Honest Abe

KW Park getting no respect. After back-to-back Reg Tourney appearances, they are picked to finish 4th in their district? Maybe they lost a lot to graduation?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1300413" timestamp="1350235523"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=104442.msg1300394#msg1300394 date=1350234174] [quote author=BmtTopFlight2017 link=topic=104442.msg1300383#msg1300383 date=1350233631] PAM played a good game..as far game plan well we'll see if it applies when the SEASON starts...I remind you Ozenn played with some KEY pieces missing...Silsbee game was poorly officiated with the refs allowing Silsbee players to throw elbows and punches.... [/quote]When you play Silsbee, get ready to play physical. Sometimes they are too aggressive, IMO, but would like to see my Dawgs learn from them. Ned has improved in that area, but sometimes we play too soft. Can't play soft and expect to beat a team like Silsbee. [/quote] I almost passed out when a Nederland player was kicked out of the Baytown Sterling game. Man, he is a warrior. Pulled his Jersey up and was ready for battle. Stood his ground too. Lets hope it doesn't rubber off. LOL! [/quote]As I mentioned, Ned has become more aggressive lately, but they need to learn to control their frustration and not retaliate when the play is over.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1300391" timestamp="1350234066"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=104514.msg1300363#msg1300363 date=1350232026] RCS has a list of kids and which conference(s) in which they are projected to attend college. A couple of local kids on the list. Someone mentioned earlier that he played AAU ball this past summer with a 16U team and not a 17/18U team. Maybe he was not on their list bc he was not noticed at the lower level? Although I'm not a huge fan of AAU, I agree it is a necessary evil which kids should play if they want to get noticed. [b]It's not easy to play in the Big 12. One has to be exceptional to get a scholarship with UT, Baylor, A&M, etc[/b]. Same with C-USA. As we have now learned, some of the better basketball kids in our area are not good enough to play in the SLC. I think a kid with the skill sets like Devante would be thrilled to be able to play for McNeese. Here's a question: Does Devante even want to play college basketball? Some kids get burned out after HS and AAU. [/quote] Uh Abe, A&M is SEC now. ;) ;D [/quote]When did that happen? JK! Thanks for the reminder AAW!  ;)

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1300383" timestamp="1350233631"] PAM played a good game..as far game plan well we'll see if it applies when the SEASON starts...I remind you Ozenn played with some KEY pieces missing...Silsbee game was poorly officiated with the refs allowing Silsbee players to throw elbows and punches.... [/quote]When you play Silsbee, get ready to play physical. Sometimes they are too aggressive, IMO, but would like to see my Dawgs learn from them. Ned has improved in that area, but sometimes we play too soft. Can't play soft and expect to beat a team like Silsbee.

RCS has a list of kids and which conference(s) in which they are projected to attend college. A couple of local kids on the list. Someone mentioned earlier that he played AAU ball this past summer with a 16U team and not a 17/18U team. Maybe he was not on their list bc he was not noticed at the lower level? Although I'm not a huge fan of AAU, I agree it is a necessary evil which kids should play if they want to get noticed. It's not easy to play in the Big 12. One has to be exceptional to get a scholarship with UT, Baylor, A&M, etc. Same with C-USA. As we have now learned, some of the better basketball kids in our area are not good enough to play in the SLC. I think a kid with the skill sets like Devante would be thrilled to be able to play for McNeese. Here's a question: Does Devante even want to play college basketball? Some kids get burned out after HS and AAU.

[quote name="CATMAN" post="1300270" timestamp="1350215762"] Nederland 64 Big Sandy 59 Baytown Sterling 47 Big Sandy 42 Don't know how Nederland and Sterling turned out. [/quote]Ned beat Sterling by 30. Big Sandy earned my respect. They will make some noise (again) in 1A/2A?

Livingston

Shaw=Stud

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1298328" timestamp="1350091146"] 28-21 Central End of 1st [/quote]Woa Bamakid, really?? What a shootout!! My kind of game fo sho!

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1297286" timestamp="1349995533"] Nederland ever since Coach English came. Personally cant remember Nederland having anything consistent before that. Abe can probably give some details. [/quote]No consistency at all. When English was in school (1987), he led the Dogs to their 1st post season since 1955. Then Ned finished 3rd in the early 90's. I think it was '93 or '94, but we were one and done. English  arrived in Ned in 2006 (i believe), and the Dogs made the playoffs during his 3rd year (2009). After winning (or sharing) a district title three years straight (2010-2012), we suddenly have much higher expectations. Hopefully this is the start of our winning tradition. I surely don't want us to go back to those days of losing.  :'( Sorry if my years aren't exact, my mind ain't what it use to be!  ;D

[quote name="friendswoodkid" post="1296475" timestamp="1349900924"] Moms png and nederland gets more hype then any other school. Its been like that for years, and png is getting torched and they still pump em up smdh [/quote]Maybe it's bc more people in Ned and PNG subscribe to the PA News compared to those who live in PA??

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1296808" timestamp="1349960330"] Is Team Beaumont the Westbrook squad or Ozen's younger players? [/quote]From what I understand, there is a Bmt team that has players from Central and Ozen. There are also lower divisions, but not sure which team's are in the lower division.

Teams have not been finalized yet.

