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The play hapened on second down. 1. Nederland should not have declined the holding. That makes it loss of ten from the hold and repeat 2nd down. Then the 15 yard (or half the distance to the goal line) dead ball penalty (because it hapened way after the play on the way back to the huddle) should have been assesed. So it should have been 2nd down and 25+ yards to go. 2. Since Nederland declined the holding it should have been the result of the play (which was a run for first down). then the dead ball 15 yarder should have been marked off from the end of the run. And it should have been 1st and 10 from that spot...Granted Nederland would never have declined the holding to let this happen! 3. Instead the officials really botched this one and it took them 5 minutes to get it wrong! They said Nederland declined the holding and excepted the Dead Ball foul (see scenario 1). And they gave PNG the ball with a 3rd down and 20+ yards!!! They were obviously very confussed as where both coaches (actually PNG was irrate). But in the long run it wasn't the officiating that killed PNG it was Nederland's offense and our coaches refusal to realize they were in a shootout no mater how much he hated it until it was too late!

u really think centrals corners can't hang with yall's receivers? I think what he is saying is that now with Grogan toting the pigskin, that you can stop the pass, but not the run or vise versa. I think everyone in Nederland knows that Central has the athletes to go toe to toe with their wideouts, but in order to do so you have to play more DB's and be less physical up front, which doesn't bode well against Nederlands OLine and Grogan. PNG did a very good job on Cardenas and Brady, but we couldn't get pressure on Bellows because of the new found running attack and he found some of his other options open.

???Didn't Vidor play Tuesday evening as well? :

Maybe the cheerleaders. Only because they were facing the crowd ;D

If you honestly believe that when Nederland wins, which has been more often than not since Burnett took over, that Nederland fans and friends don't do the same for 365 days then you are totally dillusional! The game wasn't even over with and some of my Nederland buddies were already sending vulgar text messages about how "PNG Sux" and this and that, but I realize as do most true fans of this rivalry that it is all in good fun. They really don't hate! This is why the game is played, for the kids and the fans to have fun and enjoy the bragging rights. Besides, I'd be willing to bet that last year when people were bustin' your chops about PNG winning, you were telling everyone that you were a PNG fan! ;D (Trust me, the Purple Pride wouldn't have you back. We hate stepping in Dog crap!)

My understanding was that after last season Dodge fired his long time defensive coordinator that he brought from SLC, which I am sure was difficult, and hired someone with college experience. Looks like that ain't workin' out either!

Again, North Texas has 35,000 students, a program that is not coming back from the dead, and is the public University of the Metroplex (a 5 million market) with 5 times the alumni and support that LU has. Lets make Cardinal stadium appealing to the local fans first and draw 18,000 per before we start expanding.

If all my picks are correct after week three it will look like this: Nederland -------- 3 - 0 Central ---------- 2 - 1 PNG ------------- 2 - 1 Vidor ------------ 2 - 1 Lumberton ------ 2 - 1 Livingston ------- 1 - 2 Ozen ------------ 0 - 3 LCM ------------- 0 - 3 Thats five teams pushing hard for four spots. Fun stuff!

Vidor Pie Rats go into the babe and hunt down some big game (Panthers) in a close battle. Vidor 21 Ozen 14

The Bears comes out inspired against the Dogs and puts a rea......Oh wait sorry not the Chicago Bears, but the LCM Bears. No inspirational leaders! ;D Dogs 49 Bears 6

Lumberton comes out fired up and in a bit of a surprise knocks off the Jags in front of the home crowd to really tighten up the district race: Lum 24 Cen 21

If we go to more two and three receiver sets to start the game, I think it will be a blow out. PNG 49 Liv 14 If we go with the same grind it out BS offense against 10 men in the box, it will be a closer game. PNG 21 Liv 7

You are right about that, but when coaches don't give your team the right tools to succeed (over and over again), shouldn't they be called on it. I have said for years that Neuman had the best staff in SETX because they adjust year in and year out, game in and game out. The playcalling is good and full of imagination and the kids are not held back. One question for you Dog fans: Is there anyone that was at the game last night sitting on the home side that watched PNG's offense in the first quarter and a half, that didn't know what was coming? Against 10 men in the box at that???????

