each of the last 5 years.  Based upon that result, I am getting more and more convinced ( ;D) that the coaching staff may actually know and be better qualified to handle the details than posters on this board. [/quote]Must be weak regionals ;D [/quote]

I'm sure everyone knows by now that all districts are weak unless it's a district which Dove's teams are a part of (Nash-Sorry for ending  my sentence with a preposition ;) ). 20-4A was weak last yr b/c HF was not in it. Now that he has a personal interest in the district, 20-4A is now elite (especially if Nederland doesn't win their 3rd district title in a row).  :o [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1086894" timestamp="1318954681"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=89953.msg1086887#msg1086887 date=1318954081] [quote author=CATMAN link=topic=89953.msg1086791#msg1086791 date=1318945023] [quote author=Rebel Yeller link=topic=89953.msg1086171#msg1086171 date=1318880464] Evadale's #17 ranking is a good place to start. The Rebels will return three starters from last years State Runner Up team in shooting guard, Devon Murphy; small forward, Shawn Totten and point guard, Brandon Bruce. The Rebels lost the big senior class in numbers and height, but a couple of other players from last years team can be looked on to fill those wholes. Post, Kyle Taylor got plenty of playing time last season and playoff experience as well. Bradien Burford also was brought up from the JV by coach Laurence Williams so there are five players (four of those are seniors) who bring plenty of experience and knowledge of the system into this season. There are some talented players that will make the move up from the JV squad too! [/quote] Will The Rebels Win There Dist. ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] I think it will be a 3 team race this yr between Hull, BS, and the Rebs. The Rebs will be trying to replace 3 all dist big guys and learing to play a different style of ball. I look of them to strugel in predist. just like in football, but by the time dist. rolls around they should be playing good ball. The key to this yr, as in all yrs, is to limit the turnovers, and get their shooting guard open looks. They are going to be smaller than they have been in 3 yrs, so they will have to relia on speed and good shooting. [/quote]And don't forget that weak district you're in  ;D :o [/quote]

Nederland is exactly where we want to be-under the radar...  8)

Ok. Just makin' sure you know that I was not the person who made the initial comment. I know u said nothing about winning state, I was just trying to bring some perspective to the comments. I'm sure Matthews knows the limits and abilities of his team. If the passing game was a strength, i'm sure he would go to it. Since it's not, he's doing what most good coaches do by playing to the strength of his team, which is running the ball. [quote name="mytwocents" post="1084094" timestamp="1318704337"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89853.msg1084073#msg1084073 date=1318703454] No, not me. I did not say a word about Matthews. I merely commented on 1954's comment about Vidor getting beat in the playoffs. I am commenting from a neutral perspective. As I mentioned, they are likely to lose at some point since only one team comes out of the playoffs undefeated, right? I think they will win 2-3 playoff games, depending on their draw. I wish Vidor the best, but I don't see them winning the state title this year. [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=89853.msg1084050#msg1084050 date=1318701903] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89853.msg1083786#msg1083786 date=1318683928] Expect better from me? Look, I'm not a moderator. If you have an issue w/rinjt1954, then report the post to a moderator and let them decide if it is considering bashing. I'm just providing ONE view of this post. The post from 1954 does not personally attack coach Matthews in this post-imHo. [quote author=BWOOD link=topic=89853.msg1083768#msg1083768 date=1318682272] This is forum rule 18, or does this only apply to other coaches.  I would expect better from you! [b]18 ) The bashing of any particular coach, player, referee, etc will not be tolerated. This includes issues involving their personal lives, coaching/playing style or performance, past experiences, etc.[/b] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89853.msg1083741#msg1083741 date=1318679782] [quote author=BWOOD link=topic=89853.msg1083614#msg1083614 date=1318654150] [quote author=rinjt1954 link=topic=89853.msg1082961#msg1082961 date=1318642239] Jeff Matthews is going to get beat in the playoffs, because he don't want to pass. You can't win the big ones just running in this league. [/quote] Would someone please delete this mess.  It's uncalled for. [/quote] Every team except one loses in the playoffs each year. I don't see this comment as slanderous against another person, it's merely an opinion of what will possibly happen b/c Vidor rely's on the run so much.with that said, I have to agree. Not many one dimensional teams make it very far in the playoffs these days. [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] No you didn't insult mathews directly but you did insult his coaching/playing style. And that is against the rules. Plain and simple. And to all of yall saying you can't make it too far in the playoffs with a run heavy offense check your stats. Liberty Hill won two state championships back to back in 2006 and 2007 while running the Slot T offense. [/quote] [/quote] I never said we would win state either and my comment wasn't directly meant towards you Abe. It was meant towards everyone that is saying Vidor's Slot T offense isn't good enough for the playoffs. [/quote]

