Honest Abe

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1022027" timestamp="1309608741"] That's it! Nederland will be on Dove's hit list along with HJ for the coming season. Its on! [/quote]   ;) ;) ;) ;)

Bring it Dove! [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1021962" timestamp="1309568368"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021945#msg1021945 date=1309562509] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021938#msg1021938 date=1309559492] Nederland ain't HJ [/quote] Not yet, but Ned is trending in that direction for sure! Ned would definitely run HF out of the gym  ;D [/quote] >:( Oh okay, Nederland better hope and pray HF doesn't get into the YMBL in the future. [/quote]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1021938" timestamp="1309559492"] Nederland ain't HJ [/quote] Not yet, but Ned is trending in that direction for sure! Ned would definitely run HF out of the gym  ;D

[quote name="ford15" post="1021933" timestamp="1309558845"] Don't worry Nederland fans. H-J lost alot and it was predicted by several that we would not go far last year or the year before or the year before, or................! ;D ;D ;) [/quote] Ya, that's what another HJ fan told me a few months ago. Y'all call it re-LOADING every yr instead of re-building...I like it!!

Have U seen the new kid play yet Nash or just speculating? [quote name="stevenash" post="1021877" timestamp="1309548511"] [quote author=Versey Ledbetter link=topic=84422.msg1021863#msg1021863 date=1309546843] [quote author=NHS1990 link=topic=84422.msg1021834#msg1021834 date=1309541323] I've seen the new big kid in action. He looks good, will be a great asset to the team, esp after losing so much size from last year. I don't think Nederland will miss a beat this season. [/quote] I hope you're right but I'll be very and pleasantly surprised if Nederland doesn't "miss a beat" next season. [/quote] My guess is the new big kid will be one of the top two or three posts in all classes in the area next year. [/quote]

Did some research, ur correct, Vidor made the playoffs 2 yrs in a row not three(my mistake). I really did not know the W-L record of Ozen and Central, so I was not attempting to be a smart-rear. I DO know, (and i'm sure English is well aware) of the talent at Central. It seems to me though that you think Nederland lacks talent b/c they lost so much from last yr. U seem to think they will be back to their losing ways to where they were before Fourney and Smith and Cunningham. I am just informing you that they have lots of talented kids, and Ned will be an elite team for years to come. [quote name="BMTJags" post="1021862" timestamp="1309546595"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021852#msg1021852 date=1309543749] [quote author=BMTJags link=topic=84422.msg1021824#msg1021824 date=1309539627] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021814#msg1021814 date=1309538609] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021806#msg1021806 date=1309537743] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=84422.msg1021798#msg1021798 date=1309536153] I think this year is going to be much more competitive than last ;) at least this time you guys could have a chance at get a win against Nederland :D [/quote] :o Central gonna run all over Nederland. Nederland has no chance. Give up. Leave the district. Go 3-A,  you will have a better chance ;D [/quote] Can't wait to see Ur shocked reaction when Nederland wins district again! ::) [/quote]Just so you know, Coach English have taken many beatings at the hands of Central while at Vidor. That Vidor team (2006 I believe) that beat Ozen (still pretty dominant) 3 times in one year was taken down by double digits by Central.  That Vidor team was Coached by English.   [/quote] Remember now, Vidor never had a winning record before English arrived, and never made the playoffs. After he was there for a few years, they made the playoffs 3 yrs in a row! Since he left, they haven't been back! The same year Vidor beat Ozen 3 times, Vidor also split with Central (who cares if one game was lopsided). What's Ur point? U trying to discredit English? He has defeated Ozen 7 times in his career. Don't think any coach and/or team has accomplished that. Nice try... BTW-When was the last time Central beat Ozen? [/quote]Your information is inaccurate.  English's Vidor Pirates made the playoffs once, maybe twice.  They didn't make the playoffs 3 times.  I've just told you that Vidor Beat Ozen twice that year, so why even repeat it?  The lopsided victory shows you that there is talent at Central to beat a English coached team.  I'm not trying to discredit English.  I think he is a good coach.  I'm just informing you that Coach English knows who we are and know  he will have a battle when he plays Central.  I'm sure he don't think his team is all world beaters like you seem to think. BTW, Central have split with Ozen the last 2 years, just in case you didn't  know... [/quote]

[quote name="BMTJags" post="1021824" timestamp="1309539627"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021814#msg1021814 date=1309538609] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021806#msg1021806 date=1309537743] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=84422.msg1021798#msg1021798 date=1309536153] I think this year is going to be much more competitive than last ;) at least this time you guys could have a chance at get a win against Nederland :D [/quote] :o Central gonna run all over Nederland. Nederland has no chance. Give up. Leave the district. Go 3-A,  you will have a better chance ;D [/quote] Can't wait to see Ur shocked reaction when Nederland wins district again! ::) [/quote]Just so you know, Coach English have taken many beatings at the hands of Central while at Vidor. That Vidor team (2006 I believe) that beat Ozen (still pretty dominant) 3 times in one year was taken down by double digits by Central.  That Vidor team was Coached by English.   [/quote] Remember now, Vidor never had a winning record before English arrived, and never made the playoffs. After he was there for a few years, they made the playoffs 3 yrs in a row! Since he left, they haven't been back! The same year Vidor beat Ozen 3 times, Vidor also split with Central (who cares if one game was lopsided). What's Ur point? U trying to discredit English? He has defeated Ozen 7 times in his career. Don't think any coach and/or team has accomplished that. Nice try... BTW-When was the last time Central beat Ozen?

