Honest Abe

[quote name="NB-Dawg" post="1172308" timestamp="1328397767"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95474.msg1172300#msg1172300 date=1328396423] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95474.msg1172291#msg1172291 date=1328395218] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95474.msg1172283#msg1172283 date=1328394016] NB-Dawg, come on man....don't get upset ...insecurities? I have none....I was simply answering your question...Is it that you thought the Nederland streak was special? Sorry to burst your bubble, but its been done before...29 district wins is commendable...but you people were acting like it was earth shattering, and it was not...its over now, so hopefully your team can refocus, and take care of business in the coming weeks....insecure? Are you kidding me?....  ::) [/quote] Actually, it's never been done in Nederland DV, so we are soaking it up. You can't stand for Nederland to be doing so well, it's comical! There is no bubble to burst, bc we are happy campers in Mid County. We are 25-6 in a rebuilding year!  :o  [/quote] They haven't done anything NB.... ::).. Yes they are playing well and will likely win district 20-4A for a second straight year...I am glad Coach E has them going in the right direction...That is a great accomplishment for Nederland...MY point was it was done like that to the 10th power, and no issue was made from it as it has this season...It was done at Ozen so regularly, that it was the EXPECTATION. Lincoln too...I don't think that the PORT ARTHUR News EVER mentioned Lincoln's YEARS OF CONSECUTIVE DISTRICT WINS, as much as they have Nederland's short lived run....I guess I DO have issue with THAT, but its not personal....I wish Nederland luck this season, going forward....I think they have a great coach... he is a good guy, and I consider him to be a personal friend....and has been for the last 12 years...relax... 8) [/quote] It's all about perspective DV. Didn't say we've accomplished anything yet did I? I said we are enjoying our current success bc we haven't had any for 50+ years until recently. May not be success in your book, but it's success for a program that lived in the dweller for so many years. I think most teams who are in a rebuilding year (even HJ, [b]Silsbee, Kountze) would be ok sitting at 25-6 at this time of the season.[/b] [/quote] Oh wait, Silsbee is at 20-7 and Kountze is 24-8 this season (both in a 'rebuilding year')!  ::)

[quote name="rc2182" post="1172404" timestamp="1328451447"] HJ AND SILSBEE ARE THE ONLY TWO TEAMS WITH A REALISTIC CHANCE AT GOING TO STATE, AND OZEN GIRLS OF COURSE,AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY (OZEN GIRLS ) WILL WIN STATE. [/quote] How about the B Hill girls? Are they good enough to knock out Ozen?

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1172300" timestamp="1328396423"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95474.msg1172291#msg1172291 date=1328395218] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95474.msg1172283#msg1172283 date=1328394016] NB-Dawg, come on man....don't get upset ...insecurities? I have none....I was simply answering your question...Is it that you thought the Nederland streak was special? Sorry to burst your bubble, but its been done before...29 district wins is commendable...but you people were acting like it was earth shattering, and it was not...its over now, so hopefully your team can refocus, and take care of business in the coming weeks....insecure? Are you kidding me?....  ::) [/quote] Actually, it's never been done in Nederland DV, so we are soaking it up. You can't stand for Nederland to be doing so well, it's comical! There is no bubble to burst, bc we are happy campers in Mid County. We are 25-6 in a rebuilding year!  :o  [/quote] They haven't done anything NB.... ::).. Yes they are playing well and will likely win district 20-4A for a second straight year...I am glad Coach E has them going in the right direction...That is a great accomplishment for Nederland...MY point was it was done like that to the 10th power, and no issue was made from it as it has this season...It was done at Ozen so regularly, that it was the EXPECTATION. Lincoln too...I don't think that the PORT ARTHUR News EVER mentioned Lincoln's YEARS OF CONSECUTIVE DISTRICT WINS, as much as they have Nederland's short lived run....I guess I DO have issue with THAT, but its not personal....I wish Nederland luck this season, going forward....I think they have a great coach... he is a good guy, and I consider him to be a personal friend....and has been for the last 12 years...relax... 8) [/quote] It's all about perspective DV. Didn't say we've accomplished anything yet did I? I said we are enjoying our current success bc we haven't had any for 50+ years until recently. May not be success in your book, but it's success for a program that lived in the dweller for so many years. I think most teams who are in a rebuilding year (even HJ, Silsbee, Kountze) would be ok sitting at 25-6 at this time of the season.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1172283" timestamp="1328394016"] NB-Dawg, come on man....don't get upset ...insecurities? I have none....I was simply answering your question...Is it that you thought the Nederland streak was special? Sorry to burst your bubble, but its been done before...29 district wins is commendable...but you people were acting like it was earth shattering, and it was not...its over now, so hopefully your team can refocus, and take care of business in the coming weeks....insecure? Are you kidding me?....  ::) [/quote] Actually, it's never been done in Nederland DV, so we are soaking it up. You can't stand for Nederland to be doing so well, it's comical! There is no bubble to burst, bc we are happy campers in Mid County. We are 25-6 in a rebuilding year!  :o 

[quote name="east texas bb" post="1172259" timestamp="1328391823"] I know it is a little North, but is still East Texas, but at Troup my senior year we finished a 10-11 year district winning streak, right at 148 straight district games I believe without a loss.  The next year Troup was down a little and lost the streak.  That was 88-98 or 87-98. They also at that time (I bet it is broken now) but they had the National HS most 3 pointers in a game certification, plaque and all, it was pretty cool.  I believe it was 23 (3's). [/quote] That's pretty cool. I remember a few of those Troup Tiger teams. Fun to watch!

