Honest Abe

Kimball had 5 blocks in the 1st Q!

U call this 'real bball' BD3 & Soulja?? ???  ::)

[quote name="mfd814" post="1195276" timestamp="1331342919"] Its all real. It's diferent at different levels, you may have one "star" player at the lower level, where the upper levels may have 5 of them. You think Kountze doesn't play real basketball ?    So the posters on this board are you "real" ? Or just a fake poster... Is this a real message board Real is what You make it, your idea..so not all will agree Some will say AAU is the real bb......LOL [/quote] Good post!

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1195082" timestamp="1331324273"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=97341.msg1195075#msg1195075 date=1331323727] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=97341.msg1195060#msg1195060 date=1331321977] I agree with you.  However by saying the real games implies that the other ones are not.  That bothers me obviously.  I understand that central and ozen are not brought up.  But I brought them up because you and dove are fans of theirs and I was simply making a point.  If you think that is "real" basketball than so are the 1a and 2a state tournament games. [/quote] You've never heard me say Ozen , Central , or HJ is mighty or real basketball  :D I'm referring to Kimball, Ft. bEND Travis, etc, These schools have players who may be future NBA stars. Kentucky ain't looking at no players from White Oak, Clarksville, and whatever other school in 1-a, 2-a, etc. [/quote] So, unless there are a multitude of D-1 players on the floor, it is not real basketball? [/quote] Good point grad. However, there are a few who seem to think that way.  :-\

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1195104" timestamp="1331326066"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=97341.msg1195095#msg1195095 date=1331325322] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195058#msg1195058 date=1331321694] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=97341.msg1195052#msg1195052 date=1331321296] You are not getting my point.  What I am saying is some of these 1a and 2a teams could give those two a game if not beat them.  So if the 1a 2a teams that can compete with mighty ozen and central than that must not be "real" basketball either! [/quote]By you stating that Ozen and Central are 'mighty' and no one made mention of them but you tells me a lot.  ::) ::) As I've said before, We're not talking about Central or Ozen (seems you're obsessed with talking about them.  Heck, in this conversation, we're not even talking about Silsbee or H-J).  BD3 made mention of calling the Yates/Kimbal and Marcus/Travis games 'real' games.  I agreed.  So, do you understand now? [/quote] What makes them 'real games'? [b]The fact that they are more 'athletic' meaning they are better teams?? [/b] We've heard that all year long. We even had a thread discussing what factors make a HS kid 'good'. It seems that if one is not 'athletic', then he's not a very good bball player in some's opinions. [/quote]Well, you're the one that said it.  ;D ;D 8) 8) [/quote] No. It's a question. Hence the '??'  8)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1195058" timestamp="1331321694"] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=97341.msg1195052#msg1195052 date=1331321296] You are not getting my point.  What I am saying is some of these 1a and 2a teams could give those two a game if not beat them.  So if the 1a 2a teams that can compete with mighty ozen and central than that must not be "real" basketball either! [/quote]By you stating that Ozen and Central are 'mighty' and no one made mention of them but you tells me a lot.  ::) ::) As I've said before, We're not talking about Central or Ozen (seems you're obsessed with talking about them.  Heck, in this conversation, we're not even talking about Silsbee or H-J).  BD3 made mention of calling the Yates/Kimbal and Marcus/Travis games 'real' games.  I agreed.  So, do you understand now? [/quote] What makes them 'real games'? The fact that they are more 'athletic' meaning they are better teams?? We've heard that all year long. We even had a thread discussing what factors make a HS kid 'good'. It seems that if one is not 'athletic', then he's not a very good bball player in some's opinions.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1194861" timestamp="1331308509"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=97120.msg1194857#msg1194857 date=1331308186] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97120.msg1194784#msg1194784 date=1331304304] [quote author=homeless link=topic=97120.msg1193929#msg1193929 date=1331170568] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=97120.msg1192523#msg1192523 date=1330971268] wow is all i can say about coach of the year. I believe English should have gotten this.  Had less to work with, lost alot of seniors and no one expected them to do as good as they did. [/quote] Yes, English.....and not even a close call [/quote]Explain. [/quote] More with less....simple. It should have not even been CLOSE...Brian English is THE coach of the year in 20-4A...Nothing to do with standings as much as accomplishment...I think the HF coach should have been COY in that district, and they came in 3rd... [/quote]I agree with you on that Central's coaching staff have been lackluster for most of the year.  but 2 out of 3 wins, it appeared that the Nederland Staff was outcoached.  2 out of 3  against a superior coaching staff?  What does that say? [/quote] Lackluster?? Heck Soulja, u have been tearing up Ur coach all year! Now u are defending him as to why he deserved COTY?? Does 1 or 2 games in which Central wins overlook the other games when u told all of us he just sits there with no plan? Help me understand, bc I am confused?? ??? DV's point (and others, but they are not credible like DV ;) ) is that central was expected to win Distrixt with all the talent returning from last year (including a top 3 player in Smith) and Nederland lost EVERyTHING from last year except 2 letterman who were Fresh and Soph last year. So English did MORE with LESS!

