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[quote name="scapegoat" post="1414574" timestamp="1371660723"] Nederland's boys track team lost District Championship to Tony Brown and company by 1 point.I think Nederland was selected by Coca Cola as the best program in SE Texas this year.Another poll picked Ned. as the fourth over all program in the state.Tigers had a great year but Nederland had a better one this year.I would love to see a list of all of the sports top to bottom to back up my view. [/quote] the only way to truly solve this is to place a value on each win, each place at each level then come up with a total. Example: each win = 1pt District championship = 6 second = 5 etc bi-district champion = x .... regional champion = x state qualifier = x placed at state event = x, etc Then divide by the number of sports played at the particular school (this would equal out the bigger schools who have more sports teams than the smaller schools)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1414328" timestamp="1371585339"] Silsbee also sent a girl to state golf tourney, finishing 8th, [b]a girl to state track meet (high jump) finishing 3rd[/b], two girls to state power lifting meet with both winning state titles in their respective weight class. Silsbee girls golf team won district. Silsbee softball was 2nd in district, 2 rounds in playoffs. Volleyball went to playoffs as well. Girls soccer made playoffs. Silsbee football regional finals(lost to semifinalist Carthage), Silsbee basketball district champs, 3rd round losing to state finalists Houston Yates, Silsbee baseball district champs losing in state semifinals to eventual state champion LaGrange. Silsbee also had regional track and tennis qualifiers. [/quote] 3 girls went to state with 2 5th place finishes as well, the Enterprise said only 2, Chanissey Folwer also went as a sprinter.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1413932" timestamp="1371493771"] History shows the overwhelming majority of our Nations top leaders, as well as elite Forbes 500 CEO's, played sports and learned valuable life lessons through sports. Bottom line is you take a kid that has never played sports and only hit the books hard,[size=14pt][b] then take a student that has busted his butt as a member of a team [color=red]and also made good grades[/color], the student athlete will be the better leader and professional every time.[/b][/size] Without sports and competition a person will never have that drive and passion that has truly built America. JFK, FDR, Patton, Schwarzkopf, Powell and even the great Bill Gates all played sports. Sports seem to be the "X" factor in life, separating the weird-o from the great American. It's not enough to just be smart anymore, you have to have the intangibles of Leadership, Dependability, Trustworthiness, Initiative, Responsibility and Respect. Let's remember it's our Coaches and not our math teachers sharpening our kids with the intangibles I listed above.  [/quote] absolutely....my argument is to be a STUDENT athlete which agrees with and supports your stance. I have NOTHING against athletics...I played college baseball, my daughter will be attending Sam Houston for track....but she didn't depend on SPORTS (nor did I) and it is NOT the means to the end...she is an HONOR STUDENT FIRST....

[quote name="cougar14" post="1413855" timestamp="1371490402"] [quote author=Craig S link=topic=112483.msg1413757#msg1413757 date=1371479992] [quote author=JB94 link=topic=112483.msg1413735#msg1413735 date=1371475270] High School coaching salaries ...should they make more?  No, there's way too much emphasis as it is on sports in grade school. Imagine what we'd be if only half the same emphasis and pressure were put on reading, writing, math and science. This is not college where if they win, it could mean millions to their schools. How about the players? I have never said this on a message board before, but dumb question. See answer above. These are children and sports should ALWAYS be secondary to education because the chances that any of them will play professionally [color=red](or at any other level beyond HS) [/color]are way too slim. [/quote] I agree! [quote]Teachers and Coaches pay levels should be performance based. Like most jobs.[/quote] 1st - how do you judge performance in a classroom? Lets even the playing field...every student in the school must be allowed on the team, and every kid must get equal playing time...like in the classroom 2nd - IF parents would work with their kids at home on academics as they do sports this wouldn't be an issue. 3rd - there's a reason why they are called STUDENT athletes in that order, how does the commercial go...400 some odd thousand NCAA athletes (more in HS) and MOST of us will be going pro in something other than sports... [b] 4th - one of the dumbest things I've ever heard was that sports give opportunities to some kids to get an education that otherwise wouldn't even stay in school....priorities are JACKED UP! from parents, teachers, coaches alike, if this mid set is whats being taught or depended on[/b]. [/quote]That is a stupid statement if you live in The Woodlands or somewhere else where that type of stuff isn't an issue, I bet the folks ay Ozen or other places similar have a different view. [b]I couldn't accept a scholarship offer because of grades so that tells you about my high school, [/b]I made the Dean's list my last semester of college and [b]the only reason I got to that point was because I had to stay eligible to play.[/b] Same can be said for motivating a kid to make good grades in high school to even be able to receive a scholarship. I'm a democrat though so my views are probably wrong on this board. :( [/quote] Not because of the HS you went to....and if that was your only motivation...then your PARENTS failed you...or maybe YOU can take accountability for your own laziness or lack of motivation to just be a better more educated person.

