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That is not how you do that. Lufkin would never and has never played anyone three classifications below them, most schools never do. I guess different times and different perspectives. What happen to the West Brook program? They use to be quite the challenge to play just a few years ago. Frankly I would feel more shame if a lower classification team like Silsbee or Lumberton beat my team or even played them close. I'd have to burn my Panther shirts. LOL
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The question I have to ask is why BWB is playing a 4A DII school anyway, three classifications below them??
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Little Rock Southwest (12) @ Lufkin (57) - FINAL
PackAttack replied to jdawg03's topic in High School Football
Well, we needed a game any game to fill out the schedule back in June. Still don't know much about Little Rock SW except they have a bunch of decently looking athletes who are not well coached. Hard to figure looking at them, because there is talent on that team. Lufkin took some JV players for this game too, (no game Thursday) even they got in on the action in the 4th, it was 43-6 at the half so what do you do. It was more a scrimmage situation than anything else, Lufkin sat three key defensive starters for his game, and again played without our starting QB in the line up for the 3rd week in a row. Coutee a WR has been playing QB. Lufkin did what you do to a team that is not very good. They gave up two TD on fluke plays, a certain INT that ended up in WR hands for a long TD run, then a double fumble, picked up by D, fumbled again and then original fumble guy picking it up taking it for TD against 2nd team D. We traveled 3 hours to play as the home team, while LRSW traveled 2 hours to Texarkana. Next week we head to Tyler. The Panthers should be at full strength for the first time this season. A good comparison here. 6A Longview defeated @ Lufkin 7-3 the 1st game of the year. Last night 5A DII SOC @ Longview won 45-44 in a place that is one of the hardest places to win in the State of Texas, Lobo Stadium. I think Lufkin D is pretty good, the O has found some footing the past two weeks with a backup QB. Everything starts for real in a couple weeks, and we can throw out this portion of the season. -
As tough as our last two seasons were in Lufkin, we did beat these AMC kids both years when they were sophs and juniors. My personal belief is both AMC and Weiss are very good teams this year, not world beaters. Too many mistakes and TOs and special team flubs between two Top 10 teams. Just saying. AMC just stalled in 2nd half and Weiss tried to play Santa Claus with TOs in the 1st half. Lots of missed opportunities.
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Well, Forney graduated some key components from their last two seasons and it shows, they returned 5/5 from last year. Forney gave up 30 to LH who is ranked #75 in 6A. Forney has a young defense, they may be a little overrated in the polls.
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The Longview TD came with 2 seconds left in the 1st half, a 48 yd run after the Lobo RB fumbled the ball, everybody is going to get it, the ball bounces back up perfectly into the RBs hands, he changes direction and goes for the TD. It was good reaction by the RB on a busted play with defensive guys on the ground diving for the ball. It was a great defensive game on both sides. Lufkin played w/o their starting QB using a starting WR at QB. A very wet and rainy night in Lufkin. Lufkin O had their chances but could not capitalize. 6A Longview is ranked #16 in the nation by On3 Sports site. Ranked #31 in State by DCTF.
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Don't put much stock in their predictions for Lufkin. Can't speak for anyone else.
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Lufkin has their offense figured out. This unit will be a completely different talent group from the past two years. If the OL is adequate the skilled players are abundant with this group.
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BU and Westbrook moving to 5A DI from 6A, playing in district with the likes of North Shore, Summer Creek, Atascocita and CE King has been overlooked a bit. So for me it's not a stretch to say it becomes a little more even ground for them in this district. That was one stout 6A district the past two years. That's why I say this could be one stout 5A DI district this year. There are no sure things for PA, Lufkin, BH or Ball IMO, some folks are going to need to earn their spots this year.
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I don't buy Barbers Hill 6th with their coaching staff and returning offensive guys. Don't think they drop that much after last season. Also can't comment much on United, Westbrook or Ball. All new district for us, so will have to learn a little bit on the fly. I've witnessed PAM a couple times the past two years. I see what they have. As I mentioned earlier, 6A Longview and 5A DI Tyler on the road will be great test for Lufkin in non district. I do believe District 9-5A DI will be more competitive than some think.
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Probably have a lot more to say about the Lufkin Panthers later on, possibly after the scrimmage with Huntsville next week. Coach Quick, like John Outlaw before him never demonstrates a lot of importance to win a scrimmage. To them it's more about getting the finishing pieces and parts in place for the 1st game of the year. That has always been a little frustrating to fans, it's just the way it has been for a long time. Lufkin is coming off a 3 year drought from the playoffs, lots of eyes on this group of kids, and closer eye on the coaching staff by the fans. Probably should be more LP fan excitement about this season, and there is every reason to be upbeat. However just think lots of folks are taking a wait and see approach. The talent is certainly there in abundance, the team chemistry is for sure there, did I mention a closer eye on coaching? Yes, I did, and that's the aspect most fans are watching the closest. On paper, everything points to a dynamic year, we have been here before more times than I would like to mention. So we will see how this flows. The Longview and Tyler games will tells us a great deal, for both will be either better or as good as anyone else in 9-5A DI this year IMO. For me, I'm not counting any chicken just yet!