Defensively, sure, but the offense looked good. Especially when they went to the two and three receiver sets and opened up the field. We should be in those setsfrom the word go. Spread oyut the field alittle and give the backs some more room to work in the secondary. Plus Tatum is the best QB we have had since Dustin left. He is deadly acurate, has a strong arm and progresses pretty well. He needs to be given the chance to lead this team and show what he can do for a shot at the next level!!! I feel bad for the players. Very athletic group is being held back. The deffense was expected to be a weak link this year. One returning starter! The problem is that in the past we had strong defenses and the coaching staff played to it. They ran the grind it out power football one receiver sets, threw 10-15 timeas a game (mostly on third down) and ran the clock, banking on the defense to keep the score down for low scoring victories. This team can't do that. The defense is not good enough. The offense has got to be unleashed early to get a big lead then try to run the clock late to preserve a lead. It's not rocket science.

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He picked up the blitz several times tonight. He should use some of the tape of him popin' our LB on blitz pickup tonight for his recruiting video. That and the threat he possed as a runner, was the biggest difference in Bellows having all night in the pocket to find the open receiver!

Yea, I thought little Gizzi did a great job most of the night on Asa, but Vidrine killed us.

No actually this game has been very predictable every year since Burnett took over. PNG wins once every four years with the same talent as Nederland. Go figure. Nederland is better gameday coached. Better playcalling. The coaches put them into position to win. PNG has the talent on offense this year to run the three receiver set and run a balanced offense. But our play calling sucks until we are down 20+. Tatum has a great arm, is very acurate and has some pretty good receivers to throw to (DeRon, Segura, Ceigelski), but he is being held back by the piss poor playcalling. This should have been a shootout. I still think Nederland wins if PNG comes out in the three receiver set to begin the game, but I think it would have been more like 41-35. Props to the Neuman and company once again. Puting Grogan at tailback changed the complexion of that offense ten fold! PNG had to respect the run this year and put no pressure on Bellows. Congrats Bulldog nation! p.s. Neuman is also smart enough to let good ole' Matt win one every now and then so he will stick around

I have to say I honestly can't stand reading a Haliburton article on PNG or Nederland. He is so over the top Nederland biased it makes me want to puke! Read the article on Huber..No mention of the tuff assignement he has coming up against PNG's DLine. Just talks about what the kid did against a week Ozen DLine. As a matter of fact there is really no mention at all of PNG in his article. But he writes about Gaspard and the article is all really about how great Grogan is and how great Nederlands ground game is!!!!Nederland this and Nederland that. : I don't mind if he writes articles on Nederland, because he knows the kids and the parents first hand, but he really needs to stay out of our locker room! We need some unbiased press! p.s. before you guys tell me to stop whining, I want to qalify this post by stating I am not alone and that even many of my Nederland friends agree he is Big Ned biased. He also said something a few years back (1998) to the PNG team when taking pictures for the newspaper before the playoffs that was totaly unprofessional.

I caught your sarcasm eagle07 and that it was great. But your fellow eagle who started this thread posted something that got me boiling a bit...He said in the original post that BH was 0-3 and hadn't played anyone yet. They lost to PNG (now 3-0 all on the road including a win over Crosby as well) And they lost to Lumberton (now 3-0) Both those teams whipped 19-4a last year in bi-district and Lumberton went to the third round after beating Lamarque and PNG lost in a game that was closer than the score (26-7) indicated to eventual state champs Lamar Consolidated and little Superman!

I would agree with this assesment! Come playoff time, I think two of the four will go second round and one may go three deep. Dayton will put a hurtin' on the district rep and Crosby will compete well against whoever they play from the district.

Nice first post :

2 things: 1. This is just some guy babbling like you or I do on these boards. 2. WAC would be a killer to any LU program. Though it might be nice for the high profile sports, what about the travel for the lower profile sports. New SWC 1. Rice 2. UNT 3. UTSA 4. Tx State 5. Lamar 6. LT 7. UL 8. UH 9. SMU 10. Tulsa 11. UTEP 12. TCU Sub in Ark State. Low travel costs and fan friendly for travel. Could get a FOX SW deal for both football and basketball.

The Train will keep a rollin' Raider's 24 Pie Rats 14

If you look back I posted " Ozen ran it (hear they are going back to basics), Central has run it recently". Vidor has lined up and attempted the spread in the recent past. I know last year they ran mostly. But my point was that the spread has lost it's luster! And now you are seeing more teams go back to the power running games. Hell even Lamarque scrapped the spread this year, of course it ain't workin' out too well for them now is it! Where is PATitan????