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[quote name="coachacola" post="886475" timestamp="1287954707"] Southlake Carroll was good before Dodge arrived and has been good since he left.  You don't have to recruit talent in high school, for the most part it's there or it's not.  I think North Texas misjudged how well Dodge would do as a college coach based on that. [/quote] Wrong! Southlake was great under Ledbetter. They ran one of the Bone offenses backe then in 2A and 3A. They moved up to 4A and didn't have the same success. Made the playoffs a few times, but not deep runs. Dodge got the job, changed the offense and they blew up as they moved up to 5A. Since he left they have been good, but not great. No deep playoff runs. There is no doubt Dodge had big troubles at UNT, but one thing was for sure, his offenses were still good. Go back and look. UNT scored alot, but they couldn't stop anyone! This is where Todd failed. He never really got a DC or the defensive recruits needed to be successful. I'd take him in a heartbeat as the OC at my favorite school, be it college or HS.

Terror and I finally agree on something...Proof is in the results, the West has been the better division top to bottom. The East has had some good teams at the very top, but the West has been tuff up and down! I think the big story this year will be how the Bearkats will be without the top coach in the conference?

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="885881" timestamp="1287887507"] Ok here are the current standings: [table] [tr][td][b][/td] [td][b]  Ovr.[/b][/td] [td][/td] [td][b]  Dist.[/b][/td] [td][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td][b]Team(ADM)[/td] [td][b]W[/td] [td][b]L               [/td] [td][b]W[/td] [td][b]L[/td]   [/tr] [tr][td]Abilene Cooper (3326)[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]0[/td] [/tr] [tr][td]Abilene (2283)   [/td]        [td]6[/td]        [td]2[/td]        [td]3[/td]        [td]0[/td] [/tr] [tr]     [td]Midland (2871)      [/td] [td]7[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]1[/td] [/tr]   [tr]     [td]Midland Lee (2907)     [/td] [td]6[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Odessa Permian (3260)[/td]        [td]4[/td]        [td]4[/td]        [td]0[/td]        [td]3[/td] [/tr] [tr]     [td]Odessa (3837)[/td]        [td]3[/td]        [td]5[/td]        [td]0[/td]        [td]3[/td] [/tr][/table] Cooper, Abilene, and Midland are in.  Midland Lee can clinch next weekend with a win over Midland and an Odessa loss to Permian.   [b][b]Cooper and Abilene will both be Division II with the game next weekend determining that seed.  Midland will be DI.[/b][/b][/quote] If those numbers in parenthesis are correct then there is no way Cooper and Abilene will both be DII. Cooper will be DI and Abilene will be DII

Grad you have Nederland at 1-4, should be 2-3

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The voice of several generations! I thought about how professional he was as the PA announcer for PNG football all those years this past Saturday night during the Ozen game. Those that were there know what I mean. A Great Ambassador for all things PNG. He has been and will continue to be missed. I pray for the Durham family. "Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez!!"

[quote name="QB01" post="883268" timestamp="1287752225"] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=74798.msg882972#msg882972 date=1287708323] crosby vs gcm crosby fresh red won 50-30 [/quote] I just want to say those QB/RB are some players.  They did a great job.  But why does he slide at the end of plays.  There in the 4th quarter, the QB was sliding down or running out bounds and not finishing plays.  Again i want to say great job, i thought it was a good game.  I was just wondering if that he was coached to do that or just prefered.  I look forward some more match ups. [/quote] Up late by 3 tds. Sounds like a good move to me. What sense would it make to risk an injury to your QB late in a blowout?

The teams we have lost to are a combined 20-8. Remove the big rivalry game and the three remaining losses combined record is 18-3! Of course none of this matters come tonight at 7:30. Again I predict the last team to score wins! If you like offense be at The Reservation for a showdown of two great offenses.

[quote name="utguy09" post="882853" timestamp="1287695646"] Sonnier of lcm at least honorable mention. [/quote] Probably,maybe even Jalali or Nelson for HM. There are just so many teams running the spread now that WR numbers are outrageous.

[quote name="tappedout" post="882856" timestamp="1287695991"] PNG's defense has not caused many turnover's this season but I have a feeling that change's Friday night. We've been in position several time's but have dropped the interception's. That will change this week ! PNG win's 45-21! [/quote] Since moving DJ to Inside LB two weeks ago, the defense has caused 5 turnovers. DJ himself has forced two fumbles and picked off two passes (of course he fumbled one of those back 20 yards down field)

If they still use the points differential against the tied teams with a cap, then as of today PNG would be 3rd and Liv 4th. PNG +9 (+16 Lumb, -7 Liv) Liv +5  (+7 PNG, -2 Lum) Lum +1  (+15 Vid, +2 Liv, -16 PNG) Vid -15  (-15 Lum) So why was there a coin flip in a IHOP a few years back to decide who went?

May get a few 20-4A O Linemen on one of the teams. Outside of that I doubt anyone else from the district will get any recognition. Reyes (WB) will get some recognition. Lot of good 5A QB's though. L. Ford (KVille) will probably be 1st team! M. Roberts (WOS) and P. Lane (Silsbee) should get on one of the 3A teams.

I heard they could score. Maybe some 100 point games in the near future. Just not sure if the opponent wont have 101!  ;D I hear that James kid is fun to watch and that this team will have several deep threats unlike last year when it was Miles and Miles alone. Hopefully with this bunch one of these guys will step up as the go to guy in the clutch. I think we missed that last year. Nabors could only do so much down low.