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1194604" timestamp="1331262510"] end of 1st Ryan      15 Yates      26 [/quote] Will total 164 points at this pace.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1193643" timestamp="1331128591"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=97225.msg1193608#msg1193608 date=1331099836] [quote author=killingmesmalls link=topic=97225.msg1193604#msg1193604 date=1331096961] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=97225.msg1193589#msg1193589 date=1331093461] man, this is the best time of the year. The real season starts now ;D [/quote] I thought he was refering to the real season of BASEBALL! 8)  You know, the game where you have to have skills to hit a round ball traveling 80-90 mph with a round bat.  Yes sir, the reason season starts now!  ;D [/quote] Yawn!!  ::) ::) [/quote]Ooops! Didn't see your post. LOL! Mutual agreement [/quote] 8) 8)

1A DI [b]Clarksville[/b] vs. Olton [b]Mumford[/b] vs. Kerens Champion: Mumford 1A DII [b]Lennorah Grady[/b] vs. Graford [b]Roxton[/b] vs. Calvert Champion: Roxton 2A San Antonio Cole vs. [b]Brock[/b] [b]White Oak[/b] vs. Idalou Champion: White Oak 3A [b]Lubbock Estacado[/b] vs. Argyle [b]Waco La Vega[/b] vs. Corpus Christi Miller Champion: Waco La Vega 4A San Antonio Alamo Heights vs. [b]Dallas Kimball[/b] [b]Houston Yates[/b] vs. Denton Ryan Champion: Houston Yates 5A Northside Warren vs. [b]Fort Bend Travis[/b] [b]Flower Mound Marcus[/b] vs. Garland Naaman Forest Champions: Marcus Tiebreaker: Houston Yates/Denton Ryan Total Points: 166

[quote name="killingmesmalls" post="1193604" timestamp="1331096961"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=97225.msg1193589#msg1193589 date=1331093461] man, this is the best time of the year. The real season starts now ;D [/quote] I thought he was refering to the real season of BASEBALL! 8)  You know, the game where you have to have skills to hit a round ball traveling 80-90 mph with a round bat.  Yes sir, the reason season starts now!  ;D [/quote] Yawn!!  ::) ::)

I did that at least 100 times over my career and never got T-d Up!  ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1192999" timestamp="1331008790"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=97120.msg1192993#msg1192993 date=1331008387] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=97120.msg1192743#msg1192743 date=1330991058] I'm guessing the other coaches simply got tired of Coach E winning COTY. Sorry, but he deserved it AGAIN this year too. [/quote] Thinking the same thing.  :-\ Return [b]0 starters[/b] from last year (only 2 Lettermen), yet win 29 games and Co-District Champs, Bi-District and Area Champs??  ??? [/quote] The Bi-district and Area champs is meaningless when it comes to all district selections. The picks are made before the playoffs start. [/quote] Yes, I'm well aware of that!  ;) 29 wins with [b]0 Returning starters[/b] and Co-District Champs??  ???

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1192743" timestamp="1330991058"] I'm guessing the other coaches simply got tired of Coach E winning COTY. Sorry, but he deserved it AGAIN this year too. [/quote] Thinking the same thing.  :-\ Return [b]0 starters[/b] from last year (only 2 Lettermen), yet win 29 games and Co-District Champs, Bi-District and Area Champs??  ??? 

HJ will be fine. HJ doesn't rebuild, they RE-LOAD!!  ;D

Congrats to all the kids who were recognized. COTY, seriously??