I just looked up some numbers. less than 3% of HS athletes play at the college level...and less than .25% go pro....a terrible investment by any other standard.

[quote name="JB94" post="1413735" timestamp="1371475270"] High School coaching salaries ...should they make more?  No, there's way too much emphasis as it is on sports in grade school. Imagine what we'd be if only half the same emphasis and pressure were put on reading, writing, math and science. This is not college where if they win, it could mean millions to their schools. How about the players? I have never said this on a message board before, but dumb question. See answer above. These are children and sports should ALWAYS be secondary to education because the chances that any of them will play professionally [color=red](or at any other level beyond HS) [/color]are way too slim. [/quote] I agree! [quote]Teachers and Coaches pay levels should be performance based. Like most jobs.[/quote] 1st - how do you judge performance in a classroom? Lets even the playing field...every student in the school must be allowed on the team, and every kid must get equal playing time...like in the classroom 2nd - IF parents would work with their kids at home on academics as they do sports this wouldn't be an issue. 3rd - there's a reason why they are called STUDENT athletes in that order, how does the commercial go...400 some odd thousand NCAA athletes (more in HS) and MOST of us will be going pro in something other than sports... 4th - one of the dumbest things I've ever heard was that sports give opportunities to some kids to get an education that otherwise wouldn't even stay in school....priorities are JACKED UP! from parents, teachers, coaches alike, if this mid set is whats being taught or depended on.

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1413041" timestamp="1371134959"] [quote author=Craig S link=topic=112483.msg1413035#msg1413035 date=1371134182] [quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=112483.msg1412929#msg1412929 date=1371090464] There are 1A AD/HC's that make 100,000 a year. At least they have two job titles. lol. [b]Coaches work their butts off, they deserve every penny.[/b] [/quote] And "Teachers" don't? First, I don't believe the head football coach should have the AD title. [b]They have that so they can pay them more. I think the AD should be a separate job[/b] (as in the bigger districts) I think a football coach as the AD is a conflict of interest. Now...my coaching friends aren't going to like me much for this approach, and even less when I say...maybe they shouldn't be paid at all. Many "select" coaches put as much time or MORE into the sport they love without any compensation...pay, expenses, etc. because they love kids, and love teaching the sport. After all, school (learning) should be the first priority, and the notion of "well without sports, some kids wouldn't stay in school" or "sports is the only thing that gives some kids the opportunity to move on" just don't cut it. My kid is on athletic scholarship....but SHE also is an honor grad....she didn't DEPEND on her athletic abilities to advance to the next level....it's just a past time.... and NO, players should NOT, under any circumstance be paid [/quote] So instead of paying 1 guy lets say $65k a year to do a HC Football and AD job... you would rather smaller schools pay a HC $50k and then pay an AD $55k a year to be AD? so if one guy does it its a total of $65k and if two guys $105K.... which one would you rather have to pay for as an ISD... do you think the taxpayers of that district would rather 1 guy and extra money for different things throughout the district... or take away from other programs to pay 2? [/quote] Classroom teachers don't make $55K and $65K at these smaller schools....besides, where do you get these numbers...there isn't a AD/HC making as little as $65K in the state. "Now...my coaching friends aren't going to like me much for this approach, and even less when I say...maybe they shouldn't be paid at all. " ^^^^ or this! There isn't a bigger sports fan in the world than me.....there isn't a person in the world who like winning more than me....but the cost of HS sports is crazy! And this is just an argumentative subject....HS sports, ESPECIALLY FOOTBALL isn't going anywhere...neither is the cost...in fact...I agree with an earlier poster...it's only gonna get more expensive as the years pass.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1412929" timestamp="1371090464"] There are 1A AD/HC's that make 100,000 a year. At least they have two job titles. lol. [b]Coaches work their butts off, they deserve every penny.[/b] [/quote] And "Teachers" don't? First, I don't believe the head football coach should have the AD title. They have that so they can pay them more. I think the AD should be a separate job (as in the bigger districts) I think a football coach as the AD is a conflict of interest. Now...my coaching friends aren't going to like me much for this approach, and even less when I say...maybe they shouldn't be paid at all. Many "select" coaches put as much time or MORE into the sport they love without any compensation...pay, expenses, etc. because they love kids, and love teaching the sport. After all, school (learning) should be the first priority, and the notion of "well without sports, some kids wouldn't stay in school" or "sports is the only thing that gives some kids the opportunity to move on" just don't cut it. My kid is on athletic scholarship....but SHE also is an honor grad....she didn't DEPEND on her athletic abilities to advance to the next level....it's just a past time.... and NO, players should NOT, under any circumstance be paid

