Honest Abe

[quote name="east texas bb" post="1172259" timestamp="1328391823"] I know it is a little North, but is still East Texas, but at Troup my senior year we finished a 10-11 year district winning streak, right at 148 straight district games I believe without a loss.  The next year Troup was down a little and lost the streak.  That was 88-98 or 87-98. They also at that time (I bet it is broken now) but they had the National HS most 3 pointers in a game certification, plaque and all, it was pretty cool.  I believe it was 23 (3's). [/quote] That's pretty cool. I remember a few of those Troup Tiger teams. Fun to watch!

Silsbee and Lincoln were NOT in the same district in 88 or 89/90. So I don't know what u mean by them being in the same district until 1990.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1172247" timestamp="1328391028"] [quote author=baddog link=topic=95474.msg1172244#msg1172244 date=1328390655] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95474.msg1172224#msg1172224 date=1328388027] PA Lincoln went undefeated in district play from 1985-2002... ::)    ::).......You think they were jumping up and down after 29 district wins on a row?  ::) [/quote] Who gives a crap if they were jumping up and down? You can't even get it right anyway. I assume you are jumping up and down from this one victory. Like I said, I compare to our past records. Who gives a crap about 30 year old games? I am constantly reminded of not living in the past. [/quote] Well, your fellow Bulldog fan did start this thread asking for comparisons, so therefore the comparisons. ::) [/quote] I was just curious about other school's win streaks. However, Dickie V has a need to make himself stand out bc of his insecurities. He directs every thread in a direction to make everyone look in the past at what he helped accomplish to make him feel better about himself. He doesn't want to talk about success unless it involves him.  :-\

Just curious how Neserland's 29 game District winning streak stacks up amongst other streaks in our area? Dickie V, I know Ozen had a long streak that U mentioned a few times, how long was it? Has Silsbee, HJ, or Kountze had long District winning streaks in the past 15-20 years? I'm sure Kountze has a few long streaks. Anyone have some numbers?

Speaking of FB, would you (Soulja) rather see the Central FB or BB team win? Obviously you want both, just curious which sport you have more passion (or care about more)? How about Central fans in general? I would rather see our bball team be more successful, but the entire town of Nederland is (obviously) more passionate about FB.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1172100" timestamp="1328371848"] I wouldnt be surprised if this isnt just one of those games that makes you refocus on the real goal.. District Championship! Going undefeated is tough and a harder to do each week you get closer to that goal happening.. Dont like to lose, but this might not be a bad loss.. Lesson to be learned from this.. Just because you show up to the gym, doesnt mean you are going to win.. Lets go Dogs! [/quote] Great assessment. I agree with a lot of what u have said about this game. I know you were not at the game, but you understand the game and this team's mentality and capabilities. I'm sure the kids put extra pressure on themselves with trying to remain undefeated in district and keeping the 29 game streak alive. Now that the streak is broken, they can focus on winning district and making a run in the playoffs. A similar situation occurred with HJ a few weeks ago. They had extra pressure being undefeated AND ranked #1 in state 3A. After Silsbee defeated them a few weeks ago, I believe they can now be more focused on their more important goal (being undefeated is rarely a main goal for a team). As Stevenash said on another thread, no reason whatsoever to push the panic button. Just get back to work and come out next game with a new focus. Geaux Dawgs!!

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1172092" timestamp="1328370868"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1172086#msg date=1328370311] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1172063#msg date=1328367472] They shot poorly because of fast close outs on the 3 point line.  Nederland is a spot shooter team.  If you run them off their spot and watch the quick dump off pass to their bigs, you will have the advantage. Now, Central did shoot HORRIBLE from the charity stripe.  Now that's something that Nederland had no bearing on. We had a bearing on their poor FG shooting. [/quote] Missing wide open 3s is not considered good D. Good D was played on Weisbrod, however. We shoot our average from 3-land, and Central is forced to cover Ned outside which would have allowed Weisbrod and English to do their thing. Nobody ever got going from outside, so it was effective. I don't see us shooting that poorly against Ozen. [/quote]Nederland did pass up quite a few open 3 point shots due to the face that Central was able to close out on them faster than they were obviously expecting.  I've seen Nederland play more than once and they are the type of team if they are open or is feeling it, they will go 'bombs away'. This is just my observation. [/quote] We did pass up a bunch of open 3s bc we were not hitting them early, therefore, not 'feeling it'. I've played enough basketball in my life to know that you have to shoot through the cold spells, most HS kids don't understand that yet.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1172063" timestamp="1328367472"] They shot poorly because of fast close outs on the 3 point line.  Nederland is a spot shooter team.  If you run them off their spot and watch the quick dump off pass to their bigs, you will have the advantage. Now, Central did shoot HORRIBLE from the charity stripe.  Now that's something that Nederland had no bearing on. We had a bearing on their poor FG shooting. [/quote] Missing wide open 3s is not considered good D. Good D was played on Weisbrod, however. We shoot our average from 3-land, and Central is forced to cover Ned outside which would have allowed Weisbrod and English to do their thing. Nobody ever got going from outside, so it was effective. I don't see us shooting 9 for 39 against Ozen.

