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[quote name="Texans Fan" post="1348676" timestamp="1354591008"] Lumberton came back and beat Port Authur in the Nederland tournament finals. I'm not sure if you knew about that it not but I'm pretty sure that is why TABC ranked them. In my opinion though the only two rankings that mattar are where are you standing at the end of district going into playoffs and where do you stand when the season is finished. [/quote] oh i didn't know that....so who did they lose to then. and yes i agree

i said what i said because a team could have a 8-1 record (Lumberton at that time of post)and be misleading because they haven't played anyone of any significance except for orangefield and memorial....orangefield was still in volleyball playoffs and memorial beat them.  I am all about teams getting their name out their and getting recognition, but some people especially parents and fans believe in the hype of a ranking. i ve seen lumberton play 3 times.....their a descent ball club for this area, but they are not a top 25 4A team in texas.  and im sure parents and fans of lumberton will disagree with me and have irrational thoughts about me saying that (thats that emotional attachment they have to the team)  they are nt seeing clearly because of that attachment.  as of today lumberton is no longer ranked.  i see lumberton competing for 3rd in that district....

[quote name="Texans Fan" post="1347436" timestamp="1354423002"] I agree. That was for bucket who made a deal out of Lumberton being ranked. Well it does help with the girls confidence and as an intimidation factor when playing teams who allow themselves to be beat before they show up to play but as far as winning a game with a ranking. Not at all.  :) [/quote] Number 1s can be beat i never said they couldn't.  Tournament play is alot different than district play and playoffs....if you were a coach you would know.  not making excuse for teams to lose, but most highly ranked teams will often have losses on their records from tournament play rather than an individual game played during the week.... but i don't expect you to know that as a fan or a parent. i am unbiased when i make my remarks because i don't have a dog in the hunt.  im a basketball junkie....Yes its just my opinion, but my remarks are not swayed by an emotional attachment. congrats to memorial for winning. 

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1346347" timestamp="1354343855"] I'm gonna go a step further...I'm sick and tired of ppl saying fire Coach Saveat...what is he guilty of WINNING....most ppl are worried about district championships..At Ozen they wanna win state..that's goals....idk what u consider building a program but I think hes done just fine..they've lost by one point each of the years that they've been in semis and regionals..and that was with disfunctional teams...[b]but I don't hear the ppl in Nederland say fire Coach English when he loses[/b]... Respect the man and what he's done not just for basketball but for what he's trying to do for the kids...but it's impossible every time somebody doesn't like what he does they say fire him...some ppls perception of what basketball is get diluted with wanting to win so dang on bad...u ever think about what he has to deal with on a daily basis with some parents who could care less about their child's education only because they know he can play ball...nah of course not just fire him for wanting what's best for the kids...but what's worse and i hate to make this an issue but if he were white u wouldn't even question him... Start supporting the coaches instead of tryna tear em down..smdh... [/quote] i agree with you. I have found Most Nederland fans are reasonable and let the coach COACH.  And most Beaumont Fans (not all) are not reasonable and try to coach from the stands(i see it and hear it all the time). The fans think they know whats best and how to coach....its easy for them to sit in the stands and holler or sit in from of computer and write like they know basketball.....yall just look and sound ignorant.  I hear fans talking bad about coaches and the decisions they make....just shut up and enjoy the game.

im confused

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lets go ned

DEFENSE

nevermind its locked. [quote name="The Way" post="1345066" timestamp="1354288874"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=106814.msg1344909#msg1344909 date=1354246600] no kiddin... im referring to lumberton fans believing in a TABC RANKING them #23 in the state in class 4A.... play ozen and see how you do [/quote] Would you expect a lower top 25 team to do well against a number 1 team? [/quote] I ve seen lower ranked teams beat number 1s....  it happens. All im saying its good for lumberton...it gets their name out their....but thats it.....  Cause in reality they are not a top 25 4a team. some people can't handle honesty when they have a child playing...emotional attachment

[quote name="The Way" post="1345066" timestamp="1354288874"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=106814.msg1344909#msg1344909 date=1354246600] no kiddin... im referring to lumberton fans believing in a TABC RANKING them #23 in the state in class 4A.... play ozen and see how you do [/quote] Would you expect a lower top 25 team to do well against a number 1 team? [/quote] going to 20 4 a thread to answer you

watch out for orangefield what about central in that 4a division

no kiddin... im referring to lumberton fans believing in a TABC RANKING them #23 in the state in class 4A.... play ozen and see how you do

im not trying to take away from Lumberton and their accomplishments,  Im glad we have an area team that is getting recognized.  And i hope they keep winning BUT Just take my word for it.  They are not a top 25 team in class 4A.  I don't have a dog in the hunt and i watch plenty of basketball. Lets see how they do against OZEN.

there not ive seen them play 3 times they ve beaten weak teams and so their record is like 8 - 1 the loss coming to PAM in Nederland tourney

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1344654" timestamp="1354223893"] So far, I've been correct on all my bracket winners. I didn't pick Lufkin/WB. NOT familiar enough with Lufkin. But Friday I expect to see: Walker vs Silsbee Wheatley vs Central N. Shore vs Madison Ozen vs WB or Lufkin [/quote] so have i