No, not me. I did not say a word about Matthews. I merely commented on 1954's comment about Vidor getting beat in the playoffs. I am commenting from a neutral perspective. As I mentioned, they are likely to lose at some point since only one team comes out of the playoffs undefeated, right? I think they will win 2-3 playoff games, depending on their draw. I wish Vidor the best, but I don't see them winning the state title this year. [quote name="mytwocents" post="1084050" timestamp="1318701903"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89853.msg1083786#msg1083786 date=1318683928] Expect better from me? Look, I'm not a moderator. If you have an issue w/rinjt1954, then report the post to a moderator and let them decide if it is considering bashing. I'm just providing ONE view of this post. The post from 1954 does not personally attack coach Matthews in this post-imHo. [quote author=BWOOD link=topic=89853.msg1083768#msg1083768 date=1318682272] This is forum rule 18, or does this only apply to other coaches.  I would expect better from you! [b]18 ) The bashing of any particular coach, player, referee, etc will not be tolerated. This includes issues involving their personal lives, coaching/playing style or performance, past experiences, etc.[/b] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89853.msg1083741#msg1083741 date=1318679782] [quote author=BWOOD link=topic=89853.msg1083614#msg1083614 date=1318654150] [quote author=rinjt1954 link=topic=89853.msg1082961#msg1082961 date=1318642239] Jeff Matthews is going to get beat in the playoffs, because he don't want to pass. You can't win the big ones just running in this league. [/quote] Would someone please delete this mess.  It's uncalled for. [/quote] Every team except one loses in the playoffs each year. I don't see this comment as slanderous against another person, it's merely an opinion of what will possibly happen b/c Vidor rely's on the run so much.with that said, I have to agree. Not many one dimensional teams make it very far in the playoffs these days. [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] No you didn't insult mathews directly but you did insult his coaching/playing style. And that is against the rules. Plain and simple. And to all of yall saying you can't make it too far in the playoffs with a run heavy offense check your stats. Liberty Hill won two state championships back to back in 2006 and 2007 while running the Slot T offense. [/quote]

Expect better from me? Look, I'm not a moderator. If you have an issue w/rinjt1954, then report the post to a moderator and let them decide if it is considering bashing. I'm just providing ONE view of this post. The post from 1954 does not personally attack coach Matthews in this post-imHo. [quote name="BWOOD" post="1083768" timestamp="1318682272"] This is forum rule 18, or does this only apply to other coaches.  I would expect better from you! [b]18 ) The bashing of any particular coach, player, referee, etc will not be tolerated. This includes issues involving their personal lives, coaching/playing style or performance, past experiences, etc.[/b] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89853.msg1083741#msg1083741 date=1318679782] [quote author=BWOOD link=topic=89853.msg1083614#msg1083614 date=1318654150] [quote author=rinjt1954 link=topic=89853.msg1082961#msg1082961 date=1318642239] Jeff Matthews is going to get beat in the playoffs, because he don't want to pass. You can't win the big ones just running in this league. [/quote] Would someone please delete this mess.  It's uncalled for. [/quote] Every team except one loses in the playoffs each year. I don't see this comment as slanderous against another person, it's merely an opinion of what will possibly happen b/c Vidor rely's on the run so much.with that said, I have to agree. Not many one dimensional teams make it very far in the playoffs these days. [/quote] [/quote]

[quote name="BWOOD" post="1083614" timestamp="1318654150"] [quote author=rinjt1954 link=topic=89853.msg1082961#msg1082961 date=1318642239] Jeff Matthews is going to get beat in the playoffs, because he don't want to pass. You can't win the big ones just running in this league. [/quote] Would someone please delete this mess.  It's uncalled for. [/quote] Every team except one loses in the playoffs each year. I don't see this comment as slanderous against another person, it's merely an opinion of what will possibly happen b/c Vidor rely's on the run so much.with that said, I have to agree. Not many one dimensional teams make it very far in the playoffs these days.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1081656" timestamp="1318537012"] I don't see LaMarque opting to stay in 4A. They will probably be sent west in that West Columbia, Sweeny district and be in Region IV. But, if those 6 HISD schools finally decide to move down to 3A (they have all opted to stay 4A with 3A numbers for the last 3 realignments) then I could see LaMarque joining them in a Region III district. [/quote] Are you referring to Yates as being one of those 3? Would love to see them drop for the sake of Nederland BBall! I'm sure Silsbee an HJ don't want to see that happen though. Wonder how that would affect their recruiting...I mean they're wonderful science program?  ::) and regardless of numbers, LaMarque is always scary in FB (not bad in B-Ball either)!

