Honest Abe

2nd team in for 2nd Q, half: Ned 42 Vidor 17

End of 1st: Ned 29 Vidor 4

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365904" timestamp="1358902440"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108433.msg1365863#msg1365863 date=1358898270] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108433.msg1365860#msg1365860 date=1358896701] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108433.msg1365826#msg1365826 date=1358892447] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108433.msg1365817#msg1365817 date=1358891910] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108433.msg1365806#msg1365806 date=1358890966] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108433.msg1365798#msg1365798 date=1358889940] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108433.msg1365795#msg1365795 date=1358889715] [quote author=TopFlight link=topic=108433.msg1365754#msg1365754 date=1358884470] Im going on the record Ozen wins by double digits...signed,sealed,delivered... [/quote] ::) Double digits?  We Haven't lost a game by  double digits all year.  Btw, wasn't this predicted the first TWO times this year?  How did that turn out? [/quote] Yes but they did lose to a 3A JV team. ;) [/quote] ...and Silsbee lost to a team with 8 total wins (Lee) and to a team in mid county twice... 8) ;)  Somebody stop me!!!  :o [/quote] And the arrogance just steadily flows out. Last year they wanted the coach fired. ::) [/quote]But he was selected as 'Coach of the Year' last season in 20-4A. ::) Sorry, but that was a slap in the face after what English accomplished last year after losing his starting 5 from the 2010/2011 Regional Tournament team. But that's a completely different topic. Will the Central/Ozen game be broadcasted tonight? [/quote] What, a coach that orchestrated a Co district championship with a team that was starting 3 freshmen and 1 sophomore?  This young team team beat your last year veteran Bulldog team 2 out of 3 times.  Soooo, congrats to Coach Lee last year. ;) [/quote]Veteran team? ??? What are you talking about? Central's Varsity had much more experience last year than Ned, including K. Smith. We had ZERO starters who returned after 2010/2011 and only 2 Lettermen (English and Weisbrod, a Soph and Jr). We started ONE senior last year who did not play on Ned's varsity the year before. During AND after last season, you were the lead voice to get rid of coach Lee. We learned of his incompetences through you. [/quote] I never said he want incompetent.  Lol.  Heck, he's even done some incompetent things this year.  But, it's really hard to argue with results.  There were results last year, so I can see why he got coach of the year.  Now, if you recall, I was with you.  I think English should have gotten it.  8) Now, last years's Nederland team was more experienced that last year's Jag team.  I do know that as a fact.  [/quote]Was Kristian Smith a starter on the 2010/2011 team? If so, then Central had MORE return than Nederland. Again, Ned had ZERO starters from 2010/2011. Weisbrod was a Freshman and English was a Sophomore. Colton played less than 15 min/game, and Zach played about 20 min/game. You think Central had less returning than Nederland from the 2010/2011 season? ??? If Central wins District this year, I would agree that Lee deserves it. Last year, he did not, IMO.

PNG gonna take this game and take over that 4th playoff spot.

Rooting for the Panthers. Need an Ozen victory to keep our District Title hopes alive.

I know this thread is entitled 'What is wrong with Ned?'. I can tell you nothing is wrong with their future. At half, Ned Freshmen up 52-5 over Vidor.

There will be no response. As usual, people speculate and ASSume instead of researching the FACTS!!

