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[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1039990" timestamp="1314158789"] It was removed by me. People's domestic problems are not proper content for any message board, much less one on high school sports. [/quote] So true.

Yep, i noticed the "discussion" was losing focus and taking a turn for the worse. I agree it was time to move on.

Coach English does not directly recruit, however, because of his love for the game, summer programs, coaching ability, winning record, etc, etc, etc, players/parents look for ways to play for him. As far as where this particular player will end up will depend on mom and dad, and hopefully their decision is not based solely on basketball.

Just curious, can u fish the fish pass at Keith lake in a canoe with trolling motor?

The thread about the Nederland Basketball coaching issues was keeping me entertained. Just wondering how, and why, it disappeared??

Oh well, not much interest here! I guess I'll go back to my basketbal forum ;D ;D

This guy has an entire ARMY of skeletons chasing him----and he will be one himself soon if he continues down the road he is on-----trash is trash Wow, these are strong words diamond 3 !!!!!!

Its fun watching these young athletes, one yr can make a huge difference in size and athletic ability at this age. Which local middle school  (7th and 8th grade) will have the best team this year??

Please do not defend this young mans behavior. It is what it is. If he conducts himself this way under these circumstances I can only image how he acts "the other 362 days of the year". I find it amazing how people rationalize and condone such behavior.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1034024" timestamp="1313114603"] I'm not wasting another minute of my time on your naivety. [/quote] I agree with Abe on this one. I tire of this back and forth conversation with no apparent end. As i posted previously opinions are opinions...everyone has one... i wont change yours...and you wont change mine. 5 on 5 signing off.

Oh and by the way mmosely please refrain from sending me personal messages, i am not going to meet you by the bike rack after school.

Wow....mmosely knows everything...what are the odds that mmosely is really Larry Neumann....or what are the odds that they are sitting in close proximity while he responds in such detail to every single thing. I agree with a previous poster, this is more entertaining than a Redbox comedy.  ;D

[quote name="Basketball 2016" post="1033817" timestamp="1313087042"] As others have posted I agree that Coach English can teach and mold this assistant. But how long will this take...and how much time will it take him away from the varsity while he has to constantly be molding the assistant. I think the point is wouldn't it be much easier to mold an assistant if they at least were knowledgeable about the sport. It is wonderful that coaches are also classroom teachers. I get it. But would you put this science teacher in a classroom teaching math??....Then simply put why would you put him in a coaching position he knows nothing about?? [/quote] Well said!!!

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1033906" timestamp="1313096968"] The best thing that could have be done is to give the position to Coach Smith so the school board wouldn't have to worry about this problem for a good while! Coach English is a great coach, but this "molding" business being brought up is ridiculous.. The whole point is, the Nederland basketball faithful and upcoming parents of future players want to see coaches with their kids that enjoy basketball, not some football coach being told he has to because of budget issues.. Anyone close to the program can see that English is putting too much extra work into the under levels, that could be used for his varsity team.. The two sport coaching Mosley said about Robbins is a different story.. He is a coach who enjoys both sports and has a passion for it.. The basketball people in Nederland are tired of getting coaches for basketball that could care less about it, which is what happens EVERY TIME.. [b]Last thing I'm going to say...Back-to-back district champs.. Start treating them like it[/b][/quote] Beautiful!!!!

Man Mmosley, this thread was about dead a couple of days ago but you have lit it up!!!!! Thanks  ;D ;D ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1033775" timestamp="1313081441"] While I am unqualified to speak on this particular instance, reality is reality.  If we are honest, we will acknowledge that, in the state of Texas, football is still king ( I have no interest in football and am a passionate basketball fan).  The great majority of Athletic Directors are head football coaches and it is human nature to be less concerned with other sports than the one in which you are involved.  I am familiar with a number of situations where the AD, who may be a very fine person, does not give the attention that he should give when making decisions about sports other than football.  I will bet that if there were some way to do a detailed analysis, the most "qualified" coaching staff at nearly every school will be the football staff ( in terms of experience and interest in the sport they are coaching) and coaching assignments in other sports are, in most instances, a decision with little if any forethought or, perhaps, with forethought regarding how that particular decision could benefit the football program.  If anyone tells me that Universal Off Season is not MORE beneficial to the football program, I would appreciate a good explanation of that one and NOT the bigger, stronger, faster comment as I am sure that the head basketball coach is better qualified to determine the conditioning needs of his players than the head football coach. Great post....and from someone who has nothing to do with Nederland. It simply is what it is and Nash puts in very clear! [/quote]

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1033676" timestamp="1313072069"] Glad we saved you a few bucks!  ;) I watched my first Nederland Bulldog basketball game about 40 years ago and I find this thread is better than renting a comedy at Redbox.  :D [/quote] [/quote] Hey I love a good Redbox comedy too!

[quote name="Mmosley07" post="1033587" timestamp="1313033845"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=86369.msg1033577#msg1033577 date=1313032996] Just so you know WE have no control over pay freezes, teachers being cut, and extra funding. This is entirely a governmental cause. As far as new facilities we did try to do something about that, however, the bond issue was voted down. Going to the school board on these issues would serve no purpose. [/quote] [b]I don't know what is with your repeated attempts at being condescending [/b]but I'm not sure how looking into our current property and M&O taxes wouldn't fix some of the budget problems we are experiencing. You're right, we did attempt at passing a bond. And we failed. Around next January our board will begin to put together another one. How would this serve no purpose?? [/quote] Don't take this as condescending but it's always easy to spot a new poster. A simple word of advice: understand everyone has opinions....I won't change yours and you won't change mine....don't wear your feelings on your sleeve and take things too personal or you will lose some sleep from time to time....and some people on this board actually enjoy stirring things up....and you being related to the AD will need to develop very thick skin or this message board will be no fun at all for you.

