CraigS

Not disagreeing, but...does it take a report? Is Florida State any better with Jamison..stealing, derogatory comments about women (with video) etc.....that was all over the news......no one was wanting out of those NLI . ... the difference - No coaches were fired. Just saying, IMO - I call BS on any reason other than Briles getting fired as the reason players are wanting out of their NLI...that's all...just MY opinion only.

My only reason to get involved in this conversation is to say this.....the Baylor situation is not unique. This culture of protecting the male athletes (particularly football players) of sexual misconduct runs rampant....be it HS, NCAA, NFL, etc. To claim "I didn't know" is juvenile at best, it may be worse at some schools than others, some may get caught, others not....but it is out there. If players cared about this topic, they would self report from within the program...these "kids" have the power to make an impact by disowning or reporting fellow players known to participate in this behavior......but they do not. IMO, they aren't the rapist, but they are enabling the culture to continue by staying silent. AND - stating you don't want to enroll AFTER the fact it went this big....doesn't mean much other than you are protecting you own self interest, not that of the REAL victims.

Correct, no cover-up by SISD. Just a similar coach (room mates) with no discipline that let me know BOLDLY, he was a "foot-ball coach" and he had sons....and of course no effort during or after to apply any discipline, in fact even after a restraining order.... tried to have him slipped into the school (off limits per restraining order) to have his senior pictures taken. Only after "others" informed me of the intentions and I made a big deal about it, on legal terms pertaining to SISD, did it not take place. I only bring this back up because it is a culture to protect the "superstars" and their entitlements and of course Briles and company are 2 peas... when it comes to lack of discipline. So playing for one is no different than playing for the other.... I just find it hard to believe the events that "HE" may have just heard about (but been around a long time) is the main reason for not wanting to enroll.

as others have mentioned....this is nothing new, this information has been out there for quite awhile......No one - Me, you or anyone other than the kid KNOWS his reasoning for not wanting to enroll......but it is NOT because this is something new....one might have to admit to having not done their research .... but, the only thing "new" is Briles is out a job due to what's been going on for a while.

Not much difference at all really. No "charges" were brought against the Baylor players until after they were no longer players at Baylor. It is said that Baylor failed to investigate. Well, the police were investigating, why did Baylor have to investigate? Well, that's the same thing Silsbee said, the police and DA's office were handling the case, there was nothing the school could do, per se without any "charges". With that said, in Silsbee's defense, once the DA's office screwed it up, it did limit the schools "legal" ability toward the accused. UNTIL, the special prosecutor did get an indictment, by that point the player was no longer a student at SHS (the same as at Baylor) However, like so many now want to blame Baylor for not doing more....the same could be said of Silsbee. ALSO, whereas the connection mentioned by others....Briles and the former SHS AD were roommates during their college careers...and it is believed that the former AD was in some way going to benefit from that relationship had Briles remained as HC at Baylor........it is also said the lack of discipline at Baylor by Briles is the cause of said culture....it is also said that the lack of discipline at SHS was the reason for the resignation of the former HC/AD of SHS....... With that said....I might know a little about exactly how this went down at SHS! AND, Those wanting to bail on Baylor now has NOTHING to do with the situation going on there EXCEPT that Briles is gone. Disclaimer: This culture of blame the victims and protect the superstar athletes is not limited to Baylor and/or SHS. It is a national problem (all sports , mostly football), these 2 schools at their respective levels just got caught and got more publicity. - carry on

and hopefully won't be, I'm just getting started on paying my fair share of $40M (or whatever it is) for a new school.....between increase in taxes on a home and commercial property....they can play on grass.

You can split hairs all you want....when a person shuns, avoids, runs from (literally), fails to live up to, etc, they are "running" from their responsibilities.........and in doing so, it's very UN-American. I noticed Louisville recognized his widow at the game yesterday, the players had "Ali" on the sides of their cap......I never cheered so loud when UCSB hit the walk off grand slam in the bottom of the 9th to send the #2 team in the land packing........Cassius Clay was a loud mouth muslim draft dodger....nothing more! As far as "standing" for what he believed in......so are the pedophiles ... doesn't make them "good" people.

Reminds me of the commercials......I'm not a security guard, I'm a security monitor, I don't stop robberies, I let you know when there is one....There's a robbery.........or the insecticide inspector, not killing the termites, letting you know there's a problem....as the person falls through the stairway....There's a problem....it goes on to say... what good does it do to identify there's a problem, if you're not going to do anything about it.....so we've become "Terrorist Monitors" it seems........

You're correct...just his responsibilities, whether he agreed with them or not.

"If you don't have to" that is the problem. If you want the guaranteed money (scholly) then you "have to". If they hold out as a walk-on there may not be any money left in that class budget. I suppose some coaches could hold some money back just in case, but I doubt that happens very often. Not to mention, I'd guess more times than not, most of these kids can't afford to walk-on.......play with fire - you will get burnt. I'm more app to agree with GCMPats visit, make an informed decision as best you can, sign LOI and go get a free education. If you don't like it, move on, just understand, that life has rules, learn to live by them and with them...it won't get any better as you enter the rest of your life after sports.