[quote name="wackpack" post="1412733" timestamp="1371036607"] [quote author=Youvegottabekiddingme link=topic=112166.msg1412464#msg1412464 date=1370920231] [quote author=Craig S link=topic=112166.msg1412459#msg1412459 date=1370917289] [quote author=midcountymadness link=topic=112166.msg1412158#msg1412158 date=1370753663] [quote author=TASO Ump link=topic=112166.msg1411303#msg1411303 date=1370523644] All Players that is not listed on the roster " The coach did not nominate the player or the player declined to play" every player that was nominated will play if the player was available. The roster is available on the TASO web site [url=[Hidden Content]] [/quote] I think you could have found better way of saying this or left it unsaid all together. [/quote] Why? [/quote] Must be coaches that didn't nominate some players....... [/quote] I know a couple players that should have played in  this game but was not nominated.  I'm sure there is more [/quote] These games should be called the "TASO Beaumont Scholarship Games" its for a noble cause and a great idea. However, when all nominees are allowed to play, not all (in our/your/their opinion) good players are not nominated, or there is not a selection process from the nominees...this is hardly and "All Star Game".

Congrats Kris

Great job Montana.

[quote name="midcountymadness" post="1412158" timestamp="1370753663"] [quote author=TASO Ump link=topic=112166.msg1411303#msg1411303 date=1370523644] All Players that is not listed on the roster " The coach did not nominate the player or the player declined to play" every player that was nominated will play if the player was available. The roster is available on the TASO web site [url=[Hidden Content]] [/quote] I think you could have found better way of saying this or left it unsaid all together. [/quote] Why?

[quote name="Cheater" post="1410259" timestamp="1370194111"] [quote author=bigocat link=topic=112245.msg1410254#msg1410254 date=1370193148] Are you going to teach her to swing a golf club rotational or leaneure ?????? [/quote] Now that funny! [/quote] That is funny...but the whole purpose is to not have to "teach" or "coach" anything anymore....being just a parent (or grandparent) is da bomb....

[quote name="Slam14" post="1409171" timestamp="1369861301"] [quote author=Craig S link=topic=112245.msg1409167#msg1409167 date=1369859789] [quote author=NEWS link=topic=112245.msg1409139#msg1409139 date=1369857833] sure miss the good old days there were some epic battles between myself and craig [/quote] On AND off the field, games between the 94 GT Shockers and the 93 Orange Crush were "epic" no doubt! [/quote] No doubt! Will never forget those.  [color=red][u][b] I wish we would have had video back in the old days! [/b][/u][/color] Hold on! Somebody call an administrator...I just noticed NEWS only has 26 smites?  That can't be right...there has to be more than 26 umpires on here.  ;)  I guess that's the new calm, passive, and low keyed NEWS. [/quote] Dude, telling our age for sure.... Yes, notice I didn't get mad at ME (Tigers12) and boycott the site during heated times....so I STILL have all my original smites...ALL zillion of them! I have a 5 yr old grand daughter, maybe in a few years .... I'll get some video of this go round, however...I'm pushing GOLF, already bought her clubs!

[quote name="NEWS" post="1409139" timestamp="1369857833"] sure miss the good old days there were some epic battles between myself and craig [/quote] On AND off the field, games between the 94 GT Shockers and the 93 Orange Crush were "epic" no doubt!