Silsbee and Lincoln were NOT in the same district in 88 or 89/90. So I don't know what u mean by them being in the same district until 1990.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1172247" timestamp="1328391028"] [quote author=baddog link=topic=95474.msg1172244#msg1172244 date=1328390655] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95474.msg1172224#msg1172224 date=1328388027] PA Lincoln went undefeated in district play from 1985-2002... ::)    ::).......You think they were jumping up and down after 29 district wins on a row?  ::) [/quote] Who gives a crap if they were jumping up and down? You can't even get it right anyway. I assume you are jumping up and down from this one victory. Like I said, I compare to our past records. Who gives a crap about 30 year old games? I am constantly reminded of not living in the past. [/quote] Well, your fellow Bulldog fan did start this thread asking for comparisons, so therefore the comparisons. ::) [/quote] I was just curious about other school's win streaks. However, Dickie V has a need to make himself stand out bc of his insecurities. He directs every thread in a direction to make everyone look in the past at what he helped accomplish to make him feel better about himself. He doesn't want to talk about success unless it involves him.  :-\

Just curious how Neserland's 29 game District winning streak stacks up amongst other streaks in our area? Dickie V, I know Ozen had a long streak that U mentioned a few times, how long was it? Has Silsbee, HJ, or Kountze had long District winning streaks in the past 15-20 years? I'm sure Kountze has a few long streaks. Anyone have some numbers?

Speaking of FB, would you (Soulja) rather see the Central FB or BB team win? Obviously you want both, just curious which sport you have more passion (or care about more)? How about Central fans in general? I would rather see our bball team be more successful, but the entire town of Nederland is (obviously) more passionate about FB.

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1172100" timestamp="1328371848"] I wouldnt be surprised if this isnt just one of those games that makes you refocus on the real goal.. District Championship! Going undefeated is tough and a harder to do each week you get closer to that goal happening.. Dont like to lose, but this might not be a bad loss.. Lesson to be learned from this.. Just because you show up to the gym, doesnt mean you are going to win.. Lets go Dogs! [/quote] Great assessment. I agree with a lot of what u have said about this game. I know you were not at the game, but you understand the game and this team's mentality and capabilities. I'm sure the kids put extra pressure on themselves with trying to remain undefeated in district and keeping the 29 game streak alive. Now that the streak is broken, they can focus on winning district and making a run in the playoffs. A similar situation occurred with HJ a few weeks ago. They had extra pressure being undefeated AND ranked #1 in state 3A. After Silsbee defeated them a few weeks ago, I believe they can now be more focused on their more important goal (being undefeated is rarely a main goal for a team). As Stevenash said on another thread, no reason whatsoever to push the panic button. Just get back to work and come out next game with a new focus. Geaux Dawgs!!

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1172092" timestamp="1328370868"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1172086#msg date=1328370311] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1172063#msg date=1328367472] They shot poorly because of fast close outs on the 3 point line.  Nederland is a spot shooter team.  If you run them off their spot and watch the quick dump off pass to their bigs, you will have the advantage. Now, Central did shoot HORRIBLE from the charity stripe.  Now that's something that Nederland had no bearing on. We had a bearing on their poor FG shooting. [/quote] Missing wide open 3s is not considered good D. Good D was played on Weisbrod, however. We shoot our average from 3-land, and Central is forced to cover Ned outside which would have allowed Weisbrod and English to do their thing. Nobody ever got going from outside, so it was effective. I don't see us shooting that poorly against Ozen. [/quote]Nederland did pass up quite a few open 3 point shots due to the face that Central was able to close out on them faster than they were obviously expecting.  I've seen Nederland play more than once and they are the type of team if they are open or is feeling it, they will go 'bombs away'. This is just my observation. [/quote] We did pass up a bunch of open 3s bc we were not hitting them early, therefore, not 'feeling it'. I've played enough basketball in my life to know that you have to shoot through the cold spells, most HS kids don't understand that yet.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1172063" timestamp="1328367472"] They shot poorly because of fast close outs on the 3 point line.  Nederland is a spot shooter team.  If you run them off their spot and watch the quick dump off pass to their bigs, you will have the advantage. Now, Central did shoot HORRIBLE from the charity stripe.  Now that's something that Nederland had no bearing on. We had a bearing on their poor FG shooting. [/quote] Missing wide open 3s is not considered good D. Good D was played on Weisbrod, however. We shoot our average from 3-land, and Central is forced to cover Ned outside which would have allowed Weisbrod and English to do their thing. Nobody ever got going from outside, so it was effective. I don't see us shooting 9 for 39 against Ozen.