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[quote name="ballin4life" post="1079561" timestamp="1318296577"] PAM will be fine trust me.....NED always beat PAM this time of the year bunch of guys playing football.Northshore will be good but i like our chances  ;) [/quote] Were they playing football this summer too when Ned beat them?  ??? North Shore is a power house this year, right Dove?

Good to hear about them beating PAM decisively. Surprised that they lost to Sterling though-not sure if they even won a district game last year?? Not too concerned though. A young team who will find their way as the season progresses. Watch out Dove! Mark January 17th on your calendar.

Weights are a must IMO. Weights improve strength, power, explosiveness, and helps to prevent injuries. Too many b-ball coaches under emphasize their value. The only time I believe they are not of value is on game day. Definitely messes up your shot. Would love to see Nederland bulk up a bit and push other teams around (for a change).  :)

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[quote name="Trocket" post="1072108" timestamp="1317588475"] Livingston 48 Nederland 9 Ok, who's in line to be the #1 defense after Friday, Livingston will be out to prove a point!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/quote] Didn't u predict last week that PNG would beat Ned 42-21? I'm sure you'll redeem yourself with this prediction though!  ;)

[quote name="pngpurple4ever" post="1071571" timestamp="1317521383"] I predict after Livingston goes up 24-0 by halftime that Nederland's stands will be half empty. [/quote] Still upset about Friday? 24 by half? You may want to research a bit more. Ned allowed 21 pts against PNG (the most they've allowed all season, not to mention that last TD was during a prevent D). This Dawgs 'D' is the real deal, just like Livingston's 'O' is the real deal. Gonna be close just like every Ned game this year. Nederland 28 Livingston 27

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[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1069724" timestamp="1317407537"] I know it doesn't happen that way, Dove. It was a joke! Every time Ned (or MC Flight) plays in Houston, they always play 'weak opponents'-in your opinion. I find it comical, but not sure if everyone gets ur humor and Appreciates the entertainment you bring to this forum! [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89026.msg1069683#msg1069683 date=1317403489] I don't think it happens this way.They look at the schools in this area as out of towners trying to play basketball. So they gives us a break in pool play. ;) quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89026.msg1069621#msg1069621 date=1317398854] Of course! Every time Ned goes to Houston, coach E asks the tourney directors to take it easy on his team.  ;D [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89026.msg1069608#msg1069608 date=1317398198] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89026.msg1069581#msg1069581 date=1317396382] [quote author=no-look link=topic=89026.msg1069255#msg1069255 date=1317344922] Better bring their A game..... [/quote] They played this kind of talent all summer in Houston. They will do fine. They will use this kind of tourney to help them mesh together and get ready for the season. Gonna be a hard team to beat Dove!  ;) [/quote]i think you guys are coming into the tourney on an upside. St. Thomas & Kingwood in the past were more dominant but I feel Nederland was put into the weakest pool to give you guys a little hope to take back home ;D [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

I know it doesn't happen that way, Dove. It was a joke! Every time Ned (or MC Flight) plays in Houston, they always play 'weak opponents'-in your opinion. I find it comical, but not sure if everyone gets ur humor and entertainment! [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1069683" timestamp="1317403489"] I don't think it happens this way.They look at the schools in this area as out of towners trying to play basketball. So they gives us a break in pool play. ;) quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89026.msg1069621#msg1069621 date=1317398854] Of course! Every time Ned goes to Houston, coach E asks the tourney directors to take it easy on his team.  ;D [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89026.msg1069608#msg1069608 date=1317398198] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89026.msg1069581#msg1069581 date=1317396382] [quote author=no-look link=topic=89026.msg1069255#msg1069255 date=1317344922] Better bring their A game..... [/quote] They played this kind of talent all summer in Houston. They will do fine. They will use this kind of tourney to help them mesh together and get ready for the season. Gonna be a hard team to beat Dove!  ;) [/quote]i think you guys are coming into the tourney on an upside. St. Thomas & Kingwood in the past were more dominant but I feel Nederland was put into the weakest pool to give you guys a little hope to take back home ;D [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

Don't hold your breath! Dove is just trying to stir the pot and poke some fun. Don't take him too seriously. He's just trying to cover up his insecurities about being a Lib!  :o A fair assessment Nash? [quote name="5 on 5" post="1069678" timestamp="1317403204"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=89026.msg1069608#msg1069608 date=1317398198] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89026.msg1069581#msg1069581 date=1317396382] [quote author=no-look link=topic=89026.msg1069255#msg1069255 date=1317344922] Better bring their A game..... [/quote] They played this kind of talent all summer in Houston. They will do fine. They will use this kind of tourney to help them mesh together and get ready for the season. Gonna be a hard team to beat Dove!  ;) [/quote]i think you guys are coming into the tourney on an upside. St. Thomas & Kingwood in the past were more dominant but I feel Nederland was put into the weakest pool to give you guys a little hope to take back home ;D [/quote] Weakest pool?? I'm not so sure, wouldn't that be the pool with HF and Ozen ;D :o.......C'mon dove give the dogs a little credit will ya :D [/quote]