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1192372" timestamp="1330956786"] HJ has nothing to be ashamed of but I do understand how high the bar is set in their program. Regionals and State trips are the goals [color=red]*unlike a certain 4-A school in Mid-County where winning district is their ultimate goal ::) ;D[/color] I guarantee there are many other schools wishing they could have had the run HJ had this year. Turn your pain into the momentum for next season's championship run. NOW! Just think what could have been if yall played a harder schedule? ** Now you know I could not leave "well enough alone."  :D ;D [/quote] BD3-The season is less than a week over and U start with that WEAK comment (started by an insinuation by DV  ::) ) to drag me into discussing 'Ultimate Goals'! Lord it's gonna be a long Spring/Summer.  ;D 8) TBH, I have no clue what Ned's Ultimate Goal may be. I would have to presume that Winning District is ONE of their team goals (as most teams probably have), but the Ultimate Goal would be the same as MOST teams (I would hope  ??? )? I'm sure every season provides different goals depending on the previous years success and returning players. I would guess that Ned's goals will be much higher next year than they were this year after losing so much. The same goes for Silsbee, HJ, Ozen, and Central. I would guess that Silsbee will probably have higher expectations than anyone considering all they are returning next year.

[Hidden Content] Looks like it's actually ALL classifications.

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It was said that FB Travis recruits as does The Woodlands. I have no way of proving it either way, and I doubt anyone does. However, the reason people don't bring it up, IMO, is bc if you look at FB teams, Travis is not the ONLY good team. Last year it was FB Hightower and FB Bush. Same as The Woodlands. TW now has TWHS and TW College Park. BOTH schools are very good. If you go watch TW schools, they usually don't have phenomenal 'stand out' players. They usually don't have D1 players on their basketball team. They are fundamentally sound, so the idea that recruiting is going on is unlikely. Now take a look at the other schools in Yates' District. They are very unimpressive. Some of the schools in that district losing to Yates by 100++!! In addition, Yates was the only school this year to make it out of the 2nd round in the playoffs. It seems that Yates attracts the best talent in that district, and the other schools get the left overs per se.

[quote name="CATMAN" post="1191912" timestamp="1330828539"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=97065.msg1191689#msg1191689 date=1330817565] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=97065.msg1191549#msg1191549 date=1330804729] Fort Bend Travis            57 Fort Bend Hightower        34      F Travis advances to Austin!! (my pick to win it all) [/quote] So you think the twins can take Marcus Smart & Co. ? I can't decide. The close call for Marcus may be just what they need for a wake up call. But Travis has been playing WAAAAY tougher competition thru the year (district).....but some here put no stock at all in playing tough schedules. Have you seen both teams play? I haven't seen Marcus against tough competiton this year, just blowouts, so hard to evaluate at this level. [/quote] I have watch Marcus play 4 games @ the pasadena tour. and one on espn they have play alot of very good teams they win there games on def. [/quote] Marcus won a huge AAU tournament this past summer, they will not lose a state championship.

Final: Yates 112 Jones 83

Half: Yates 62 Jones 37

Ozen losing their BIGS from this year, so I could see them playing a 'Silsbee style' of play which has been very effective doe them so far this year. Ozen had a few 'BIGS' in JV though too.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1191481" timestamp="1330799062"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=97049.msg1191476#msg1191476 date=1330798812] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=97049.msg1191469#msg1191469 date=1330798010] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=97049.msg1191465#msg1191465 date=1330797569] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=97049.msg1191455#msg1191455 date=1330796623] Nope...they just beat them...The horse is dead, already.. ::) [/quote] DV, if you were of Indian (American) descent, you would be named 'One who beats Dead Horse"!  ;D [/quote] Yeah? Well that may be true, but Nederland's name would be "[b]team-that-will-not-win-district-next-season[/b]"! ;D ;D ;D...I know, I know...I couldn't resist! [/quote] Where to begin, where to begin?? I could go with: 1. The same EXACT thing was said last year, and look what happened! Please keep on saying these comments, bc u may think you are being an annoying horsefly, but u are just fueling the fire for our boys to work harder and get better (are you sure you're not going to coach at Ned next year)?  ;D 2. Since when is winning District (in your book) a topic worth discussion??  ??? 3. When you have nothing in response, try to cut the opponent down to deter the topic in a different direction (as Nash would say- typical Liberal move).  8) [/quote] I don't know about everybody else, but THATS why I do it.... ::) ::)...Motivation for the dogs!! ;D...Its all apart of my plan to join Coach English's staff and DOMINATE 20-4A next season!! 8) [/quote] U crazy man!!  ;D ;D ;D  8)