I can bet that Coach English will do a fine job in molding Walker into the assistant he needs. [b]I think its sad yall would be willing to storm the school board meeting because an assistant basketball, football, baseball, coach and science teacher didn't meet your approval yet we sit back and watch our facilities deteriorate, teacher's pay freeze, and on the brink of having to cut teachers from our schools. If yall want to go to the school board and complain then I say we do. I say we go and complain and demand our students, athletes, and teachers get what they need. New facilities and more funding. [/b] Just so you know WE have no control over pay freezes, teachers being cut, and extra funding. This is entirely a governmental cause. As far as new facilities we did try to do something about that, however, the bond issue was voted down. Going to the school board on these issues would serve no purpose.

[quote name="Mmosley07" post="1033537" timestamp="1313028827"] Walker will be fine. Everybody just take a step back and look at the overall Nederland picture. We aren't capable of having multiple, specialized coaches that only coach one thing. Most of the time our coaches are required to also be teachers in roles that need to be filled. More importantly, Walker is teaching in the science department to fill an open teaching position. Walker is not a football coach. Walker played baseball at Nederland and Lamar. He is however filling an assistant freshman football coaching position. If it were up to Neumann he would hire strictly to fulfill a coaching position with the best coaching candidate available. That's simply not the case. Its almost a puzzle. Teaching roles are open, assistant coaching positions are open, head coaching positions are open, teaching certificates are required for the teaching roles at different levels, etc. Putting all that together has to result in what's best for our school district to minimize excess personnel. Bottom line is there is more to factor in than coaching credentials. Coach English is an excellent coach because he's a [u]leader[/u]. Walker is no more qualified to coach football than he is basketball and I can bet that Coach English will do a fine job in molding Walker into the assistant he needs. I think its sad yall would be willing to storm the school board meeting because an assistant basketball, football, baseball, coach and science teacher didn't meet your approval yet we sit back and watch our facilities deteriorate, teacher's pay freeze, and on the brink of having to cut teachers from our schools. If yall want to go to the school board and complain then I say we do. I say we go and complain and demand our students, athletes, and teachers get what they need. New facilities and more funding. [/quote] Mosley...hmmmm...Mosley.....isn't there a Mosley married to Neumann's daughter??

[quote name="The Ingredient" post="1032410" timestamp="1312775531"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=86369.msg1032407#msg1032407 date=1312774296] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=86369.msg1032175#msg1032175 date=1312726160] Question for the new assistant basketball coach: what is your name, what school were you at previously and what were you coaching at that time, did you play basketball in HS, have you ever coached basketball at any level, and what would YOU say is your ability and overall knowledge of the game.??? This would probably be a good time for Neumann to justify his hire, and for this new coach to lay out the resume that landed him this job. [/quote] Still no response ??? Does ANYONE know anything about this assistant coach and his credential?? [/quote] I do and I don't think he should be the focus of your thread. He is from Ned, lives in Ned, and is coming to work in Ned in the best interest of himself and his family. Is he a "basketball guy"? No. But he took the job offered to him. The AD could prob move Smith and put Walker at MS and both would be happy, but AD is the boss. He has to have SOME reason for putting the coaches where they are. The coaches just do what they gotta do. [b]Don't drag Walker down for doing what's best for himself and his family.[/b] [/quote] No disrespect at all to Walker, I'm sure he is a fine person, and I truly mean that. But I certainly don't see how it can be in his best interest to accept a job he is not qualified for, regardless of who offers it to him. Will the same person that hired him eventually have to fire him due to his inability and lack of knowledge in basketball?? Or should the AD that hired him, WITHOUT EVEN CONSULTING with the head basketball coach, have to justify his decision to the school board?

[quote name="old doc" post="1033083" timestamp="1312934309"] If they are not moving for athletic purposes then sell your house and move to beaumont or where ever you want to move.  [b]Don't live in the HF district and let your daughter go to HF and send your boys somewhere else.[/b]  If that is not moving for athletic purposes it will take a lot to convince me otherwise. [/quote] ???    :o

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1032175" timestamp="1312726160"] Question for the new assistant basketball coach: what is your name, what school were you at previously and what were you coaching at that time, did you play basketball in HS, have you ever coached basketball at any level, and what would YOU say is your ability and overall knowledge of the game.??? This would probably be a good time for Neumann to justify his hire, and for this new coach to lay out the resume that landed him this job. [/quote] Still no response ??? Does ANYONE know anything about this assistant coach and his credential??

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1032331" timestamp="1312756093"] Coach English is a great coach. He will do fine with whoever his assistant his. Coach Nuemann's platter I would imagine has been full the last month. [/quote] Coach neumann's platter is probably not a big concern to basketball people. And you say Coach English will do fine with  "whoever" . I think basketball wants to do better than just "fine". This thread reinforces that!!

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1032175" timestamp="1312726160"] Question for the new assistant basketball coach: what is your name, what school were you at previously and what were you coaching at that time, did you play basketball in HS, have you ever coached basketball at any level, and what would YOU say is your ability and overall knowledge of the game.??? This would probably be a good time for Neumann to justify his hire, and for this new coach to lay out the resume that landed him this job. [/quote] No response yet?? ???