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[quote name="UNLV" post="989283" timestamp="1301328279"]That is not true. Caldwell and Jackson were Abatemarco recruits. [b]Lamar ran him out of town following a 20-11 season. [/b] Drake ran him out before he could rebuild a bad program. It was over for him when he got to Sac st. He did it to himself. However holding a grudge does not make good business sense and won't get LU wins.[/quote] Pretty sure he left on his own accord. Didn't he jump to Drake because he thought it was a better opportunity?

[quote name="Ruckdad" post="988136" timestamp="1301075953"] Is UTEP unhappy with CUSA? [/quote] Travel wise it makes more sense. WAC - 674 miles average trip - with New Mexico State being closest at only 45 miles away. CUSA - 1033 miles average trip - with SMU being closest at 575 miles. When your closest conference foe is 575 miles away it don't hurt to talk.

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="987776" timestamp="1300992984"] [quote author=team first link=topic=82175.msg987720#msg987720 date=1300984652] No resources, you want me to inform you how C.K. was signed [/quote] Who is C.K.? [/quote] Clarence Key

LU has had 4 winning seasons (above .500) in the last 12 years, 2 of those were under Tubbs as HC! Tubbs record on return: 11-8 18-11 17-14 You folks realize that it has been 23 years since this program has had a 20 win season? Combine this with being in a bottom feeding basketball conference and you question why no big name applicants are on the list  ??? ::) It Is What It Is!

Based on this list, here is my best case. Don Skelton Head Coach Matt Cross top assistant with designs on becoming HC when Skelton moves on up!  ;)

[quote name="sleepy" post="987445" timestamp="1300904183"] [quote author=weslinder link=topic=82161.msg987442#msg987442 date=1300903882] If Bubba Skelton wants the job, I think it ought to be his. He's been a sucessful coach at the Juco level, he was a good assistant here, he brought in most of the good players that Lamar has had over the past 5 years. I was worried that he wouldn't want the job because of his relationship with Roc, but since he's applied, I think it should be his job. [/quote] Support skelton all you want but saying that he brought most of the good players in over the last 5 years is not why we should hire him because there werent that many that good and the records prove it. [/quote] Lamar Sanders, Jay Nabors, Currye Todd...All hard workers who had they been a few inches taller would have been at a high major. All great character guys and team leaders as well as fan favorites because they recognized their roles in the LU community. All Skelton recruits from his NW Miss days. Been told by players that he ran that offense when he was here. Those were the only successful teams under the Roc regime. The guy breeds success wherever he goes.

If anyone thinks it will be any place other than Frisco, you are off your rocker! This conference should go back to higher seeds venue. It is ridiculous for any Low Major conference that is only getting one bid no matter what the records are to be having a conference tourney that doesn't benefit the teams that played the best over the 16 game schedule. Every other year this conference sends a 16 seed for the slaughter leaving a 14 or 15 seed that could have an upset out in the cold. What good does that do the SLC??

As far as Skelton goes, money talks! Staying in Beaumont for $50K as an assitant versus $150K as a D1 Head Coach are to totaly different animals.  I would guess Jones Community College is paying him between $50K and $75K. Also the fact is LU is a stepping stone school. I dont care who you are. Had Roc lit it up at LU he would have been gone the first time the chance to make $500K - $1 Mil per at a bigger program. And LU was his dream job.

[quote name="Ruckdad" post="984274" timestamp="1300373821"] badndn - Where are you seeing that on ESPN? [/quote] CBB Rumors from 3/16. On the Insiders section.

ESPN and CollegeCochingNews.com reported that Terry is atop the LU list. they also commented about his recent prowess in recruiting top players from Canada to UT. Not quite the same to get those guys to LU. We went the Canada recruiting route with Mike Deene and produced ho hum results. Grant was a good shot blocker and a great student, but that was about it. The others from Canada were duds.

Capel can make more money as an assistant at a Major. For those that point to his OU Elite 8 run, don't forget he had the Griffin boys and Willy Warren on that team. Hard to lose many games with that trio. Cyprien looks like a pretty good candidate, but I really want someone with winning HC experience at the college level, wether it be JC, DII or other.

Nice hard to read first post! ::) Funny last night the Dewey kid you are refering to was the only guy to go 0 fer in the first game! He went 0-3 and K'ed twice. Nice call. And the DH in the last game went 1-2 with 3 walks and scored twice. I can see where that could be a problem.  ::)

[quote name="sleepy" post="983031" timestamp="1300215268"] [quote author=badndn link=topic=81730.msg983026#msg983026 date=1300214503] Monarchs teams at Panola were about as fast paced as it gets...He was there when Gil Goodrich was there. They scored over a 100ppg. [/quote] He also has the support of his head coach at Marquette Buzz Williams who has big texas ties and has done well at marquette! I looooooooooved gil goodrich.  He was a thug but he could play!!!! [/quote] Me to on Goodrich. His dissmissal was not a Tubbs call, but a Roc call. Roc couldn't stand him. You know he went on to average over 30ppg at Bowie State and was over 20 ppg in Europe. Monarch had several talented kids at Panola.