[quote name="Slam14" post="1409113" timestamp="1369856959"] [quote author=Craig S link=topic=112245.msg1408983#msg1408983 date=1369842393] [quote author=NEWS link=topic=112245.msg1408959#msg1408959 date=1369838844] Is this the same gun you used back in the day i remember one of you pitchers was throwing 70 at 12 u. Sorry could not help my self. [/quote] its all about the tuning forks.....yes, but that was when she was in league ball....us travel coaches screwed her up, she finished her career throwing only 52mph....BUT...she had movement...lol [/quote] LOL!  I wish I had a dollar for every kid travel ball coaches screwed up! I'd be rich!  Those guys are crazy!! [color=red][size=14pt][u][i][b]Does that gun come with a money back gaurantee?  [/b][/i][/u][/size][/color] NEWS, put the shovel down and quit digging up old skeletons!  ;D [/quote] That they will throw 52 at 12U after being coached by a travel coach....sure!

[quote name="NEWS" post="1408959" timestamp="1369838844"] Is this the same gun you used back in the day i remember one of you pitchers was throwing 70 at 12 u. Sorry could not help my self. [/quote] its all about the tuning forks.....yes, but that was when she was in league ball....us travel coaches screwed her up, she finished her career throwing only 52mph....BUT...she had movement...lol

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Congrats to all. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="Ty Cobb" post="1402545" timestamp="1368108068"] At first I thought they were talking about a coach getting tossed but now I think it is someone else.  The post said someone that casts judgement and has a pretty influencing title within the district.  [b]Someone has to have some information.[/b] [/quote] OH, Someone does....but this is one of their own....don't expect to hear much on this....

[quote name="Critter" post="1401200" timestamp="1367695795"] Where's those Tiger bats at? [/quote] Perhaps they were over shadowed by a certain person who cast judgement (death penalty) to others while acting way worse (and getting tossed from game)...not to mention an adult, and a pretty influencing title within the district at that....kinda surprised nothing has been mentioned on here about that....then again...not really!

[quote name="DAWGMOM54" post="1401833" timestamp="1367930402"] I am just starting out to but what I have found out I hope can be hlepful. *Keep looking on here for tryouts *Call the coaches and ask them what positions they are really looking for *what is the coaches experience, how long have they coached, where, and their record *what level is the team (player development or studs) *how much does the team cost *where will they be playing (local or out of town) Have your daughter go practice with the teams and see which one she likes and fits. Initially-talk to the parents, ask lots of questions about the team. [color=red][size=14pt][i][u][b]And whatever team your daughter does make, dont tell your business to the other parents. (Keep your business off the street) Be a positive mom to all the girls and cheer even when they are losing 20-1.[/b][/u][/i][/size][/color] Continue practicing in the yard with your daughter and taking her to batting lessons, pitching (?), anything to help her succeed. [/quote] plus 1 (more if I could give it)

yes...really...thugs. or are you trying to convince me and others that wos honor students are to blame for this....i guess i could have said piece of its....either way....if the shoe fits. and yes, every school has them....but in this case...in this article its about wos thugs....if people need to be more accountable and not be so worried as to who else did what or what part someone else had it the crime....and ill say again....smack talk on social media or face to face is not a crime.....jumping people and beating them up is called assault, therefore it is a crime.....no more to the story needed.

[quote name="stang4life" post="1394236" timestamp="1365894567"] WO-S and Silsbee both need to get a handle on this.  This has been brewing since the January basketball game in which there was a major brawl involving students and parents/fans...from both schools.  We sent extra police protection and staff when WO-S played at Silsbee in February because of threats made on social media.  WO-S will handle their kids involved in this, but Silsbee needs to do the same.  No one went to the media when the majority of the Silsbee team showed up at our first playoff game at EC and tried to fight.  No one went to the media or pressed charges when a car full of kids in an orange Mustang followed a SUV full of Mustang fans and threw stuff, hitting their car because they had hoped all the hype on social media would settle down.  Those involved need to be handled firmly and abruptly because that type of behavior is unacceptable.  I have confidence that our students will be held accountable, as they should be. [/quote] whats your point...didnt run to the media....what has that got to do with anything.....thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard. not to mention, you compare bantering on social media with actual physical attacks.....been brewing....so you have knowledge of wos students planning an attack....i read alot of 'smack talk' on here....bc - silsbee baseball.....hj- silsbee basketball....etc....so why is it wos actually carries out attacks.....thugs...simple as that.

[quote name="hardball10" post="1391459" timestamp="1365128879"] I know this new format gives more kids a chance to get to regionals but on more meet before regionals offers up another chance for injury.  Any opinions. [/quote] 1A has been doing it for a while. It doesn't really give more kids a chance to get to regionals, the same amount will advance. It does however allow for kids in a stronger district to advance over kids from a weaker district.