Honest Abe

How does HF stack up?

They have the one big Freshman (Soph next year) who is 6'4". He has a thick body, so he plays bigger. Their Soph (Jr nxt yr) guards are anywhere from 6'0-6'3". The only senior who will start next yr is about 5'10". They lost height, but gained speed, quickness, 3-ballers, and ball handlers. They will be tough to beat again.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1004716" timestamp="1304306878"] Updates! Is tourney still on or have teams dropped when they heard the rumors about HF entering? [/quote] Nope, just lickin' our chops just like 'Dove' season! ;D

Don't know anything about BH, but I know the Dogs are stacked from top to bottom. Gonna go with Nederland to take this series in 2 games.

Now I know why Vidor has improved in baseball so much.  ;) Y'all got a wonderful Nederland product as Ur head coach- way to go Coach Green-Congrats!!

[quote name="pirate68" post="1004419" timestamp="1304212095"] Great job guys....Way to hang in and battle....Coach Green and Humberson deserve alot of credit keeping them focused in this game. Sounds like everyone stepped up....From the seniors down to the freshmen on this team. [/quote] Green? Is Kyle Green the coach at Vidor or a different Green?

Any results from the OF Tourney yesterday? I watched Nederland beat WO-S by about 30, and they beat Jasper by about 20. Who else played?

[quote name="1696dogs" post="1003867" timestamp="1304126919"] Top 6th. LCM puts in #14 to pitch. Sonnier 4-3. Babino single. Pitts 2 run HOMERUN!!! [/quote] Way to go Pitts!!,

[quote name="Aces_Full" post="1002879" timestamp="1303924463"] Ned, Silsbee, and Pa Heat in no particular order.  [/quote] Don't overlook HJ in the top 3. Top 4 PA Heat Ned HJ Silsbee

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1002953" timestamp="1303935744"] [quote author=Aces_Full link=topic=83666.msg1002879#msg1002879 date=1303924463] Ned, Silsbee, and Pa Heat in no particular order.  [/quote]I think Kelly can handle Nederland ;D [/quote] Not gonna happen Dove.  8) BTW-Why is HF not in the tourney?

Vidor    6 Livingston  4

Anyone know who all is going to compete in this tournament?

PN-G proved me wrong Tuesday vs. LC-M, so I'm going with: PN-G 3 Vidor 2

Nederland 9 Lumberton 2

LC-M  6 PN-G  3

3rd-Vidor 4th-PN-G (after seeing Nederland destroy Livingston Friday night, gotta go with the Indians).

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="998444" timestamp="1302977707"] Recap of the 2nd inning for Nederland 23 batters, 17 runs, 12 hits, 9 singles, 1 double, 2 Hr's, 7 BB's, 1 E Not a bad inning for the Dogs [/quote] That's got to be a record of some sort....WOW!!

[quote name="dogs14" post="997124" timestamp="1302748678"] Nederland claims the district title by sum 35 points! [/quote] Impressive! I saw where Layne Smith won the 800 and mile. Did Kelvin Smith win the high jump?

Congrats Nederland track team!

Nederland has been dominant since losing their district opener to Vidor. I don't see them losing another district game. Nederland 7 Livingston 4

[quote name="NHS83LU87" post="997022" timestamp="1302727623"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=82957.msg995725#msg995725 date=1302540369] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=82957.msg995719#msg995719 date=1302539714] I really don't think anyone is argueing that Brian should not be COY, but don't belittle what Laurance has done at Evadale and don't say he is hating on Nederland because that is not the case. It just sounded like this manager dude has a personal axe to grind with Coach L and has nothing to do with who should be COY. [/quote] I don't know what his personal issue is with him. I'll give Coach L respect if he does something more than one season. Not sure if his kids had lots of talent or what. I just know he did NOTHING for the Nederland program when he was there. Hardwood-he did NOT prepare any of these kids to get where they are today. Coach E is the one who coached them during little dribblers, etc and implemented a winning attitude, along with their work ethic and dedication to the program... [/quote] I usually agree with you but not on this.  Coach Williams did a great job with Jacob, Chris, and Dionte, when they were at Central MS.  He did teach them a thing or two about basketball.  Finally, there has not been a coach that both my boys played for, that cared more or treated them more fairly than Coach Williams and that includes Coach E.    Coach E. should be COY but Coach Williams deserves more respect than he is being given. Steven Pitts [/quote] BTW-I see where Jacob and the Dawgs baseball team are kicking some butte! Congrats!

[quote name="NHS83LU87" post="997022" timestamp="1302727623"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=82957.msg995725#msg995725 date=1302540369] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=82957.msg995719#msg995719 date=1302539714] I really don't think anyone is argueing that Brian should not be COY, but don't belittle what Laurance has done at Evadale and don't say he is hating on Nederland because that is not the case. It just sounded like this manager dude has a personal axe to grind with Coach L and has nothing to do with who should be COY. [/quote] I don't know what his personal issue is with him. I'll give Coach L respect if he does something more than one season. Not sure if his kids had lots of talent or what. I just know he did NOTHING for the Nederland program when he was there. Hardwood-he did NOT prepare any of these kids to get where they are today. Coach E is the one who coached them during little dribblers, etc and implemented a winning attitude, along with their work ethic and dedication to the program... [/quote] I usually agree with you but not on this.  Coach Williams did a great job with Jacob, Chris, and Dionte, when they were at Central MS.  He did teach them a thing or two about basketball.  Finally, there has not been a coach that both my boys played for, that cared more or treated them more fairly than Coach Williams and that includes Coach E.    Coach E. should be COY but Coach Williams deserves more respect than he is being given. Steven Pitts Sorry Steven- Maybe I should have been more clear. I never claimed he didn't care or didn't treat them fairly. I don't know him on that level. When I stated he did nothing for the program, I was more referring to winning, the desire to be the best, and the belief that anything is possible. Maybe I was not fair to him in some of my statements, because I only watched his program from a distance while I lived out of the country. All I ever heard from others during that time was that Nederland had plenty of talent, but didn't know how to win. Respectfully. [/quote]

Y'all leave Soulja alone. Let's not go down the gramatically correct road; if we do, we'll never get a point across. Peace.

U can say and believe what U want, I'm not going to change my opinion on his coaching while at Nederland.

[quote name="Tarkthe Shark" post="995818" timestamp="1302549366"] I guess running basketball camp, hosting winter and summer league(when no other school would) and helping get the little dribblers program started through the Nederland Parks and Rec Department doesn't count. He also paid out of his own pocket players camp fee's to be able to go off to summer basketball camp. And let's take it a step further...in your mind every other basketball coach in Nederland's history was a failure if your looking at win's and losses. Lot's of really good coaches have come through Nederland, no question Coach English has accomplished the most. [/quote] No, he did NOT get Little Dribblers started. You need to get YOUR facts straight. Coach English did while he was still at Vidor. And, IF he helped pay for a summer camp out of his own pocket, then (I believe) that is against UIL violations. As far as other Nederland basketball coaches go, I don't think they have had many good ones. Lots of losses, not many Ws. Williams had nowhere near the commitment that it takes (while he was in Nederland) to be an elite program-IMO. He may be great for Evadale, but he accomplished nothing while he coached at Nederland.