Of course! Every time Ned goes to Houston, coach E asks the tourney directors to take it easy on his team.  ;D [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1069608" timestamp="1317398198"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=89026.msg1069581#msg1069581 date=1317396382] [quote author=no-look link=topic=89026.msg1069255#msg1069255 date=1317344922] Better bring their A game..... [/quote] They played this kind of talent all summer in Houston. They will do fine. They will use this kind of tourney to help them mesh together and get ready for the season. Gonna be a hard team to beat Dove!  ;) [/quote]i think you guys are coming into the tourney on an upside. St. Thomas & Kingwood in the past were more dominant but I feel Nederland was put into the weakest pool to give you guys a little hope to take back home ;D [/quote]

We need more parents who have ur mentality! Good post! [quote name="pngfan1" post="1069580" timestamp="1317396012"] [quote author=Always Be Faithful link=topic=88772.msg1069532#msg1069532 date=1317392955] [quote author=akifan94 link=topic=88772.msg1069441#msg1069441 date=1317384504] [quote author=outanup link=topic=88772.msg1069422#msg1069422 date=1317378009] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=88772.msg1069325#msg1069325 date=1317349720] [quote author=akifan94 link=topic=88772.msg1069067#msg1069067 date=1317328924] [quote author=Ned11str8 link=topic=88772.msg1066434#msg1066434 date=1317031562] [quote author=td link=topic=88772.msg1066432#msg1066432 date=1317030915] This sounds like kids just being kids. I'm not sure why some people are making a big deal out of it. I for one am glad I didn't get caught doing all of the stupid things I did as a teen. Let them take their punishment and move on. [/quote] Amen td ! Amen  . They're children [/quote] Kids being kids would seem to apply when kids sit around someone's house and drank are at the local park. Being at a school event and drinking on campus is a whole other issue. [/quote] Be careful about throwing rocks at glass houses. [/quote]Well said Bigdog.... ;D ;D ;D [/quote] So you can confirm PN-G football players have been caught drinking at school organized functions on campus? If not there is no glass house. [/quote] There were several Indianette officers kicked off the squad for drinking at an [i]off campus [/i] school event when I was in high school, back in the day. If I remember correctly, they were in uniform. Does that count? Teenagers screw up, period - even teenagers from PN-G. Their brains are not fully formed, especially in the area of decision making... proven fact. As much as I like to give my Bulldog friends h*ell, to pretend that this issue is confined to their campus is ludicrous. Signed, proud Indian mom of 3 imperfect but still extremely awesome Indian boys. [move][b][color=purple]Scalp 'em Indians![/color][/b][/move] [/quote] Well , I was going to avoid this thread since I don't agree with news like this of a minor being aired publicly. But since it has kind of turned to underage drinking ( a subject I have strong feelings about) I will. And yes my post has nothing to do with the original title , I don't know any facts regarding that and don't want to know anything that is not my business. I believe a lot of regular PNG posters have stayed away from this  , yes some have took advantage to take a shot at our neighbors and it would be no different if it was the other way around. Good post by ALWAYS BE FAUTHFUL , yes it happens here. Too much, as a matter of fact. The shame is when I see it going on and adults are consenting and allowing it to happen at their home. All this just to make sure your child's social status is where you want it to be. Not a smart responsibility to take on. Most of the time nothing is hurt but sometimes a childs life is lost , unfortunately. And yet some are still willing to take that risk here as well as most other communities. OK , enough of my rant. I am looking forward to a great game tonight , hopefully we come out the winner. Go Indians!!! [/quote]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1069486" timestamp="1317389063"] [quote author=#1 Manager link=topic=89026.msg1069356#msg1069356 date=1317351616] [quote author=no-look link=topic=89026.msg1069295#msg1069295 date=1317348093] How many starters does Ned have coming back? [/quote] None, they had 5 seniors start last year. But they bring back 2 returners and a JV team that only lost 1 game last year [/quote]Weak JV ::) [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh! You mean that same 'weak' group who has won 90+ games since 7th grade and lost less than 5? Ya, I wouldn't worry about them either.  ::)

[quote name="no-look" post="1069255" timestamp="1317344922"] Better bring their A game..... [/quote] They played this kind of talent all summer in Houston. They will do fine. They will use this kind of tourney to help them mesh together and get ready for the season. Gonna be a hard team to beat Dove!  ;)

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