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who ya got in the opening round? Nederland vs. [b]OP Walker, NO  [/b]    7:30pm  LCM vs [b]Silsbee [/b]            10:30am  [b]Houston Wheatley[/b]vs. PA Memorial          6pm    FB Ridge Point vs. [b]Bmt. Central[/b]          12pm    MC Bottom half [b]North Shore[/b]vs. PNG                    3pm        [b]Dallas Madison[/b]vs. FB Hightower          1:30pm  [b]West Brook[/b]vs. Lufkin                    4:30pm  WO-S vs. [b]Bmt. Ozen [/b]              9am    Semis Walker vs [b]Wheatley[/b] Ozen vs [b]NS[/b] Champion NS

lumberton won't win this....sorry to bust raider bubble, but don't get caught up in some ranking....theirs not alot of weight put on those. it just looks good. believe me they are not a top 25 team in class 4A in Texas

Is there a schedule yet?

its not ignorance...... no GOD should not bless us because we are AMERICANS.  Im simply saying the further a country gets away from CHRIST.....more and more problems will rise and demise of the country ensues.  READ HISTORY LATELY!!!!! The reason its overlooked is probably more people feel the same way I feel, just no one says it.  I pray for the President and that he would wake up a different man, but if something did happento him i wouldn't mourn one bit and i know theres alot of people out there that would feel the same way.  So if someone did assassinate the president did GOD is that's GOD's WILL as well.

Yes ozen and central are young, but sometimes young can be a good thing.  Central will definitely be state bound the next several years.  If they are not then the coach has to definitely go.

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1338188" timestamp="1353453397"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=106198.msg1338163#msg1338163 date=1353451519] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=106198.msg1337362#msg1337362 date=1353363228] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=106198.msg1337284#msg1337284 date=1353358704] bring the pain just has issues with GOD being mentioned at a football game... [/quote] Right...that's my issue. [/quote] key word  "MY"  .....that is exactly right.  YOUR ISSUE....not anybody else's......except for a small few u think christian signs on paper are a bad thing?????  Thats nothing compared to the amount of christianty involved on school property in 30s 40s 50s.  keep banning christianity more and more and more and u see this country fall further and further and further.....  over half the country voted for a muslim, socialist/communist.....if thats not a clue i don't know what is. [/quote] First off, you assume that removing Christianity is my point.  It is not.  As a matter of fact, it is just the opposite.  My point is that Christianity has nothing to do with putting bible verses on run through signs, but with how we relate to the lost.  Being defiant, ignoring the law, and lashing out in anger at those who disagree with us does nothing to show the character of Christ.  That is who Christians serve right? The best part of your post is where you refer to this country falling as we "ban" more and more Christianity. Being a Christian has nothing to do with being an American.  We dont' serve Christ so he will bless our nation, we serve him because he is worthy.  If he removes his blessing from our nation, it's because he wills that so.  No one tells him what to do or sways his decision making.  Either way, I've had this discussion and dont' plan to have it again. BTW, It's hard to take your bible thumping seriously when you refer to assassinating the President of the United States over on the political board.  If that's how you think, then I have to say that Obama isn't half the radical that you are.  [/quote] David killed goliath,  Seal team killed bin laden, Texans overthrow mexican govt, the colonies fought against the british... im assuming that was all wrong as well

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1337362" timestamp="1353363228"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=106198.msg1337284#msg1337284 date=1353358704] bring the pain just has issues with GOD being mentioned at a football game... [/quote] Right...that's my issue. [/quote] key word  "MY"  .....that is exactly right.  YOUR ISSUE....not anybody else's......except for a small few u think christian signs on paper are a bad thing?????  Thats nothing compared to the amount of christianty involved on school property in 30s 40s 50s.  keep banning christianity more and more and more and u see this country fall further and further and further.....  over half the country voted for a muslim, socialist/communist.....if thats not a clue i don't know what is.

I know coach E will fix all the kinks by District time, he's a great coach and has done a great job everywhere he's been.  IMO he is the best coach in that district hands down.  BUT....i know what central has and I know what ozen has. Ned will have to shoot lights out every game against ozen and Central.. Sorry Ned fans....im an outsider looking in...so i favor neither side.  Your run at top will more than likely end this year and for the next several years.  Coach E will always do a good job and keep Ned in contention. Coach E is great at puttin his players in the right spot, but sometimes your players just can't react quick enough......ups and downs of players abilities as a whole team...is down this year for NED. Word of advice....Don't press either team, make them play half court otherwise you may get ran out the building.

i was expecting a better game. Yeah Zach English was not very assertive.....Nederland had oppurtunities to score off of breaking HJ's press but didn't.  Nederland was in bonus for most of the 1st half, (time to get aggressive) take it to the rack but didn't settled for 3s in which they didn't make many.  . I know ned is missing a few football players, but they re not starters i know its only one game ive seenof Nederland this year but NED is not worthy of a state ranking IMO. Central and Ozen will more than likely be the front runners this year. Great Job HJ.

bring the pain just has issues with GOD being mentioned at a football game...