[quote name="BMTJags" post="1021797" timestamp="1309535953"] And as far as I can remember, you guys don't have anyone that can guard Kristion Smith, who will be in his senior campagn as a 4 year starter. [/quote] I also can't seem to remember anyone being able to hold Lebron James, but he still doesn't have a ring! :o

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1021806" timestamp="1309537743"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=84422.msg1021798#msg1021798 date=1309536153] I think this year is going to be much more competitive than last ;) at least this time you guys could have a chance at get a win against Nederland :D [/quote] :o Central gonna run all over Nederland. Nederland has no chance. Give up. Leave the district. Go 3-A,  you will have a better chance ;D [/quote] Can't wait to see Ur shocked reaction when Nederland wins district again! ::)

[quote name="BMTJags" post="1021779" timestamp="1309533624"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021761#msg1021761 date=1309530470] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021754#msg1021754 date=1309529386] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021750#msg1021750 date=1309528644] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021744#msg1021744 date=1309527693] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021645#msg1021645 date=1309484695] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021604#msg1021604 date=1309470840] [quote author=ShlyKBMT link=topic=84422.msg1021585#msg1021585 date=1309466719] Whitesboro is 3A. [/quote]Yep, beating up on the little fellas, huh! [/quote They've also whipped up on Bmt. Central a few times this summer. [/quote]Enjoy your summer ;) [/quote]  So...U think Central is going to defeat Nederland this season in district? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/quote]I think Nederland will get the third spot in their district. ;) [/quote] Ok. I predict they get 2nd (at worse). If U are predicting 3rd, then should I assume that u believe Central will finish ahead of them? Quick history of last year: Nederland swept Central last year on Varsity, JV, and Freshman... [/quote]Quick history.  Before the last 2 years (before the 2 bigs from PA come over), what was Big Ned's record against Central?  And may I remind you that those 2 bigs are gone now.  Summer ball do not equate to  anything that will happen  in district, where it means everything.  Please don't tell me that you will rely on the services on the big 'baseball' freshmen player from last year... [/quote] If U want to go back, let's do it! Nederland was NOTHING before coach English took over. This is now an elite program in the area (as long as he is coaching). You can either accept it now or continue denying it. Speaking of the PA transfers...oh U mean when they transferred back in the 6th grade? Do U really consider. That a transfer? And, btw, who cares where they came from. They r (were) HS kids who beat Central the past 2 yearss, and split with them the year before. BTW-Have U seen Ned's sophomore center play? I guess U also didn't hear about the new (actual) transfer who is also 6'5". So we basically replaced two bigs with 2 new bigs. Get ready for more defeats this season! :o

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1021754" timestamp="1309529386"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021750#msg1021750 date=1309528644] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021744#msg1021744 date=1309527693] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021645#msg1021645 date=1309484695] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021604#msg1021604 date=1309470840] [quote author=ShlyKBMT link=topic=84422.msg1021585#msg1021585 date=1309466719] Whitesboro is 3A. [/quote]Yep, beating up on the little fellas, huh! [/quote] They've also whipped up on Bmt. Central a few times this summer. [/quote]Enjoy your summer ;) [/quote]  So...U think Central is going to defeat Nederland this season in district? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/quote]I think Nederland will get the third spot in their district. ;) [/quote] Ok. I predict they get 2nd (at worse). If U are predicting 3rd, then should I assume that u believe Central will finish ahead of them? Quick history of last year: Nederland swept Central last year on Varsity, JV, and Freshman...

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1021744" timestamp="1309527693"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=84422.msg1021645#msg1021645 date=1309484695] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=84422.msg1021604#msg1021604 date=1309470840] [quote author=ShlyKBMT link=topic=84422.msg1021585#msg1021585 date=1309466719] Whitesboro is 3A. [/quote]Yep, beating up on the little fellas, huh! [/quote] They've also whipped up on Bmt. Central a few times this summer. [/quote]Enjoy your summer ;) [/quote] So...U think Central is going to defeat Nederland this season in district? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1021604" timestamp="1309470840"] [quote author=ShlyKBMT link=topic=84422.msg1021585#msg1021585 date=1309466719] Whitesboro is 3A. [/quote]Yep, beating up on the little fellas, huh! [/quote] They've also whipped up on Bmt. Central a few times this summer.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1020740" timestamp="1309030160"] I love the groups coming up too, but Nederland cant win in Austin unless they get size! Talent is there to be great but Height wins you state ;) The varsity group for next year is learning that at Texas A&M this weekend for the team camp. Playing pretty well from what I have been told, but the teams they are going against are huge [/quote] The 6'5" transfer (not from PAM) should help with size.

