Honest Abe

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1030258" timestamp="1312214101"] Its okay! I know the truth. You guys are barely beating the teams the same 8th graders win over in Houston.  Houston Defenders Select and Houston Hoops (8th graders-going to 9th) beat these teams. ::) [/quote] Again Dove, U have NO clue what ur talking about! They've never played Houston Defenders Select or Houston Hoops or ANY 14U teams. ONE time they played a 15U team (3T), and they beat them by more than 20. Before U make another ignorant comment regarding the competition, maybe U should contact Terell Henderson and ask him about the teams they r playing. Remember, U have about 2 weeks to move your boys to Nederland.  ::)

Hahahahahahahaha!! Are U serious Dove?? Get a clue man. If U truley believe that, then name 'several'-heck, just name ONE- 8th grade teams who can come within 20 points of MC Flight. You know Dove, I use to actually think U knew a little bit about HS basketball. Lately, however, U have been proving me wrong in that department b/c you are just full of IT, and U clearly have nothing of value to add to this thread (or this forum) except hot air... [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1030224" timestamp="1312208613"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1030026#msg1030026 date=1312162076] How about YOU don't come on here and try to discredit these kids!  >:( There is not an 8th grade team in this country who could beat them, get real! If you don't have knowledge of these games/teams, maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself!!  Gees Dove, draw a line for urself and try not to cross it! [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1029908#msg1029908 date=1312139389] [quote author=NHS1990 link=topic=84422.msg1029857#msg1029857 date=1312128937] [quote author=mfd814 link=topic=84422.msg1029855#msg1029855 date=1312128362] He's right. Franchise 3T 15U is not very good.  And it's not jealousy.  It's great to see the kids putting work to get better. Beat who you should easily handle is fine. It's good competition.   [/quote The ONLY reason MC Flight even played Franchise 3T is b/c the other team in their division did not show up. Franchise 3T saw an opportunity to improve by playing against better competition. MC Flight also beat a talented 5A  Pearland team last night by 15 or so. I'm sure Dove will discredit them too.  ;) [/quote]I've seen MCFlight play. Good squad. But let me put it in another perspective. There are 8th grade teams I know who can beat MC Flight. I'm glad you guys are doinf what you are doing. BUT! Don't come on here thinking you are playing the top tier teams out of Houston. ;) [/quote] [/quote] No discredit. It is what it is. Yes, there are several 8th grade teams that can beat McFlight. [/quote]

Great News for Silsbee!

How about YOU don't come on here and try to discredit these kids!  >:( There is not an 8th grade team in this country who could beat them, get real! If you don't have knowledge of these games/teams, maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself!!  Gees Dove, draw a line for urself and try not to cross it! [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1029908" timestamp="1312139389"] [quote author=NHS1990 link=topic=84422.msg1029857#msg1029857 date=1312128937] [quote author=mfd814 link=topic=84422.msg1029855#msg1029855 date=1312128362] He's right. Franchise 3T 15U is not very good.  And it's not jealousy.  It's great to see the kids putting work to get better. Beat who you should easily handle is fine. It's good competition.  [/quote The ONLY reason MC Flight even played Franchise 3T is b/c the other team in their division did not show up. Franchise 3T saw an opportunity to improve by playing against better competition. MC Flight also beat a talented 5A  Pearland team last night by 15 or so. I'm sure Dove will discredit them too.  ;) [/quote]I've seen MCFlight play. Good squad. But let me put it in another perspective. There are 8th grade teams I know who can beat MC Flight. I'm glad you guys are doinf what you are doing. BUT! Don't come on here thinking you are playing the top tier teams out of Houston. ;) [/quote]

Thanks for the updates (s) NHS1990. Looking forward to another exciting season in Big Ned. Hey Dove-It's not too late to move your boys to Nederland. I'm sure they would excel under Coach English and his program. I have a rent house which is move-in ready! ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1029822" timestamp="1312115591"] Okay, maybe I didn't make myself very clear. When Franchize 3T were 8th graders (last year), our 7th graders beat them by 20. As 8th graders this year, our team can still beat (3T) them in 15u. It's good you're getting the work in but you're still not playing the top tier summer teams. Keep working! [/quote] Breaking News there Dove!! U must be a basketball genius.