Monarchs teams at Panola were about as fast paced as it gets...He was there when Gil Goodrich was there. They scored over a 100ppg.

Thanks. We enjoyed it as well. Pitchers got some good innings and seeing live pitching for batters is allways better than BP. Good Luck to you guys when school ball ends in May. We have that wait to look forward to next year.

I gotta say that when they hired Roc I was very excited. I really expected big things and was happy it was a guy that loved this university and this area. I said then and I will say it again any new coach at a mid to low major should get 5 years to bild a program. I was 100% behind OUR guy. It just didn't happen. Five years is up and this program is no better then it was on the court. It's time to move on. As most have stated Steve Rocaforte will find a position quickly doing what he does best for a big program and he will probably make more money. I know it's not what I invisioned five years ago nor what Roc invisioned when he moved his family here, but it is part of the coaches lifestyle. At the end of the day it's all about winning. Don't give me this graduation rate BS. Rice graduates every football player it recruits, but they still have a new coach every four years!!! Here's hoping the next roll of the dice is the lucky roll for us LU fans. As a PNG fan, a lot of folks on here thought we were nuts for wanting to make a change from Burnett two years removed from a DC, but we all knew what shape the program was in...It was time. We rolled the dice and we couldn't be happier. We now have a HC that is building a solid program. Here's hoping Tidwell and company get lucky.

[quote name="NickKBTV" post="982696" timestamp="1300147846"] The only idiot would be the guy that expected to keep his job after three straight sub .500 seasons in one of the worst conferences in the NCAA or his buddy!!! Probably best that you don't let your inner thoughts out as a member of the local media. Calling the people that pay your bills idiots is not smart!!! I just lost a lot of respect for you as a professional. I didn't know I was employed by setxsports.com. I'll start sending my bills your way. If you get your feelings hurt over something on a fan board, I feel sorry for you. Oh come on, you lost a lot of respect for me as a professional? You don't even know me. Come pay me a visit, I'm at Parkdale all day everyday. [/quote] I know you! I used to watch you on KBTV! Who said anything about SETXSports.com being your employer?? We all know who you work for and it appears that you fail to realize that KBTV sports is a service provider that relies on it's local population as it's sole means of making money. Not smart to call those people idiots! Again it is very unprofessional.

The only idiot would be the guy that expected to keep his job after three straight sub .500 seasons in one of the worst conferences in the NCAA or his buddy!!! ::) Probably best that you don't let your inner thoughts out as a member of the local media. Calling the people that pay your bills idiots is not smart!!! I just lost a lot of respect for you as a professional.

I think this WAC job was saying that someone in the media said it...We all know the media is wrong often! ;D

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="982629" timestamp="1300141238"] Best thing that could have happened to clear out all of the staff.............I just wonder how this will effect some of the players who are suppose to be back next season?? [/quote] With so many juniors this year I doubt any will leave. Most would have to go DII to play. Minor and Brown could go, since they was a true Sophomores last year. They could Red-shirt and still have two years somewhee else.

May all be a moot point anyway because I believe Lamar by way of its record this year and last years NCAA birth will get an at large, but Terror - READ IT AGAIN. It says AND!!! Automatic Berths A team that is offered an automatic bid by the WNIT shall be the team that is a.) the highest-finishing team in its conference’s regular-season standings, [b]and[/b] b.) is not selected for the NCAA Tournament. A team that fulfills these qualities will earn the WNIT automatic berth for their respective conference, regardless of overall record. Meaning that the top finishing team in the conference gets a birth if they don't get the Auto to the NCAA. It says nothing about the second place team JACK A$$. Therefore based on this rule, McNeese will go to the NIT.

[quote name="sleepy" post="982533" timestamp="1300129756"]I also agree with you in saying he should be gone.  He never put the plan in place where you have a good freshman class full of freshman.  It was all jucos all the time. I just feel like the next guy needs to be a non juco recruiter or at least not an only juco recruiter like roc! [/quote] You do realize that his starting five down the stretch consisted of the following: C - Custer (recruited out of HS) Sr. PF- Brown (recruited out of HS) So. G - Lamb (JUCO) Jr. G - Minor (recruited out of HS) So. G - Miles (recruited out of HS) Jr. Plus Osas (recruited out of HS) Fr. played a bigger role off the bench and Harper (recruited out of HS) Jr. played 20+ minutes a game. So really only Lamb and James saw a lot of PT from the JUCO ranks. Thats 6 HS kids and 2 JUCOs in his 8 man rotation that he finally stuck with. Sure looks to me like the guy recruits out of HS pretty evenly. This past year was skewed with JUCO talent because the previous two years he recruited alot of HS kids and he felt the urgency to win now!!!

Dont forget that Cross recruited a pretty good talent in David Laury to LSCPA. A 6'8" 210 lb SG. Then he kicked him off the team midway through the season! So he can recruit and knows the game as well. I'm still a Bubba Skelton fan, but my best case scenario would be Skelton as HC with Cross as one of his assistants.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="981526" timestamp="1299895907"] Saw Billy Gillespie today at the state basketball tourney. He was sporting a "cardinal" red shirt. ;) ;D [/quote] With two T's on it!

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