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365860" timestamp="1358896701"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108433.msg1365826#msg1365826 date=1358892447] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108433.msg1365817#msg1365817 date=1358891910] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108433.msg1365806#msg1365806 date=1358890966] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108433.msg1365798#msg1365798 date=1358889940] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108433.msg1365795#msg1365795 date=1358889715] [quote author=TopFlight link=topic=108433.msg1365754#msg1365754 date=1358884470] Im going on the record Ozen wins by double digits...signed,sealed,delivered... [/quote] ::) Double digits?  We Haven't lost a game by  double digits all year.  Btw, wasn't this predicted the first TWO times this year?  How did that turn out? [/quote] Yes but they did lose to a 3A JV team. ;) [/quote] ...and Silsbee lost to a team with 8 total wins (Lee) and to a team in mid county twice... 8) ;)  Somebody stop me!!!  :o [/quote] And the arrogance just steadily flows out. Last year they wanted the coach fired. ::) [/quote]But he was selected as 'Coach of the Year' last season in 20-4A. ::) Sorry, but that was a slap in the face after what English accomplished last year after losing his starting 5 from the 2010/2011 Regional Tournament team. But that's a completely different topic. Will the Central/Ozen game be broadcasted tonight? [/quote] What, a coach that orchestrated a Co district championship with a team that was starting 3 freshmen and 1 sophomore?  This young team team beat your last year veteran Bulldog team 2 out of 3 times.  Soooo, congrats to Coach Lee last year. ;) [/quote]Veteran team? ??? What are you talking about? Central's Varsity had much more experience last year than Ned, including K. Smith. We had ZERO starters who returned after 2010/2011 and only 2 Lettermen (English and Weisbrod, a Soph and Jr). We started ONE senior last year who did not play on Ned's varsity the year before. During AND after last season, you were the lead voice to get rid of coach Lee. We learned of his incompetences through you.

How is Silsbee ranked #2 in the 'Dirty Dozen' rankings? ???

On our Varsity and Freshmen teams, we do not have ONE kid who is from PA. As I mentioned, we may have a kid on JV who transferred from PA.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1365822" timestamp="1358892147"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108406.msg1365821#msg1365821 date=1358892059] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108406.msg1365793#msg1365793 date=1358889637] Question, what players currently playing for Nederland are from Port Arthur? [/quote]None on the Varsity team and none on the Freshmen team. There may be a JV player who transferred from PA, but not certain about that. [/quote] Say Abe..My brother is the PRINCIPAL at Memorial..Its a few more than that have transferred to Nederland, my man... 8) [/quote]Ok. Which kid(s) on JV are from PAM? Names please.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1365817" timestamp="1358891910"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108433.msg1365806#msg1365806 date=1358890966] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108433.msg1365798#msg1365798 date=1358889940] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108433.msg1365795#msg1365795 date=1358889715] [quote author=TopFlight link=topic=108433.msg1365754#msg1365754 date=1358884470] Im going on the record Ozen wins by double digits...signed,sealed,delivered... [/quote] ::) Double digits?  We Haven't lost a game by  double digits all year.  Btw, wasn't this predicted the first TWO times this year?  How did that turn out? [/quote] Yes but they did lose to a 3A JV team. ;) [/quote] ...and Silsbee lost to a team with 8 total wins (Lee) and to a team in mid county twice... 8) ;)  Somebody stop me!!!  :o [/quote] And the arrogance just steadily flows out. Last year they wanted the coach fired. ::) [/quote]But he was selected as 'Coach of the Year' last season in 20-4A. ::) Sorry, but that was a slap in the face after what English accomplished last year after losing his starting 5 from the 2010/2011 Regional Tournament team. But that's a completely different topic. Will the Central/Ozen game be broadcasted tonight? 

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1365793" timestamp="1358889637"] Question, what players currently playing for Nederland are from Port Arthur? [/quote]None on the Varsity team and none on the Freshmen team. There may be a JV player who transferred from PA, but not certain about that.