[quote name="I dont play well with Jaguars" post="1020763" timestamp="1309037001"] [quote author=BMTJags link=topic=84422.msg1020605#msg1020605 date=1308943393] [quote author=rykerx144 link=topic=84422.msg1020602#msg1020602 date=1308941027] Nederland will be in the top 5 in state for the next four or five years with a State Title within the next 5 years! [/quote] ::) ::) ::) ::) [/quote]they would have to recruit P.A. Memorial much harder for that to happen.  ;) [/quote] When did they start recruiting from there (or anywhere for that matter)? Surely we're not gonna have this debate again!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1020625" timestamp="1308951640"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=85128.msg1020594#msg1020594 date=1308933266] Come on Dove, answer Nash's post about your boys earning everything, and nothing was given to them. Have they not worked hard to earn the respect they deserve, or did they open the mail and receive 'basketball talent' from someone (government maybe)? [/quote]Okay Abe, I did apply for a government grant and received assistance to attend a very private and exclusive basketball academy in Florida that cater to the haves. As a have-not, I thank the tax paying citizens frm our great country. [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D

Come on Dove, answer Nash's post about your boys earning everything, and nothing was given to them. Have they not worked hard to earn the respect they deserve, or did they open the mail and receive 'basketball talent' from someone (government maybe)?

[quote name="ballin4life" post="1019278" timestamp="1308410516"] PAM look good so far, so does NED. Heard that NED will have two new move-ins that should make them real good. [/quote] Move-ins from where?

Not even close. MJ without a doubt. Lebron doesn't want it bad enough.

Not gonna happen. Why would he leave Nederland? His program is thriving, and he is coaching his own kids. 19-1 looks good on paper, but Vidor played against sub-par competition. [quote name="incognito" post="1017826" timestamp="1307803453"] [quote author=tjcfan08 link=topic=84805.msg1017398#msg1017398 date=1307639517] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=84805.msg1017004#msg1017004 date=1307468730] [quote author=emptybucket link=topic=84805.msg1016985#msg1016985 date=1307464764] Anyone know about this position? [/quote] It is open. Zach Quinn has left his head coaching position to be AP at Vidor Middle School. [/quote] Zach Quinn will be missed....I've enjoyed watching him Coach the past 5 or 6 years and I consider him one of the best in our area....Not easy to come in and start a new program and be successful, but would have liked the opportunity to see what he could have done with a talented group of kids that put basketball first....Good Luck Mr. Quinn!!!!  [/quote] Maybe they could talk Brian English, who is currently the head coach at Nederland into comming back to Vidor. You know Quinn led the Pirates to a 23-9 record this season, including a 19-1 start....not bad. [/quote]

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[quote name="78Stang" post="1001768" timestamp="1303619817"] I am not trying to put 20-4a down at all but be real, all of those highlights are just that, highlights. Any player, anywhere, can take certain plays from certain games and make a "heisman trophy" type video. I also saw that there were plays against WO-S in the highlight video. As I recall Nederland lost that game to a 3-A school. So, no it is not about 20-4A. Once again, I see a talented young man who is just a Sophmore and has a lot of potential. If you want to make a college scholorship plea for the player (or your son) I think you should do it on a college scouting web site not here. [/quote] Why are you hatin' so much 78 Stang? Did you also notice how this kid was either double or triple teamed on a lot of these plays? Did you also see where he is just a sophomore?? Does it really matter if his TEAM won or lost that game? Have you ever heard anyone ever say...that team won the game b/c ONE defensive lineman? Why not just give the kid some credit?

Love to have Landry back too. I'd take Scola over Bosh. Bosh is more athletic, but Scola is tough, and he provides more of an offensive threat. He has better skills too. U can ride Scola's back to win. I see Bosh as more of a role player. Bosh is a better defender and rebounder though. Can't go wrong with either one IMO.

What a disappointment. Can't believe he bowed out after nine. If he would have been 2-3 under after nine with that same injury, do you think he would have dropped out? I think not. He would have sucked it up. He was just playing like one of us, and he didn't know how to handle it.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1008092" timestamp="1304971301"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=83666.msg1008081#msg1008081 date=1304969307] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=83666.msg1008026#msg1008026 date=1304961145] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=83666.msg1007998#msg1007998 date=1304958749] Dove, does Prudhomme have a chance against the Longhorns?  Is somebody going to "lock him down"?  If you say yes, I want to arrange a wager with you. [/quote]Prudhomme is "da man." I'm not taking any bets against this young man. ;) [/quote] How did Nederland hold him? I saw where Ned won the game, but was not able to be there. Did they shut down Prudhomme? [/quote] The Nederland -HJ game was a triple overtime affair.  After two overtimes proved fruitless, the ref simply stated that the first score wins.  Nederland was fouled on a rebound and made the free throw ending the game in the third overtime.  I wouldn't say that " Ned held him". [/quote] Sounds like a good game. Look forward to their meeting in November (assuming they are playing again this year about the same time as they did last season)...