Just ignore him NHS1990. He already admitted that he's jealous of other's success :-\ [quote name="NHS1990" post="1029725" timestamp="1312067631"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1029719#msg1029719 date=1312066666] [quote author=NHS1990 link=topic=84422.msg1029687#msg1029687 date=1312061722] [quote author=bulldog81 link=topic=84422.msg1029575#msg1029575 date=1312001836] [quote author=NHS1990 link=topic=84422.msg1029516#msg1029516 date=1311989122] MC Flight heading back to Houston tomorrow to play (at least) three games against more top talent from Houston's Select Teams. I'll update scores. Will be great exposure for them. [/quote] What tournament are they playing in? [/quote] I believe it's called Invitational 12? Lost by one (again) to Houston Franchize. Then beat Franchize 3T (their 15U team) by 18. Next game at 7:30 [/quote]My sons 7th grade team beat the same 14u (8th grade)Franchize 3T last year by 20+. The top Franchize teams are/were in the Adidas 64 Tourney on West Coast. I'm not giving yall any slack :P [/quote] I am very aware that their Top players were not present today. However, this was not a 14U team. This was their 15U team. Mostly incoming Sophomores. We were up by as many as 26 points at one time. Not a close game at all. Keep in mind that over 1/2 of MC Flight consists of incoming Juniors and Sophomores. Next game should be some better competition. [/quote]

Thanks for the insight!

Ya, I knew he has previous success, and I'm sure he's a great coach and asset to the team. The fact that he is not a US citizen really threw me off... I don't see their men's basketball team hiring Phil Jackson to be the coach for their National B-ball team. U know what I mean?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1029522" timestamp="1311989678"] [quote author=NHS1990 link=topic=84422.msg1029516#msg1029516 date=1311989122] MC Flight heading back to Houston tomorrow to play (at least) three games against more top talent from Houston's Select Teams. I'll update scores. Will be great exposure for them. [/quote]All the top Houston teams ARE NOT in Houston this week. ;) [/quote] Dove- Why are you always so quick to discredit Nederland's accomplishments? It's not like Nederland and HF have any bad blood between them. In fact, I don't know if Nederland has ever played HF in basketball??

Can someone please explain why the USA would hire a non-USA citizen to coach the men's USA soccer team? The new coach is named Jurgen Klinsmann (from Deutschland). He's probably a great coach, etc, etc. Just confused about a non-US citizen coaching our National Team??? Is this common in Soccer?

[quote name="TITAN POWER" post="1029058" timestamp="1311880151"] [quote author=VPirate link=topic=86016.msg1029049#msg1029049 date=1311879291] There is no QB controversy in Vidor, and they will not have a 2-QB system. There will be 1 starting QB and he will have the full support of the coaches, team and fans. [/quote] Great post.  Thats the problem with threads like this.  .  Its a competition not a  controversy. [/quote] I didn't say it was a controversy. I think it becomes a controversy IF a coach elects to PLAY two QB's. It USUALLY means that the coach doesn't have faith in either one. Speaking of a competition there's nothing like one- I love to watch two QB's battle it out. I think it only makes both players that much better when there is someone there to push the other. Some kids become complacent when they find out too early that the job is their's to lose.

Not a fan of the 2-QB system. I've not seen a lot of success when using this approach. The QB is the leader of the offense. Having 2 players share that role will reduce the effectiveness of leadership- which is essential for an offense to be effective-IMO.

[quote name="mfd814" post="1028217" timestamp="1311687427"] Nederland will have a good team for a few years. Great coach too.   Weren't most of the top high school AAU teams in either Orlando or Vegas this past weekend, playing in Nationals, Showcases or getting there for the Super 64? [/quote] Ya, but Nederland played in this tourney the week before this past weekend on a Wednesday/Thursday, (July 13th & 14th).

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1025697" timestamp="1310949366"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1025652#msg1025652 date=1310942400]   Franchize has several teams . Are you positive you were playing their top team? They do have developmental teams. [/quote] Trust me.. Their guys are ranked on ESPN for this coming up year Dont think its possible for a Mid County team to play that well against top playes? ;) ;D [/quote] After back-to-back district championships and a Regional appearance, still no respect. When will outsiders  just accept that Nederland now has one of the top programs in the area?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1025336" timestamp="1310842948"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=85719.msg1025319#msg1025319 date=1310840671] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=85719.msg1025272#msg1025272 date=1310831941] Final Silsbee      61 Nederland  30 [/quote] Since Nederland was playing in Houston all week, I presume this was their JV? [/quote] It was not listed as the JV, just Nederland. Other teams had their JV's listed (LCM JV & Ozen JV) [/quote] Either way, they were missing their best players.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1025272" timestamp="1310831941"] Final Silsbee      61 Nederland  30 [/quote] Since Nederland was playing in Houston all week, I presume this was their JV?

Dogs1218 or NHS1990- Who did they play against?

[quote name="NHS1990" post="1024518" timestamp="1310614242"] Got a nice peak at some young Dawgs today in Houston. Playing against the best select teams in Texas and beyond will continue making them better. Tons of College scouts and Ex NBA players in attendance. Their future looks bright! [/quote] Coach English exposing his kids to 'big-time' competition again this summer. Gotta love it! Preparing them for a trip to Austin! It's just a matter of time...