[quote name="85' HUSKER" post="1365749" timestamp="1358883206"] Actually, Nederland does have Open Enrollment. We like to fly under the radar and work the program through Open Gym on Wednesday's and Sunday's during off periods. Lot's of good looking athletes from Beaumont, PA and other towns come in for a meet-N-greet with the coach, community and players. We hope to attract transfers through this program at a young age. Preferably, they make the jump going into 9th grade when it isn't so noticeable. The program has not been successful the last few years, but we were able to nab a good freshman this year.  :D [/quote]Wow! Wondering if you are ever going to make a factual post regarding the basketball program? ::) If you're bitter about something, let's hear it.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365640" timestamp="1358860667"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108433.msg1365638#msg1365638 date=1358859338] Would someone please erect a sign directly behind the Ozen bench stating it is recommended that Central fans NOT choose this area for seating even though they might be allowed there for the JV game. [/quote] I noticed you said 'recomended'.  So, you want the seating behind the Ozen bench to be  optional for Central fans or mandatory for Ozen fans?  It spawns another question.  How can a Central fan be differentiated between an Ozen fan tonight?  ;) [/quote] How about look at their color of shirt they are wearing or observe which team they are cheering on. ::) For the second time, ur comment suggests the fans were moved for racial reasons. You said on Saturday that was not what you were implying, and I accepted your response. Now you have implied it again. What's up with that?

[quote name="bball2011" post="1365611" timestamp="1358824608"] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108406.msg1365344#msg1365344 date=1358706957] I don't think there is anything wrong with Nederland.  There are some small things that Nederland can improve on but sometimes the shots fall for you and sometimes they don't.  Look at Ozen for example. They almost lost to PNG because they couldn't get there shots to go down.  There is a lot of basketball left. Anything could happen! Also IMO, the BMT schools should be the top runners in the district in all three sports. Football, Basketball, Baseball.  You have 100K + to choose from with a open enrollment with a 5A school already in the area vs the rest of the district with 16k that have 1 school. I think Ozen and Central should be playing 5A. IMO, i think if you have a area with 5A numbers and a open enrollment, you should be playing 5A. Or close the open enrollment and make them go to the school in there living zone. I bet there are some 7 graders and 8th graders right now playing together from different zones in BMT debating on what school they should all go to when they get to high school. Other schools in the district don't have this luxury. [/quote] Doesn't Nederland have open enrollment? [/quote] We only have one HS within NISD, how can we have open enrollment? ???

If Ozen shoots lights out like they did against Ned, then the Panthers pull the 'upset' and coast to victory. The Jags do not shoot well from outside, so they don't usually rely on good shooting to win like Ozen and Nederland do. I think a lot of pressure will be on the young Panthers to make shots from the outside. I know the Jags are young too, but they have the confidence on their side right now with two big wins over Ozen and Nederland. I think it will lead them to a W. If the Jags are over confident, it will be their demise. Jags by 3 in OT. 

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365328" timestamp="1358699088"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108357.msg1365324#msg1365324 date=1358697975] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365323#msg1365323 date=1358697779] Now about the actual game itself, Central played very good defense.  The [b]30[/b] point performance was Big Ned's lowest point total of the year.  This kind of  defense can carry the Jags them a long way! [/quote] 40. [/quote] Let me reword it.  The 40 points are amongst the lowest total for Nederland this season... [/quote]Yep. Not gonna win many games scoring 40 points against an elite team. The defensive effort for Ned was impressive as well. Since the Lufkin tourney, the Jags have averaged 64ppg. Holding the Jags to 50 is not easy. 50 points is amongst the lowest output for the Jags this season. Central has scored exactly 50 in 3 games this year, plus a 38 point and 44 point performance in the Lufkin tourney. In order to win games, we must show up in the 1st half. We have come from behind too many times this season. We must find a way to get a lead early. Gotta play hard and aggressive all 4Q's, not just the last 2 when we are behind.

[quote name="85' HUSKER" post="1365222" timestamp="1358639273"] Actually AAW, as I understand it, the savior suggested was a 5'10" PG transfer from Memorial who can actually dribble the ball. I don't believe their was any mention of a 6'4" player. Isn't that correct Abe? I hope we turn this around soon, cause a buddy bet me Ned would be 3rd place and a first round exit from the playoffs about 3 weeks ago. Say it ain't so cause I hate to lose $$. Come on Dogs You can do it. [/quote]There is no PG transfer from Memorial who is on any of Ned's HS teams (9-12). ::) Someone brought up a 6'4" kid, but they were referring to the 2 kids who were suppose to join the team after the football season concluded.

