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I would suspect there will be some times when they will utilize Chase Rutledges ability in the pocket. Getting Jimmy the ball in some one on one situations can't be a bad thing, but ultimately Salter will run the offense. I would expect to see WOS move to more of a spread passing attack next year. Gotta utilize the talent you have each year.

[quote name="raidernaytion" post="1233063" timestamp="1340828912"] [quote author=DirkDiggler link=topic=97758.msg1232936#msg1232936 date=1340750927] Coach Creduir is the oc has been and will continue to be. [/quote] Wrong ! Randy Rowe (Liv) & Jeff Mathews (Vid) are OC's for Lumberton . [/quote] Now that FUNNY!! ;D

I have to agree with the notion that the Lumberton offense as ran last year was not to there advantage as it might have been in another district. We played Livingston 1st district game and struggled, faced Lumberton a few weeks later and did much better then faced Vidor late in the season and looked like a team that new what it was doing against the misdiraction running attack.  3+ weeks of preparation was a plus. Same thing happened the year before. Livingston gave us fits right outta the box, then Vidor our boys looked better prepared and finally against BH in the playoffs they looked solid. It really doesn't matter that the offenses are different, the fact is they are built around misdirection and learning the hard way early on not to take the bait is big advantage later in the season.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1232336" timestamp="1340401752"] yes we do but it just gets me when people imply that Vidor does not pass. [/quote] The point is not that Vidor never passes, the point is that Vidor doesn't pass on a reagular bases; therefore the Vidor QB typically is passing to a wide open player the three to five times a game that they do throw. They get very little experience passing into tight windows and working on mechanics.  This is not going to lead to a top notch QB prospect at the DI level. It's not a negative, it is what it is. To deny it is just silly. The thing that I have always felt was that the Vidor/Livingston QB should be completing 70+ percent of his passes since they are usually open. They don't and that's mainly because they are great athletes, but not great passers. As is the case with both Q and Collins.

Congrats coach...Funny two years ago they were ready to run him outta town!

[quote name="SCDAWGS" post="1232229" timestamp="1340382219"] [quote author=pngfan66 link=topic=100645.msg1232226#msg1232226 date=1340381419] well I have been to 3 walgreens, 3 market baskets and 2 walmarts and academy here in the mid county area and no magazine. Bummer. What do they show for 20-4A ? [/quote] Ned Vidor PNG Beaumont Ozen [/quote] looks good to me. based on returners I'd say that's about right. I would put central over ozen because of the experience at QB.

I see some of our Indian fans that see everything through Purple Tinted glasses are posting again! I am just hopeful for a playoff spot this year. I think we are at least two years maybe three away from having a legitimate state playoffs run.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1232156" timestamp="1340364177"] Not this year. But when the Stangs do lose another district game it will most likely come at the hands of Silsbee. The Tigers are the only team in the district that can match up with WOS on an annual basis. Silsbee defeated WOS in district a few years ago and should have had a couple more. I don't see anyone defeating WOS in district this year. [/quote] Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding...We have winner!!! It will happen some day and it will probably be Silsbee...But I will say that there is a group of Freshman this year at HF that might have a say in three years...Only problem is I am not sure if one very, very good HF class can compete with two very good WOS classes and one WOS class that is just good not very good.

[quote name="Hitch" post="1231977" timestamp="1340297440"] Collins at Livingston is a Dynamic Athlete. Very dangerous in their offense. HAS a LOT OF OFFERS at multiple positions, QB, WR, DB [/quote] Again not a QB prospect...But may be the best DB in the district and will no doubt play DB at the next level.

Funny no preseason hype for WOS...This may be the year they make some real post season hype in 3A! Of course the region got even harder with the addition of Lamarque. Having to go through CS and LM just to get outta the region wil lnot be easy.

1. Denton Guyer 2. Cedar Park 3. Tyler John Tyler 4. Highland Park 5. Pearland Dawson 6. Leander All big 4A schools (border line 5A). Cedar Park and Leander are in the same district...Actually they are neighbors like PNG/Ned...Ouch!

[quote name="purplepassion" post="1231392" timestamp="1340115507"] [quote author=Blackbuc link=topic=100405.msg1229019#msg1229019 date=1339011880] Quirante! and throw your V's up! 8) [/quote] Quirante is a good QB but you don't throw the ball so .............. Now as a Linebacker , definitely ! [/quote] Agreed. I think Vidor is better off with Q playing sparingly on offense so he can rest for defensive purposes where he can and will wreek havoc on 20-4A offenses. Does Vidor have another kid that can steer their offense?

