Law Man

If elections were held today would the President win? Look at all the US citizens all over the US marching in the streets in mass for the past 12 days. To me that says we are failing and that it’s time to listen. If there’s smoke there’s fire. This will not go away and if we don’t address it we will loose. I personally do not want a Democrat in the White House and for me it is because of my biblical beliefs. President Obama made it legal for men and women to marry same sex which is a abomination. He even (political stunt) displayed the White House in 🌈. Kids are confused and are being told they are born that way(sic). A 3 yr old only knows what he is taught. Hatred and racism is indoctrinated. All lives matter. 👮‍♀️ lives matter. We can have 4 more years if we take heed to the call. A lot can happen between here and November.

I visited Groves, TX. I was there doing the big flood. I was treated real nice and I remember staying at a shelter that was near a post office. Even though I was from another State they gave me rest. I saw a lot of people showing compassion. I felt a connection since that day. Learned a lot about high school football. I’m sorry, but you guys high school football is like a college game day. I saw a clip of MId County Madness, Dogs vs Indians on YouTube. I only see that type of crowd and excitement when I go to College football games or State Championship, I really enjoy the people. I have never met Stevenash, but we bump heads a lot. He’s a good person and as a side note he gave me sound advice on my TSP retirement nest egg. The guy is real smart and knows numbers. I never met Mr. Hagar, but I can tell you he loves his grandkids and he’s active in going to all of his kids games. I enjoy the young man Lumbertonraider because he speaks from the heart. Bad dog is good at heart. Smash mouth won’t back down right or wrong. They all bring something to the table. The fun part about this message board is that we can all agree to disagree. If your skin is tough you will hang around. This political forum is also mostly Republican. My point we are (I) May never meet any of you in person but it’s been real.

I. apologies. I was confused when you said your hometown. PAT? Is that a woman? Is she mean?

10 officers have lost there jobs and are facing charges. Not because of the color of there skin but because of the bad choices they made. 6 African Americans, 1 Asian American and 3 Caucasian Americans. Yes, racism is alive and well in America. I know you will agree that there are more good officers than bad.You don’t have to look far to find one. You all are blessed to have tvc184 on this forum. No one can call a football game better than he can. I live 6 states away and I get all fired up for Mid County Madness. Tvc186 typing play by play is like being at the game. TEXAS is the football capital. Go Clemson!!!

You’ve been straddling the fence a lot lately. I don’t know anything about your hometown but the comment about we really like what y’all have done with the place gives me the impression you may have hidden racism in your heart. I agree with bad dog I am proud and I won’t apologize for what I am. I will never say things that will divide us because underneath all this shoe leather we all bleed red.

Not true.

I appreciate your passion and honesty. I think he will plea to 3rd degree. The body camera will help or hurt his chances.

Had you done the same thing as a civilian. would you be charged for second degree murder or first degree murder?

First: Only the amount of force necessary to subdue. Second: Did the Officer do everything he could to preserve life?

There are four videos that we have not seen. In my opinion will be damaging. The body cameras of the four officers.

The fact is that he was restrained in hand restraints, first aid was not rendered, he was not combative with two officer’s having him pinned down by his lower extremities and one on his neck. Once the cuffs are on and you are flat on your stomach you are no longer a threat. Leg restraints could have been applied to place him in the vehicle. One Officer did suggest rolling him on his side. Four minutes without oxygen is a long time.

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Why does the media continue to display violence and some feed into it. Why not show police officers who or kneeling and marching in unison and talking to citizens. Instead we feed into it the hate that media displays to stir hate. Just go to a football game you we see some of the most upstanding officers you will ever meet. They care and they support our youth. Bring some good to the forum and let the healing begin.

Awww, precious.

Never said you did. I said hmmm. You got that much out of hmmm?

When he said 'I can't breathe,' unfortunately, many police are under impression that if you can talk that means you're breathing. That is not true," he said during the news conference. Everything I stated was true from the blood choke to agonal breathing. You my friend are your mothers child.

My heart goes out to this young man. You won’t find many that will admit when they are wrong. They will continue to deflect and point fingers.

Do I not have a right to convey my opinion on this and any other subject? I do not live in Nederland, but I have 3 properties in Nederland and pay my fair share of taxes there. I am also in the construction industry and have a vast knowledge of how long it takes to build anything from a dog house, to a home to a refinery... I have worked on many municipal projects and understand theIr ineptness ofdoing anything in a timely fashion. 🤔 hmmm.

You are right. I was wrong.

Feel for the young man who lost his life. I’m sure you are a good man and you can build a chemical plant and make wonderful drinks. You own three properties in Nederland and make a lot of money. I will definitely keep you posted when I someday make it to your standards. Thank you for the pep talk.

I’m sorry sweetie, (OIA) Office of Internal Affairs, (OIG) Office Of Inspector General. I almost forgot I was speaking to a boilermaker. Way above my pay grade. 🙂

Both cases were cleared by OIA. The cases never made it to OIG. No psychological assessment or any form of retaining.

In my department, if you do anything outside the scope of your duties you will be terminated . The Government WILL NOT represent you. If you stay with in the scope of your duties the agency WILL defend you. All complaints will be investigated. I have been placed under investigation twice in my career. I was cleared because I never went outside the scope of my job description. People will complain when you are by the book. A small fraction of officers believe that if people don’t complain, you are not doing your job. It all goes back to training, accountability and integrity. 17 is excessive in my opinion especially if the complaints are consistent. We will never know until the trial.

New video shows he was being kneeled on by two additional officers while he was pinned down by his neck. He complained about his whole body hurting and that he could not breathe. Place him in the back of the patrol car. If he resist, use leg restraints.