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HJ has open enrollement....thats why they are the way they are

[quote name="png1977" post="1368439" timestamp="1359643601"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=108782.msg1368433#msg1368433 date=1359642881] Does it really matter? Watered down [/quote] It matters to the ones who make that 4th place spot [/quote]   UIL has created that oppurtunity so yes it does matter to the ones playing and coaching....and parents. Remember its just my opinion im not saying im right 

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1368434" timestamp="1359643144"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=108782.msg1368433#msg1368433 date=1359642881] Does it really matter? Watered down [/quote] Whats watered down? Playoff system? [/quote] IMO....yes.  teams can have a losing record and still make playoffs....just doesn't sit well with me.... Yes i have an old school mentality.  I mean whats next....5 teams 6 teams every team makes playoffs.  Society is slowly going towards "no one should be left out" We don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. You don't have to earn anything, there entitled to everything now. False sense of reality to me......but then again maybe not...the way society, along with govt, going towards everybody should get a piece of the pie whether you put in the work or don't. Seems like just a money thing to me.

Does it really matter? Watered down

Sounds like SCAPEGOAT's kid plays both sports and probably rides the pine in basketball.  He's like a lot of parents who believes lil johnny is the best thing to the sport but yet he doesn't get to play, so he blames the coach and looks for excuses rather than seeing his kids ability for what it really is. Just because lil johnny was an allstar lil dribbler when he was young doesn't mean he's gonna be an all star in high school.....too many parents cant see this.

Hats off to Buna.....whey whipped the mess out of the Horns I like the intensity of the Coach. I wasn't trying to take away the wins that Buna has accumalated with my earlier post. 

[quote name="kenneth1617" post="1367641" timestamp="1359417241"] buna by 10+ we're peaking also 28-3 [/quote] very good record check the strength of schedule there buddy

[quote name="scapegoat" post="1367675" timestamp="1359427158"] Just call it like I see it!Have a kid still in the program.Do not want to get specific and possibly hurt my kid.Both sides need to give a little for the kids.When son gets out of program in few years I will give my opinion how both could change. [/quote] Is this what you actually see/hear or is it what your son sees/hears then tells you?

How did Kountze lose to Tatum by 13? Was Kountze missing players? They may have to play them again in the 2nd round.

Read the question....i believe it also mentions Div 2 and Juco along with Div 1

He walked into a tough situation there

[quote name="1ExtremeRightWing" post="1363676" timestamp="1358274659"] I'm sure coaching or lack of coaching does has some effect, BUT It's all about the discipline and willingness of the athletes to be coached and the devotion to the TEAM (not the ME). [/quote] right on

[quote name="hitman009" post="1363672" timestamp="1358274296"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=108211.msg1363357#msg1363357 date=1358178317] Why does beaumont with the athletes they have that go div 1, div 2, juco aren't consistent winners in district races? [/quote] can you give me a number of D1, D2 and Juco kids that will sign this year from each school? [/quote] No i can't but im sure someone can.....

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1363657" timestamp="1358271431"] Well look at it this way..... how many teams in District 20-4A even HAVE a State APPEARANCE let alone a State Title? Two...Ozen and Central, with only Ozen winning a state championship...OK, in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle in the last 20 years? How many schools have won a title? 4...Ozen, HJ, Kountze, and Evadale...They aren't GIVING state titles away, man....They are very hard to come by...Nederland has done very well under Coach E., but to expect a state title out of them is a bit much...Not saying that it will NEVER happen, but look at the number of schools in this area over the last 20-25 years that HAVE...FOUR schools...They are not easy to come by my friend. [/quote] Don't forget Lincoln  88, 89, 91

You can say the same thing about basketball as far as "coaching goes" when it comes to beaumont schools or at least a majority of them.  Beaumont basketball wins consistently in district with not so good coaching, why can't football be the same?