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365178" timestamp="1358626776"] At the end of the day Central won! Talk and post whatever you like but, you can't change that fact. For the second time this season.  ;D Use your dictionary to look up the word for a team that loses twice to another team! Lmbo [/quote]I've already said about 5 times on this site that Central was the better team last night. I made ZERO excuses for us losing. Central is good and deserved the W. Again, try winning with class next time instead of bringing up off court issues that were irrelevant to the game itself. If you attack me or my friends, I will defend them and myself. You made false accusations over and over then turned it into a race issue. As soon as others state rules that are enforced in MOST gyms, you squirm and change the subject instead if admitting you were wrong.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1365177" timestamp="1358626529"] C'mon Robert, using the name "Rosa Parks" implies race. You know it, everybody knows it. Maybe that was a poor analogy of the situation and you did not intend to make it a racial comment. But using a woman's name that hits at the heart of long time racial discrimination, is implying race. [/quote]From what I know about Soulja, I honestly don't think he meant for it to come off that way, I believe him. However, implying DOES mean SUGGESTING without saying as the definition states.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365174" timestamp="1358626238"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365169#msg1365169 date=1358625459] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365156#msg1365156 date=1358622920] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781] Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved. Rules are rules, just follow them. I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::) [/quote] I said it brings Rosa Parks to mind.  Meaning making someone move.  I didn't bring race into it.  Didn't accuse anyone from Nederland of being a racist... [/quote]You implied race, which is no different. [/quote]If that's what you deciphered from my post, then I would say it's your opinion since I'm telling you that I didn't throw the race card in.  Also, implying race and making a racial comment IS different. [/quote] Definition of imply: imply[ im-plahy ] verb (used with object) im·plied, im·ply·ing. 1. to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1365167" timestamp="1358625244"] An example of how some gyms are set up for visitor and home fans. Last night at WO-S, they have four sections of bleachers (1 section behind the WO-S bench, 1 behind the visitor bench, other two sections are directly across the floor from the aforementioned sections). The home fans (WO-S) get 3 of those sections. (behind home bench, and both sections across the floor). Visitors get the section behind the visiting team bench. That's it. Silsbee fans were regulated to sit in that section and that section only. Those are the rules of that gym. Is it fair? That's debatable but it is still the rules of that particular gym. Every gym I have been to have designated seating areas for home and visitors. There are usually signs directing the fans. If not, then law enforcement directs or school admins direct. Pretty simple to me. Based on my age and what I do, I think I have seen my share of gyms in my lifetime, more than most on this site. ;) [/quote]8) 8)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1365156" timestamp="1358622920"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781] Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved. Rules are rules, just follow them. I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::) [/quote] I said it brings Rosa Parks to mind.  Meaning making someone move.  I didn't bring race into it.  Didn't accuse anyone from Nederland of being a racist... [/quote]You implied race, which is no different.

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365155" timestamp="1358622747"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365153#msg1365153 date=1358622440] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108357.msg1365152#msg1365152 date=1358622229] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781] Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved. Rules are rules, just follow them. I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::) [/quote] Race card? Racism and being discriminated against is not a game! I know you would know nothing of this and therefore can easily make light of the subject. There's no card being played. SMH go head and lock this moderators cause some people's ignorance is starting to show! [/quote]u know nothing about me or my race sir. If you want to speak of ignorance, you just demonstrated that you believe discrimination only goes in one direction. It shows YOUR ignorance sir. [/quote] Seems like you may have returned the favor my ignorant friend. Lol [/quote] discriminate[ dih-skrim-uh-neyt; dih-skrim-uh-nit ] verb (used without object) 1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality. Hmmm?? I don't see where it says it only applies to a single group of people. It seems that it applies to any group. ignorance noun 1. the state or fact of being ignorant lack of knowledge, information, etc.