[quote name="sfa87" post="880390" timestamp="1287475038"] also SFA vs Cameron Yoe we down in penetrations and we were faced with a 4th and long and marler wanted to punt, but Greg Green our d-coordinator said otherwise and we went 4 it and got it, and then it was classic kenny ford going in from 21 yards out to win the game [/quote] I was there that night. We went nuts when Kenny got past the 20 to tie it in penetrations, and then even crazier when he rolled in the endzone for the no doubt win! Of course Them Gobblers took it STRAIT to us the next week. Like a freight train.

[quote name="Scooter!" post="879933" timestamp="1287437842"] darn, hope he's on a recruiting trip the weekend of a certain game next year  :D Top 3 QB in SETX next year IMO with Singleton being #1 [/quote] Green will definately be one of the top 3 QB's next year. He has my vote for #1. [quote author=Sgt Rey link=topic=74650.msg879882#msg879882 date=1287435649] Congrats to my Ozen Panthers (not mine when they play us)! Great job Oline! [/quote] Not sure the Ozen OLine did him any favors. He made most of his throws on the run because of breakdowns by the OLine and he did a great job of improvising.

[quote name="coachtroy8" post="879497" timestamp="1287416373"] Obvious blown PN-G coaches discision not to have someone back to not field a punt late in regulation. A solid answer to the secondary's problem is on the bench watching the game. #11 is one of the best atheletes on the team. Why he is not playing defense is crazy. [b]Coach needs to realize he is not at Odessa and needs to have his talent playing and not watching from the sidelines.[/b] [/quote] #11 has a torn ligament in his knee. He is only suited up as a deep snapper on Kicks. Maybe you need to check the news on occassion!

[quote name="JJWooten" post="879320" timestamp="1287378525"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=74606.msg878868#msg878868 date=1287355219] Was it SHSU homecoming game Saturday? Just looked at their athletic page and it was homecoming! [/quote] A lot of people were upset about the poor turnout for homecoming, but then a poster made a really good insight. The VAST majority of our alums are from the Houston area, and chose which games to attend strategically. With Battle of the Piney Woods being next week at Reliant Stadium, it's probably pretty certain that they opted for that game over the trek to Huntsville for Homecoming. There are already roughly 20,000 tickets sold for that game, probably a little less than that. With Homecoming the week before, it's hard to get people going two weeks in a row. But then again, even when we were good we were only getting about 10-12 thousand in there. [/quote] What ever makes you feel better! ::)

Last one to score wins. That hasn't boded well for PNG so far this year! 1-4 in those types of games. Maybe finally winning one of those Saturday will break the ice. Who knows, If you like offense come out to the Reservation Friday night, there should be a lot of it!!! ;D

[quote name="mytwocents" post="878317" timestamp="1287336379"] So i'm still saying watch out for Vidor. Our defense is getting better and better each game. I mean we held a dang good offense of LCM to 28 points last week and scored 21 points on a defense that shut out lumberton. So watch out for the underdog Vidor is all i'm saying. [/quote] Vidor HELD LCM to 28 points?? This is what I am talking about. A good defensive night is holding an opponent to 28 points. As far as the question about great offenses or bad defenses in this district, look over the pre-district. Lots of points being scored against all teams! Does anyone here actually think that any team in this district will rack up 28+ on the likes of Brenham, Dayton, Montgomery, FWood or what looks to be a solid El Campo? Because with these defenses in 20 4A thats what its gonna take to get a W over these teams.

[quote name="bcjag10" post="878301" timestamp="1287335628"] Am I the only one who sees this dist. actually doing well in the playoffs? [/quote] YES

[quote name="prepballfan" post="878083" timestamp="1287295799"] Doty had 17 no 29 for 245 yards and 4 touchdowns [/quote] Doty had 5 TDs 2 to Lacour in regulation 1 to Gizzi in regulation 1 to Nelson in 1st OT 1 to Jalali in 2nd OT I thought the turning point in the game came when DJ intercepted Green and then was stripped of the ball on the return. If PNG takes over there I think it's over. PNG would have gone up 34-13 and Ozen probably crumbles. Instead Ozen got new life!

[quote name="D3zii" post="878054" timestamp="1287292769"] [quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=74548.msg878051#msg878051 date=1287292456] I still think that none of the four teams that do make it get out of the second round. [/quote] I'd be willing to go against that..Wat just because P.N.G isnt running the district, we're weak or something.. [/quote] has nothing to do with PNG. We didnt get past round 2 last year. What did those Central teams have the past few years that went past round 2? DEFENSE. There is not a team in this district that hangs their hat on Defense and we all know come playoff time it's what wins football games. Best scoring defense in the district is giving up 23 PPG...Not good come week 12!

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="875381" timestamp="1287164386"] I can say it was Silsbee vs WOS in the 1998 playoffs. Silsbee won 21-20. What a game. Silsbee went on to go to the 4th round of the playoffs that year. [/quote] I was on the field for that one. Big shocker. I think it really propelled Silsbee forward for that run. I recall a long WOS TD called back because a kid 15 yards behind the play blocked a Tiger in the back. Totally unecessary (the block that is, the flag was correct)! That block, even if made legally would have had no bearing on the play.

Griffin vs White...The systems dictated the passing numbers. Take a look again, both guys completed roughly 65% of thier passes! Just so happens Griffin plays in Briles system which requires him to throw more than White did under Rodriguez. If Griffin were at Michigan right now he would be throwing less and running more, especially if he had a guy like Slaton in the backfield as White did (more option football).

Griffin will not be leaving early for the NFL. He is a very good college QB, but NFL?? Think Pat White! The reason for my statement about not being recruited as a QB, was because I read when he signed with WVU that one of the reasons for doing so was because they promissed a shot at QB and others had not. 2 years to groom at Baylor under Briles and behind a similar QB in Griffin wouldn't be a bad thing! I wish him well. And hope for our sake (local fans) he is real, real homesick and chooses LU! ;D