WO-S Silsbee PAM Baytown Sterling Big Sandy Team Beaumont Nederland

[quote name="Mr. Happy" post="1295925" timestamp="1349839565"] I think part of the problem with the receivers is that they are all plenty short. [/quote]Except Kimler, who is a legit 6'2", maybe 6'3". Not sure why he does not get targeted more. Best athlete on the team, IMO. May be bc Shaw and Barrow are so efficient, they don't need to use him. Would like to see him play more when we get near the end zone and utilize his height/size.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1295440" timestamp="1349796763"] Ruining my rep. Nash is bring me down. Next, I'll be applying for entitlement tickets to Austin [/quote]...or claiming that HJ has a decent basketball program.  8)

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1295407" timestamp="1349795189"] Never, EVER, express in writing that you and I agree on anything [/quote]Too late! I've already read this AND saved it for proof!!  ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="Brubaker" post="1295177" timestamp="1349749426"] Hate to hear when we lose football talent to specialize, likely in a sport [b]they will be another prop in[/b]. [/quote]What does that even mean? ??? BTW-That Freshmen basketball team is very talented. I would guess they see a great opportunity to specialize in one sport. Hard to play FB AND BB. I know it can be done, but it takes a special athlete to be successful at both.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1295029" timestamp="1349735345"] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=101649.msg1295019#msg1295019 date=1349734608] I'll take experience and teamwork over "athleticism" any day of the week.  8) [/quote] Nope, you are wrong.  Times have changed and quickness/speed/jumping ability shall determine most outcomes. :-X [/quote]Just like how the speed/athleticism of Ozen was too much for Vidor Friday night on the FB field? Oh wait, it was Vidor who won that game! Hmmm??  :P

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1294997" timestamp="1349732372"] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=101649.msg1294993#msg1294993 date=1349732084] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=101649.msg1294931#msg1294931 date=1349727484] The biggest thing working against the Beaumont schools is the fact that Nederland just isn't scared to play them anymore.. Nederland is used to not only beating them, but going on to winning district or sharing it.. The group returning is full of seniors who can compete with anyone when the stakes are high enough.. They got plenty of weapons, tons of skill, all the experience, [b]yet they are [b]still[/b] suppose to be a notch below central, and even ozen...[/b] Brian will have these bulldogs ready to make a run! Regardless of what people want to believe [/quote]BD3 just trying to start stuff with us bc he knows you, me, and 5on5 will defend our Dawgs to the end. Central folks won't argue with him, so he tries to get us excited, and I'm okay with that.  ;) He won't admit it, but deep down, he knows Nederland has a good chance for a 4th straight District Title.  8) The difference between our team from last year is experience and confidence. Last year, we returned 0 starters, and only 2 players who came off the bench who contributed (English and Weisbrod). This year, we return 4 starters and 5 others who played Varsity last year. Expectations are high in Big Ned, and I believe these kids are up to the challenge. [/quote]Lol! I thought you wrote, " he knows Nederland has a good chance ..... for a 4th spot."  Sorry! [/quote]At least I (almost) gave you a good laugh!  ;D

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1294931" timestamp="1349727484"] The biggest thing working against the Beaumont schools is the fact that Nederland just isn't scared to play them anymore.. Nederland is used to not only beating them, but going on to winning district or sharing it.. The group returning is full of seniors who can compete with anyone when the stakes are high enough.. They got plenty of weapons, tons of skill, all the experience, [b]yet they are [b]still[/b] suppose to be a notch below central, and even ozen...[/b] Brian will have these bulldogs ready to make a run! Regardless of what people want to believe [/quote]BD3 just trying to start stuff with us bc he knows you, me, and 5on5 will defend our Dawgs to the end. Central folks won't argue with him, so he tries to get us excited, and I'm okay with that.  ;) He won't admit it, but deep down, he knows Nederland has a good chance for a 4th straight District Title.  8) The difference between our team from last year is experience and confidence. Last year, we returned 0 starters, and only 2 players who came off the bench who contributed (English and Weisbrod). This year, we return 4 starters and 5 others who played Varsity last year. Expectations are high in Big Ned, and I believe these kids are up to the challenge.

[quote name="dogbite" post="1294830" timestamp="1349721562"] Quote from: 3bsports on October 07, 2012, 10:58:53 PM WOW...reading all this is getting me fired up for some basketball!  Any of you Bulldogs know which players play both football and basketball?  I was thinking Seay who is Varsity football will also play Varsity basketball?  Am I correct?  Also, are there any other guys that do both? Don't know anyone named Seay? The three players who play FB and BB are: Colton Kimler 6'3" Koby Couron 6'4" DeShawn Washington 6'4 Doesn't matter though bc BD3 just informed us all that Central will win state this year, so why show up?  Seay was on freshman team last year but would probably join the other 3 listed on varsity this year [/quote]Ok. Don't know him (yet). Is he a Guard? Post? Forward?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1294798" timestamp="1349719702"] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=103986.msg1294795#msg1294795 date=1349719486] Is it really true that Central with only 6 or 7 players, beat Yates with 25?  Hmmm- is it the "slightest" possibility that Yates is not as impressive as they are "painted" on this board? [/quote] Yates wins on [b]defense[/b]  and  :-X [/quote]From an eye witness who was at the game, Central had no problem with their 'defense'/press. Maybe Wise is the X factor in which you are keeping silent about?

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1294772" timestamp="1349718268"] One of them was not all of them. Its just like last year when they could have played for the district title outright but instead let Nederland go in as the 1st seed. And again they chose to go there with 6 players and at the end of the day are you satisfied with just showing up and beating Yates.The mentality has to change amongst our young athletes, are we teaching them that if you win a couple of games and beat a great team its ok if you dont play wanna anymore ,cause you proved your point. [/quote]Good post!

[quote name="Stephen A Smith" post="1294694" timestamp="1349712531"] I've said it earlier I seen all teams this Summer an 20-4A will go Central Ozen Nederland Central Too Much Size Talent an Depth Ozen Jordan Hunter is Unstoppable [b]Nederland Lack of Athleticism[/b] [/quote] You mean the same 'lack of athleticism' that led them to win 29 games last year, share the district title, and win 2 playoff games with only one senior on the team?  ::)