[move][size=24pt]29!!!![/size][/move] The number is still 29 Dickie V! That is something you can't take away from the program and community.  ;) This is a special group of kids. Being 25-6 and 10-1 during a rebuilding year is not too shabby at this point of the season. There is work to be done, and I believe in these kids and Coach E. Good luck on demoralizing someone else.  ;)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1171930" timestamp="1328329111"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171906#msg date=1328328208] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1171895#msg date=1328327855] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171890#msg date=1328327499] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1171880#msg date=1328327141] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=95450.msg1171863#msg date=1328326439] Heard some class was shown at the end of the game too.. ::) Chants of "over-rated" and the announcer joining in? Hahaha!! [/quote]Yes, I heard that.  That announcer is a fast car salesman type guy.  I don't like him announcing the game.  He started and the student section joined in.  I have to admit, it was funny.  Me and and rest of the Jag fans did not get involved. [/quote] I was told the school principal was involved as well. I don't know what he looks like, it's just what I over heard someone say. I sure hope he wasn't one of them. [/quote]I didn't see the principal at all.  The AD was there, though. [/quote] Maybe that's who they were talking about. IMO, there is nothing wrong with the kids and fans cheering that. They are just enjoying the victory, as they should bc it has been a while since we lost a district game to Central. [/quote]True, but it does feel sweet, especially at this time of year. [/quote]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1171900" timestamp="1328328000"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171893#msg1171893 date=1328327658] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=95450.msg1171888#msg1171888 date=1328327400] Nothing was done that was out of line. It was just an intense hard fought high school basketball game. And if you think the refs affected the outcome of the game you are crazy. Nederland just got beat tonight. [/quote] [b]Who said anything about the refs??[/b] We got out played, it's that simple. [/quote] You might want to check out juggie's post above. A couple of posts earlier. [/quote] Oh, didn't see it. The refs called a loose game, and allowed the kids to play. Very physical game. A few team's have played this type of D against us this year, and we normally shoot our way out of it. Didn't happen tonight. Coach Lee's plan was to not allow English or Weisbrod to beat them, and it worked. English made every shot he took (3), and Weisbrod was held to 1 point! Somebody else needs to step up!  :-\

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1171895" timestamp="1328327855"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171890#msg date=1328327499] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1171880#msg date=1328327141] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=95450.msg1171863#msg date=1328326439] Heard some class was shown at the end of the game too.. ::) Chants of "over-rated" and the announcer joining in? Hahaha!! [/quote]Yes, I heard that.  That announcer is a fast car salesman type guy.  I don't like him announcing the game.  He started and the student section joined in.  I have to admit, it was funny.  Me and and rest of the Jag fans did not get involved. [/quote] I was told the school principal was involved as well. I don't know what he looks like, it's just what I over heard someone say. I sure hope he wasn't one of them. [/quote]I didn't see the principal at all.  The AD was there, though. [/quote] Maybe that's who they were talking about. IMO, there is nothing wrong with the kids and fans cheering that. They are just enjoying the victory, as they should bc it has been a while since we lost a district game to Central.

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="1171888" timestamp="1328327400"] Nothing was done that was out of line. It was just an intense hard fought high school basketball game. And if you think the refs affected the outcome of the game you are crazy. Nederland just got beat tonight. [/quote] Who said anything about the refs?? We got out played, it's that simple.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1171880" timestamp="1328327141"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=95450.msg1171863#msg date=1328326439] Heard some class was shown at the end of the game too.. ::) Chants of "over-rated" and the announcer joining in? Hahaha!! [/quote]Yes, I heard that.  That announcer is a fast car salesman type guy.  I don't like him announcing the game.  He started and the student section joined in.  I have to admit, it was funny.  Me and and rest of the Jag fans did not get involved. [/quote] I was told the school principal was involved as well. I don't know what he looks like, it's just what I over heard someone say. I sure hope he wasn't one of them.

Soulja-I am expecting to hear some praises from you about your coach. He had his team prepared for the game tonight. Props to Coach Lee!

The Jags wanted it more. They played with a sense of urgency. Congrats on the W. Need to refocus and learn from this game. Still one thing that can't be taken away from us: [move][size=18pt]29!!![/size][/move]

Since Central is playing a triangle in 2, Lormier and Lubera need to step it up.