[quote name="stevenash" post="1024298" timestamp="1310578088"] [quote author=bobbymcgee link=topic=85685.msg1024297#msg1024297 date=1310577693] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=85685.msg1024290#msg1024290 date=1310575391] [quote author=bobbymcgee link=topic=85685.msg1024288#msg1024288 date=1310574838] LeBlanc would be a better choice than Brooks for the girls job. She has played college basketball at LSU and is from Port Arthur. To my knowledge Brooks has never coached girls before. [/quote] There are a lot of good coaches who didnt play college basketball.  If you understand the game and get along well with students, it shouldnt matter if the team is male or female.  If I understand things correctly, Hamshire Fannet just hired a girls coach for the boys team. [/quote]   There are plenty of instances where a "less than successful" program became a successful one with the right coach.  What I am suggesting to you is that Mr. Brooks is a very good coach and can handle a boys or girls job.  I have personal knowledge of a situation where a new coach (without prior head coaching experience) took a program from 2-26 to two consecutive district championships and a regional appearance in his first two years.  One year after that, the team played in the state final.  The school had an outstanding football reputation and was laughed at in basketball.   Yeah, at Hamshire-Fannett. The basketball Mecca of the world. [/quote] There are plenty of instances where a "less than successful" program became a successful one with the right coach.  What I am suggesting to you is that Mr. Brooks is a very good coach and can handle a boys or girls job.  I have personal knowledge of a situation where a new coach (without prior head coaching experience) took a program from 2-26 to two consecutive district championships and a regional appearance in his first two years.  One year after that, the team played in the state final.  The school had an outstanding football reputation and was laughed at in basketball.  [/quote] Sounds like the story of Nederland basketball. A joke for years. Just won back- to- back District Titles. Appearance at Regionals. Next step-State Tourney Baby!!!

Oh! Was it only 7-8 years ago? My bad, i'll correct my guestimation.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1023701" timestamp="1310356129"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=84422.msg1023696#msg1023696 date=1310354336] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1023695#msg1023695 date=1310354255] [quote author=aDIDBAdad link=topic=84422.msg1023619#msg1023619 date=1310328654] I try not to pay any attention to Dove and his Nederland comments. He is still upset that HF's best freshman, from last yr, transferred to a real BB program. He just needs to wise up and move the Little Doves. That move would get his 2 further in the playoffs than any HF team will go.  :D [/quote] :D We would have killed Nederland Saturday. The time has arrived. Horn power baby-yyyyy!! [/quote] Which Nederland? You cant be talking about the varsity.. [/quote]Oh yeah! The varsity. I know its going to be hard for yall to get use to it ;) [/quote] Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Thanks for the early morning laugh Dove!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1023601" timestamp="1310321781"] HF could have beaten the Nederland teams yesterday ;D [/quote] Not what I heard. Nederland won both games. One against a Beaumont team, the other against PAM! Nice try Dove. :-\

[quote name="texas2step4u" post="1023599" timestamp="1310321536"] Sterling is the guy. Just has to have board approval.  One returning starter and a total of 2 lettermen. One of those plays football, so he wont be practicing basketball for some time once football kicks off.  It will be a very young, small team.  In order for this years team to have any chance at a good record, the staff will have to find a way to motivate kids to work way harder to improve their skills and then learn to play as a team.  It wont be easy to do that in Vidor.  No community support for basketball. No Little Dribblers to help get the little kids learning fundamentals. Heck, Vidor doesnt even have a rec center or outdoor basketball court any longer.  Pretty sad, really. [/quote] That is very sad to hear. You think there is someone in Vidor who is passionate about kids and basketball. Implementing a Little Dribblers program is the 1st step to succes, but it will not happen overnight. Nederland began a LD program about 7-8 years ago (I believe?). It wasn't until a few years ago that their program became competitive. Without fundamentals, any team has a steep hill to climb. Sounds like it's gonna be a rough season for the Pirates.

[quote name="aDIDBAdad" post="1023414" timestamp="1310220861"] You are correct Dogs 1218. I should have clarified last yrs team will be the best English will ever coach in Nederland. After coach's 8th grader graduates he will be looking for something much bigger than Nederland and a district champion. Keeping it real, I just don't see a state appearance in the next 5 yrs for Ned. Unless we draw some fabulous transfers to go with the group we already have.    [/quote] Last years team may be the most ATHLETIC team which English will coach, but definitely NOT the best TEAM. I do agree that their maturity and Varsity experience will be their biggest obstacle, but they will be ready by seasons end to make a deep run in the playoffs. There will b inconsistency for the 1st 1/2 of the season, but they will be the best TEAM in the district by seasons end. They may not finish in 1st, but they will be the best team by the end of district. As far as English going on to bigger and better things after his youngest graduates, I believe Ur wrong there.He's invested way too much time to pack up and leave for more money, or a better chance to win a state championship. He's a Nederland guy who bleeds black and gold. Money doesn't motivate him. That's what makes him so special.