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1363387" timestamp="1358183253"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=108148.msg1363384#msg1363384 date=1358182886] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108148.msg1363359#msg1363359 date=1358178506] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=108148.msg1363356#msg1363356 date=1358177897] Yes that is very true.....He needs an assistant that is not only full time basketball, but one that knows the game. [/quote]You available? ;) [/quote] i would if i could [/quote]Even if you could, NISD administration and those in power would not allow it! We can't outshine the FB program! ::) [/quote] I know all to well my friend

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1363360" timestamp="1358178542"] When did this turn into a Nederland vs Beaumont thing? West Brook and Central had nothing to do with Nederland losing to Ozen... [/quote] Im not saying the other schools have anything with ned losing to ozen... hats off to Ozen. And yes my post was off the subject/title of this post.  But i was just responding to other posts about freshmen and junior high kids.  think about it How is Nederland able to compete and sometimes beat these beaumont schools?  Is it because of Coach Es work or the lack of coach/teaching at the beaumont schools?  or maybe a combination of the two.... Do we really need to compare the talent and athleticism of the two areas, its a pretty clear answer......beaumont is far superior in those qualities as a whole than nederland.....

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1363359" timestamp="1358178506"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=108148.msg1363356#msg1363356 date=1358177897] Yes that is very true.....He needs an assistant that is not only full time basketball, but one that knows the game. [/quote]You available? ;) [/quote] i would if i could

Why does beaumont with the athletes they have that go div 1, div 2, juco aren't consistent winners in district races? 

Yes that is very true.....He needs an assistant that is not only full time basketball, but one that knows the game.

I don't have a dog in the fight the truth:         Beaumont will always have superior athletic ability as a whole over Nederland.         Beaumont Middle Schools are split among 3 public High Schools and several other private             schools.         Nederland has one high school.         Nederland players predominately stay together thru Middle school to High School         Beaumont players do not.         Nederland is able to compete because there is more unity and they have a head coach that         out coaches the coaches in that district         No im not saying that the beaumont coaches can't coach, but with the talent they have in that         area the beaumont schools should be heads above Nederland or any other team in that district.         I see the talent on the junior high level for beaumont year in and year out.         Coach English is teaching his players and the players get it.         Beaumont coaches seem to use the invidual raw talent/athletic ability as a cruch when it comes         to their coaching/teaching a team .         Coach English can't afford to do that or they would not be competitive.

yall play into these rankings too much. Lumberton was ranked earlier in the year and i told them they we're not a top 25 4A team in texas and they got their panties in a knot.  Now vidor may or maynot be ranked, they're a good team, but IMO they're not a top 25 4A team in Texas.  Parents are emotionally attached and can't see the team for what it really is. All that ranking is good for is to get your school some recognition.  It means nothing in the great scheme of things...get to the playoffs make a run try to win a state championship.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1361600" timestamp="1357583409"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=107985.msg1361580#msg1361580 date=1357578756] IMO, size is everything.  You ave a really good player standing 5'11".  You have another player at 6'8" that can do the SAME THING and I'll guarantee you the D-1 college will go after the taller kid.  They don't want to say this, but this is true since you can NEVER teach height... [/quote] I saw a 6'7" (2014) kid playing point guard for a team in NY. He has the size and skill set to play guard. H e will have no problem being recruited. But, there is a market for small guards who can shoot, create their own shots and play some defense. You very seldom see bigger guards posting on the smaller guards in college...hmmmm? I wonder why? [/quote] The game has definitely changed. 

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1361598" timestamp="1357582325"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107985.msg1361590#msg1361590 date=1357580374] Zach has potential, but he better hit the weights and start doing more ball handling skills when basketball season is over......  [/quote]I've been preaching the same thing about the weight room. Basketball has become more physical than finesse. His ball handling skills are as good as anyone in our area. He played point last year, but is playing the '2' this year. He doesn't have the explosiveness to play PG at a D1 school, IMO. He's a shooter though, and that's why he's getting a lot of looks. He's aggressive on offense, but he need to step up his defensive aggression. If he were better physically developed, that would definitely help. [/quote] If your playing a guard position there is always room for improvement in the ball handling area.....as a freshmen coming in you ve got to be ready because those upper classmen are not going to let you just come in and take one of their spots....you're going to have to earn it.  so he will need to continuously work on every aspect of his game leading up to enrolling in college.  can't be rusty.  Gotta be able to take the bumps and handchecks and still handle ball efficiently with eyes up His best friend after the season should be the weightroom

Zach has potential, but he better hit the weights and start doing more ball handling skills when basketball season is over......