Very physical game. Ned played a horrible 1st half but only down by 5. Those shots will start to fall in the second half. Will probably be a couple of techs as well if the refs continue to allow them to play.

Let's do this Dawgs!!

No way Silsbee loses after Tuesday's loss to HJ. It may be close for a while, and home court will help the Mustangs, but the Tigers will turn it on and bring home the W.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1171312" timestamp="1328292734"] [b]Dick Vitale picking Nederland on the Basketball pickems[/b]. What's up with that? And don't even try to say that you think Central will win but not cover the spread. We wont buy that  ;) ;D [/quote] WHAT??  ??? ??? :o :o

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[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1170951" timestamp="1328228445"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95269.msg1170944#msg date=1328227780] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95269.msg1170938#msg date=1328227164] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170917#msg date=1328225075] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=95269.msg1170901#msg date=1328223688] I said it before...Central's team and coaches will feel the pressure in a close game in the 4th, will not make the adjustments, will not make the plays, will not make free throws, Nederland will play disciplined, smart ball.....and will win by 10 [/quote] But so many are saying that Central is so much more talented that the talent will trump disciplined, smart ball.  Right Dove?  ( I just can't figure out why that same talent did not prevail in the first game) [/quote]It did prevail in the first game. Central won it by 3 on Nederland's floor.  Nederland won the second matchup in district on their floor. [/quote] Talent did NOT win the 1st game for Central. Nederland lost their cool MENTALLY, and it cost them the game. Nederland stayed mentally focused in the game that counts (district game) and won big. *See my post from a few days ago regarding what happened: Quote Remember though, Ned was up by 14 in that game in the middle of the 2nd Q, then this happened: -Central made a bucket, lead 12 -Central steals ball (no foul called), Ned player gets upset. Tech called. -Central makes both FTs, lead 10 -Central makes 2 more FTs from the foul, lead 8 -Central makes a 2 point shot, lead 6 -Ned misses a shot on the other end. -Central makes 2 more, lead down to 4 for Ned. All of the sudden, it's halftime, and Central has the momentum and is PUMPED! Ned heads to the locker room with heads down and demoralized. End Quote. The 1st meeting was heading toward a blowout win by Ned.the Dawgs don't make that mistake tomorrow night. Central's home court edge will keep it close. Ned wins 47-42 [/quote]They lost mentally to an undermaned Central team that suited only 8 players with the star player K. Smith missing?  Really? [/quote] K. Smith was NOT missing!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170952" timestamp="1328228552"] Look, here is the problem. Until Nederland wins a regional title, they will not be taken seriously.  :D [/quote] I think you're right, and I predict it will happen next year.  ;)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1170951" timestamp="1328228445"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95269.msg1170944#msg date=1328227780] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95269.msg1170938#msg date=1328227164] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=95269.msg1170917#msg date=1328225075] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=95269.msg1170901#msg date=1328223688] I said it before...Central's team and coaches will feel the pressure in a close game in the 4th, will not make the adjustments, will not make the plays, will not make free throws, Nederland will play disciplined, smart ball.....and will win by 10 [/quote] But so many are saying that Central is so much more talented that the talent will trump disciplined, smart ball.  Right Dove?  ( I just can't figure out why that same talent did not prevail in the first game) [/quote]It did prevail in the first game. Central won it by 3 on Nederland's floor.  Nederland won the second matchup in district on their floor. [/quote] Talent did NOT win the 1st game for Central. Nederland lost their cool MENTALLY, and it cost them the game. Nederland stayed mentally focused in the game that counts (district game) and won big. *See my post from a few days ago regarding what happened: Quote Remember though, Ned was up by 14 in that game in the middle of the 2nd Q, then this happened: -Central made a bucket, lead 12 -Central steals ball (no foul called), Ned player gets upset. Tech called. -Central makes both FTs, lead 10 -Central makes 2 more FTs from the foul, lead 8 -Central makes a 2 point shot, lead 6 -Ned misses a shot on the other end. -Central makes 2 more, lead down to 4 for Ned. All of the sudden, it's halftime, and Central has the momentum and is PUMPED! Ned heads to the locker room with heads down and demoralized. End Quote. The 1st meeting was heading toward a blowout win by Ned.the Dawgs don't make that mistake tomorrow night. Central's home court edge will keep it close. Ned wins 47-42 [/quote]They lost mentally to an undermaned Central team that suited only 8 players with the star player K. Smith missing?  Really? [/quote] Regardless of who was on the court, Nederland lost that game Mentally. That is what this conversation is about, right? Central is deep enough (in talent) that it really shouldn't matter which 5 were on the court.  You've been saying all year that they have all kind of talent, but the coaching is poor. Can't have it both ways.