Good riddance, but it does explain the actions of certain others dealing with similar circumstances, being room mates and all.

"My name is Nobody" is one of I think several, If I remember correctly "Nobody is still my name" is another one in that series....anyway, really funny westerns.

Marked - now that gives you a .00000001% chance to join KJ Dad in the "I told you so" category...

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Any of the classic sports movies (at least in my mind), in no particular order. Miracle, Friday Night Lights, Hoosiers, League of their own, Rudy, Remember the Titans, Glory Road, Eight Men out, Money ball, The Natural, Tin Cup, Field of Dreams........

Yes I do. At least in the case of the ones that I compare to the fed gov. Pop tart shaped gun suspension comes to mind, expelling kids for wearing a tshirt with the American flag comes to mind, letting confused sick people that can't look in their drawers / panties and know what sex they are use opposite bathrooms, comes to mind......and many many more of these same type stupid ass examples, come to mind. With that said, my wife is a teacher, and for the most part educators are well meaning smart people......then there are the dumb asses like the ones mentioned. I wouldn't have to "show my a#%" if the admins weren't such dumb a#%'s

In most cases, the school admins are as dumb as the fed gov....that's why Cavness and company standing up for the "normal" people is such appreciated.

No, they didn't list it on their birth certificate, don't expect it on any other official form. What they don't get to choose is their sex...what they get to choose is how to act. On this subject, I am aware that some people (very very very few) ARE actually born with BOTH sexual organs....now those are the ones, the ONLY ones we should be discussing. Just because you identify better with a group that you weren't born as, doesn't mean you become that....some blacks are accused of being "to white" (whatever that means) for identifying with what some believe to be white ideals. This doesn't make them white, or not black enough...it's just what they believe. They can't change their birth certificates, they can't check the "white" box under race. They can even bleach themselves (Michael Jackson) and it still DOES NOT make them white....

lmao - I noticed you ignored the first part. Speaks volumns for your concerns......

Do not judge others by your own desires. If they are married, then there is nothing "sinful" about freaky stuff...the key part of you're comment is "secret" which is where ones sex life, desires, and preferences should remain..unlike the LGBT who want to flaunt it and shove it into the public arena for attention.

I'll tell you my biggest issue with gays as a sin. Most Christians, know they sin, admit to sinning, even if they are sinning and continue said sin....multiple marriages, child out of wed lock, adultery, etc........Gays, they won't admit it is a sin.....fine if you admit it is, and state boldly, I am a sinner and will willfully continue to sin, OR...I'm not a Christian, therefore I don't believe in sin........but STOP denying or acting like it's ok, just because two consensual adults are in love, and that makes it all ok.........the acceptance to gays IMO, is no different than accepting adultery and polygamy. After all all 3 of these pertain to consensual adults that "love" each other.

So what's it with you....just because everyone sins, no one can have an opinion of others sins? and/or...just because everyone has their own sin it doesn't matter what the sin is we should legislate that everyone be excepting of all sin? It's been said, they aren't hurting you, so why do you care? So what if was exposing your son or daughter with words or visuals of exceptance with (fill in blank with something you hate) and he/she began to think it's ok...all the long you're trying teach them it isn't....and as you try to raise your child by your beliefs....society began to destroy your life by tagging you with a adjective ... homophobe, islamaphobe....sexist...bigot...blah blah blah....whereas all you're trying to do is teach your child to be the person you'd like them to be....

You and the rest of the liberals take bits and pieces and use it as a whole story or circumstance...for instance...you see one guy drunk, one guy cheating, one guy hating gays, one guy ...blah blah blah....then go on to tell the story about how "Christians" go around doing all these things. Yes, each their own, some will certainly have different takes, beliefs, and actions....that doesn't translate to "Christian" beliefs.........the things you mention are true, none should be tolerated or acted on......but that doesn't mean just because one is already happening we should allow all....it doesn't mean just because I to am committing sin that I can't recognize others, and be considered hypocritical. On another note: It sure seems the non believers claim to know more about Christianity than the Christians themselves..........the truth is...you don't know anything, you once again, pick and choose pieces to satisfy up your agenda.

selling, buying or drinking alcohol is not a sin, various activities that some "blame" on alcohol are sins....again, you just make stuff up to fit your agenda. If your friend never told you that his sin was better than the other - then YES, the irony was lost on you, because there wasn't any....you inserted your own interpretation (agenda) of that into the repeating of the situation.

If I have to explain why 2 men having sex isn't the same as opposite sexes having sex out of wedlock in the context of my comment - GROSS, then we'll just leave it at that. On the Christian side of things - yes, I did commit that sin. However, I assure you my parents (Christians) did not knowingly contribute to my sinful ways by openly allowing me to use their home for said activity.......oh snap, a very revealing moment for me....my parents, my very own parents discriminated against me........I now must commit suicide! Again, A) you have limited comprehensive skills - 'B) slow to understand - C) or just argue to argue....there is no option D