[quote name="DawgsOfGold" post="1231241" timestamp="1340042574"] [quote author=LR33 link=topic=99607.msg1231208#msg1231208 date=1340037372] [quote author=DawgsOfGold link=topic=99607.msg1230396#msg1230396 date=1339599886] Bmt G highlights vs Lum W [Hidden Content] [/quote] Great HighLights!!! :) :) :) You just forgot to show the scoreboard at the END!!! :o :o :o Let me remind you: ;D ;D ;D Lumberton 24 Beaumont 18 [/quote] Believe me I have not forgotten and did you see the play that the ref called holding on us was really not holding and that touch down that was called back would have put yall away.  :o ;) ;D GREAT GAME THOUGH!!! [/quote] Funny how it's never the Officials fault when you win!

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1230397" timestamp="1339600046"] In that case I can count Hebert/Ozen together on the hoops count....[/quote] No. Two entirely different schools. PA High School and Jefferson HS are the same because PA High School just changed names, never shut down or combined schools...Also the case with PN HS and PNG HS. No merger occurred, just added the other city that had been going there all along.

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1230358" timestamp="1339592593"] I don't see that flying....I mean how would you justify schools with 75 kids playing schools with 400 in football? They would have to have more than one classification...I don't think they would do it. [/quote] It's done in most other states. Small privates in with the large publics and whoopin on the them cause they recruit the top talent. Shreveport Evangel had 75 students, but was the large school classification champs for years in LA.

This is Vanilla news really...I am just glad that they are keeping the Private schools out of the Public School playoffs. This would be the end of hometown Friday Night Football as we know it.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1228601" timestamp="1338910660"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=100371.msg1228591#msg1228591 date=1338909546] I have faith in Lunhow. His draft history is outstanding. I have no reason to doubt him at this point. I guess the question is which would you rather have in 5 years? A very good 22 year old deffensive SS who hits around .300 and 25+ HRs or possibly a very good deffensive 3B who hits .300 and 35+HRs (if he fills out) or A #1 starter that goes every 5th day. I would rather take a flyer on an everyday guy myself. Because we all know that the MLB draft is a crapshoot. [/quote] Well lets say Correa becomes what people think he will, which player do you think will actually stay with the Astros? The early 20s SS who draws comparisons to A-Rod, or the #1 pitcher who grew up in Houston and who's favorite team is the Astros. Fact is that Correa becomes what he is projected to be, he will probably not be with the Astros when he hits his prime. Appel has a much higher chance of staying in Houston for a long time. [/quote] Appel is a Scott Borras client...Enough Said!!!! I have a sneaky feeling that Appel will be back in the draft in 2013! And it is quite possible the Astros will have the top pick again! Read that he refussed to do a Conference call with the Pirates last night.  RED FLAG!

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1228596" timestamp="1338909982"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=100371.msg1228591#msg1228591 date=1338909546] I have faith in Lunhow. His draft history is outstanding. I have no reason to doubt him at this point. I guess the question is which would you rather have in 5 years? A very good 22 year old deffensive SS who hits around .300 and 25+ HRs or possibly a very good deffensive 3B who hits .300 and 35+HRs (if he fills out) or A #1 starter that goes every 5th day. I would rather take a flyer on an everyday guy myself. Because we all know that the MLB draft is a crapshoot. [/quote] I agree with what you are saying in most cases, but the Astros farm system is so terrible they need players that will be in the league sooner rather than later.  All those years of Drayton not signing draft picks to save money is biting them in the rear right now. [/quote] Why do they need players sooner than later? As Astro's fans we must come to terms with the fact that our home team will struggle for the next several years, but the farm system is getting better. Singleton, Springer, Santana and even Deshields with his SB #'s have posted very good springs so far and Nash has loads of power at 19 years old and could be a future DH if he can cut down on the whiffs. Theres a few good arms in Cosart (as long as he can stay healthy), Folty and this Tropeana kid. Long way to go, but the future is brighter.

I have faith in Lunhow. His draft history is outstanding. I have no reason to doubt him at this point. I guess the question is which would you rather have in 5 years? A very good 22 year old deffensive SS who hits around .300 and 25+ HRs or possibly a very good deffensive 3B who hits .300 and 35+HRs (if he fills out) or A #1 starter that goes every 5th day. I would rather take a flyer on an everyday guy myself. Because we all know that the MLB draft is a crapshoot.