[move][size=24pt]29!!!![/size][/move] The number is still 29 Dickie V! That is something you can't take away from the program and community.  ;) This is a special group of kids. Being 25-6 and 10-1 during a rebuilding year is not too shabby at this point of the season. There is work to be done, and I believe in these kids and Coach E. Good luck on demoralizing someone else.  ;)

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1171930" timestamp="1328329111"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171906#msg date=1328328208] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1171895#msg date=1328327855] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171890#msg date=1328327499] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1171880#msg date=1328327141] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=95450.msg1171863#msg date=1328326439] Heard some class was shown at the end of the game too.. ::) Chants of "over-rated" and the announcer joining in? Hahaha!! [/quote]Yes, I heard that.  That announcer is a fast car salesman type guy.  I don't like him announcing the game.  He started and the student section joined in.  I have to admit, it was funny.  Me and and rest of the Jag fans did not get involved. [/quote] I was told the school principal was involved as well. I don't know what he looks like, it's just what I over heard someone say. I sure hope he wasn't one of them. [/quote]I didn't see the principal at all.  The AD was there, though. [/quote] Maybe that's who they were talking about. IMO, there is nothing wrong with the kids and fans cheering that. They are just enjoying the victory, as they should bc it has been a while since we lost a district game to Central. [/quote]True, but it does feel sweet, especially at this time of year. [/quote]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1171900" timestamp="1328328000"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171893#msg1171893 date=1328327658] [quote author=ForeverADog link=topic=95450.msg1171888#msg1171888 date=1328327400] Nothing was done that was out of line. It was just an intense hard fought high school basketball game. And if you think the refs affected the outcome of the game you are crazy. Nederland just got beat tonight. [/quote] [b]Who said anything about the refs??[/b] We got out played, it's that simple. [/quote] You might want to check out juggie's post above. A couple of posts earlier. [/quote] Oh, didn't see it. The refs called a loose game, and allowed the kids to play. Very physical game. A few team's have played this type of D against us this year, and we normally shoot our way out of it. Didn't happen tonight. Coach Lee's plan was to not allow English or Weisbrod to beat them, and it worked. English made every shot he took (3), and Weisbrod was held to 1 point! Somebody else needs to step up!  :-\

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1171895" timestamp="1328327855"] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95450.msg1171890#msg date=1328327499] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95450.msg1171880#msg date=1328327141] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=95450.msg1171863#msg date=1328326439] Heard some class was shown at the end of the game too.. ::) Chants of "over-rated" and the announcer joining in? Hahaha!! [/quote]Yes, I heard that.  That announcer is a fast car salesman type guy.  I don't like him announcing the game.  He started and the student section joined in.  I have to admit, it was funny.  Me and and rest of the Jag fans did not get involved. [/quote] I was told the school principal was involved as well. I don't know what he looks like, it's just what I over heard someone say. I sure hope he wasn't one of them. [/quote]I didn't see the principal at all.  The AD was there, though. [/quote] Maybe that's who they were talking about. IMO, there is nothing wrong with the kids and fans cheering that. They are just enjoying the victory, as they should bc it has been a while since we lost a district game to Central.

[quote name="ForeverADog" post="1171888" timestamp="1328327400"] Nothing was done that was out of line. It was just an intense hard fought high school basketball game. And if you think the refs affected the outcome of the game you are crazy. Nederland just got beat tonight. [/quote] Who said anything about the refs?? We got out played, it's that simple.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1171880" timestamp="1328327141"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=95450.msg1171863#msg date=1328326439] Heard some class was shown at the end of the game too.. ::) Chants of "over-rated" and the announcer joining in? Hahaha!! [/quote]Yes, I heard that.  That announcer is a fast car salesman type guy.  I don't like him announcing the game.  He started and the student section joined in.  I have to admit, it was funny.  Me and and rest of the Jag fans did not get involved. [/quote] I was told the school principal was involved as well. I don't know what he looks like, it's just what I over heard someone say. I sure hope he wasn't one of them.

Soulja-I am expecting to hear some praises from you about your coach. He had his team prepared for the game tonight. Props to Coach Lee!

The Jags wanted it more. They played with a sense of urgency. Congrats on the W. Need to refocus and learn from this game. Still one thing that can't be taken away from us: [move][size=18pt]29!!![/size][/move]

Since Central is playing a triangle in 2, Lormier and Lubera need to step it up.

Very physical game. Ned played a horrible 1st half but only down by 5. Those shots will start to fall in the second half. Will probably be a couple of techs as well if the refs continue to allow them to play.

Let's do this Dawgs!!

No way Silsbee loses after Tuesday's loss to HJ. It may be close for a while, and home court will help the Mustangs, but the Tigers will turn it on and bring home the W.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1171312" timestamp="1328292734"] [b]Dick Vitale picking Nederland on the Basketball pickems[/b]. What's up with that? And don't even try to say that you think Central will win but not cover the spread. We wont buy that  ;) ;D [/quote] WHAT??  ??? ??? :o :o