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1228575" timestamp="1338907721"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=100371.msg1228536#msg1228536 date=1338901874] [quote author=PhatMack19 link=topic=100371.msg1228507#msg1228507 date=1338857234] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100371.msg1228506#msg1228506 date=1338856852] [Hidden Content] [/quote] [b]This is what bothers me about this pick.  The Astros need help immediately and he seems to be many years away[/b].  [/quote] Really? Immediate help for what? You really think one college kid is going to make a 40 win impact in one season? One of the reasons Appel fell like he did is because he is not a top of the rotation pitcher. Appel struggled at times at Stanford. This is why this draft is so difficult. There is no bonnifide #1 or even #2 and no sure fire can't miss prospects. Every thing I have read on Correa projects a quick riser through the system with a potential MLB date of 2014 which would mean he will have just turned 20 years old. My personal oppinion is that the Stros should work the trade deadlines for more prooven (in the MiLB) young pitching and stick to drafting the best available athletes in the draft. Stephen Strassburg doesn't come along every year and even he has had his issues. [/quote] They have more than 1 pick in this draft.  If they can get 3 or 4 guys that are close, then they can make up 40 games with the young team they have together now.  I hope as much as anyone that this guy pans out, but I have just read a lot that says he is way too risky.  This may all be a moot point anyways with the move to the AL next year.  The Stros may be taking their lumps for years to come anyways. [/quote] The MLB Draft is not like the NFL Draft. The players picked in the MLB draft will have no imidiate impact on there teams. Most will not be in the MLB until 2016, 2015 at the earliest and a few in 2014. You might have two or three who get called up in 2013, but I would be shocked if any of this years draft get 2013 call ups. Info on Appel, "The problem is that hitters seem to square up Appel's stuff more than they should given its quality and velocity, likely the result of an arm action that's so clean that it lacks deception; he also needs to show he can work down in the zone on a consistent basis rather than leaving all three pitches up in the zone" This is the guy that was tabbed as the top pitching prospect that would be MLB ready quickest?? Looks to me like he is at best 2 years away and even then may be no better than a #2 starter. Not what I want out of the #1 pick in the draft and looks to me like the guys that spend their entire life scouting these guys agreed cause he dropped down to 8th (which is worth a shot on a future #2).

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1228507" timestamp="1338857234"] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=100371.msg1228506#msg1228506 date=1338856852] [Hidden Content] [/quote] [b]This is what bothers me about this pick.  The Astros need help immediately and he seems to be many years away[/b].  [/quote] Really? Immediate help for what? You really think one college kid is going to make a 40 win impact in one season? One of the reasons Appel fell like he did is because he is not a top of the rotation pitcher. Appel struggled at times at Stanford. This is why this draft is so difficult. There is no bonnifide #1 or even #2 and no sure fire can't miss prospects. Every thing I have read on Correa projects a quick riser through the system with a potential MLB date of 2014 which would mean he will have just turned 20 years old. My personal oppinion is that the Stros should work the trade deadlines for more prooven (in the MiLB) young pitching and stick to drafting the best available athletes in the draft. Stephen Strassburg doesn't come along every year and even he has had his issues.

I like it better than the current format. Gives more incentive to be a higher seed and will probably result in the top seed representing the conference more often which should be the case in a low major conference anyway.

He signed with Tampa Bay as a non-drafted free agent, which is actually better than getting drafted in the 6th or 7th round.

[quote name="bigdog" post="1220746" timestamp="1336745624"] [quote author=KHS 89 link=topic=99818.msg1220594#msg1220594 date=1336686692] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=99818.msg1220584#msg1220584 date=1336685369] But retaining them in your program for consistency is better.  I understand that the overall program won't change because the HC is still there, but coaching styles are different even within the same program. [/quote] Certainly.  I agree.  But you can't prevent or blame someone for wanting to better themselves, coach at the next level, be closer to family or return to where they were born and raised.  [/quote] No, I don't blame them at all.  I did the same thing when I moved back to Texas.  I understand going somewhere else to move up the ladder, especially when the HC looks like he will be here for a while.  I was suggesting that the district offer incentives for the coaches to stay to keep the coaching core together.  [b]Ned has had their share of assistants moving around, but the core group with the OC and DC have been the same for many years.  I would guess that they could also go somewhere else to coach at the HC/AD level, but choose not to.[/b][/quote] They are also Nederland Graduates, thus there is no real pressure on them to "move back home".

[quote name="skipmeister" post="1220797" timestamp="1336753979"] [b]If Lamar goes FBS and schedules a home game with the Air Force Academy, I will definitely be there! Would you? [/b] [/quote] So your saying that you don't currently attend LU football home games and would only do so if they go FBS?  :o Sounds like the fairweather fans that helped ruin the program the first time!