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Lufkin is going to be a load for anyone to play this year. Folks can not compare them to the last three years talent-wise, except a couple of the same coaching are still there. Lufkin has wasted more great talent under our OC at Lufkin than I can count, hopefully the talent itself on that side of the ball will supersede over that issue. Not worried about the defense, there are some rough dawgs on that side of the ball.
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Those two kids out front in that newspaper photo are the Panthers two starting Rbs, (L) Gavin Phillips and (R) DeMarkus Chinn.
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Yes, should announce this soon.
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Old Ape, no one has made any excuses. Your just stirring your own pot you know nothing about. Region II districts are no joke. You don't know much about Lufkin history either. We were in THW/Conroe/Klein district from about 2004-2012, and again with THW/Beaumont/Tomball in 2016 and 2017. Travel? Don't cry to me about Beaumont driving to THW. Then we were in a district with College Station, Magnolia, Waller and Bryan. Then with New Caney/College Station/ Magnolia/Waller, Cleveland and Tomball in 2018-2019, and We just got out of a two year swing with Longview, Forney, Lancaster, McKinney North, Tyler and the Mesquite schools. Go check a map on that, it can get confusing, it is for us too. LOL In the 70s, 80s and 90s and 2001 State Championship year, we had an all East Texas district that over that time included the schools in Texarkana(Texas High), Longview (Longview, Longview Pine Tree), Tyler ( John Tyler, Tyler Legacy), Marshall and Nacogdoches. You see, we travel good, cause we have never had any other choice. Looking forward to playing you guys this year. Lufkin has 48 seniors on the roster, they have a chance to be pretty good this year.
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Yep, missed the playoffs three straight years, there is no excuse IMO. Can't blame the stacked district we were in the past two years either, anyone should be able to finish 4th in a district. Let's just say It wasn't for the lack of talent. SMH It must be nice when folks live in an area were you can drive to your games in the time it takes one to can eat a Big Mac and fries. You are not stuck in the middle of nowhere in East Texas where there are only two 5ADI teams (Lufkin, Tyler). Your team wasn't facing having to drive 8-9 hours round trip to play football games, that included sub varsity games on Thursday night. I'm sure you would have been okay with a 8-9 hour drive. Right? I think not, you guys would have done the same petitioning we did. Agreed there was poor planning on the part of our HC/AD for not accepting whatever opportunity was offered right after the UIL approved the move. Fully understand you guys did not want Lufkin in your district either, and you didn't want to make the trek to Lufkin. Most schools who are not from East Texas ever like the drive to Lufkin. Sorry, all water under the bridge now, and we might be stuck with a 9 game schedule too. No fault but our own. Looking forward to coming down to Ball to play. As I have said before we travel well and so do our fans. Going to be a fun year.
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.....and I am positive in 2026 the U I L will again move Lufkin around like a pawn, south, north or west to fill out some 7-8 team district. We are stuck in 5A DI for the foreseeable future, too big to fall to 5A DII and (2159) not big enough to move to 6A. The best fit for us would be 5A DII as far as having an East Texas district and decent travel. Enough schools to have two 5A DII districts. Enrollment precludes this happening of course, for us and Tyler High. We are the only 5A DI schools in all of East Texas. Tyler had to stay in that 7-5ADI district. It was a bum deal for them too, although they are at least 2 to 2 1/2 hours closer round trip to those South of Ft Worth schools than Lufkin. It's 86 miles from my home to Rose Stadium in Tyler.
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Yep. Well I'm not the one trying to find a Week 3 game. That will be solved one way or another by Coach Quick not myself. We have had to travel longer distances for years, but it's NOT normally a disadvantage, it's more so for the school groups coming TO play in Lufkin. The folks from THW, New Caney and the Dallas area never liked the long trek to Lufkin. Those two games in Baytown and Galveston are not close to the distance and time to have played those South of Ft Worth schools, that's both ways. I'm positive none of them wanted to travel to Lufkin,. Things have not been a perfect situation for Lufkin in a long time, you have to go back almost 10 years the last time Lufkin was in an all East Texas 5A district, and for only a couple years at that, 2014.-2015. Even then, most all (except Nacogdoches 30 min) were 1.5 -2 hour drives to play. You have to go back to 2003 to find an all East Texas set up for us. Having to travel has always been the way for Lufkin and for that matter, all 5A or 6A teams in East Texas. The folks who really have to travel? Those are those West Texas and the Panhandle. teams, all classifications. I can't imagine, that is a different wide open spaces experience altogether.
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Solved everything for us. What do you mean? Lufkin has always had to travel, for 50 years or more to play the bulk of our district opponents. We are stuck in the middle of East Texas with a bunch of smaller schools. Not like you guys all within spiting distance of each other. It's been many years since Nacogdoches was in Lufkin's district, all other opponents are around 100 - 150 miles from us. Going to Beaumont and Baytown is not any different than past district opponents like THW, Conroe, College Station, Longview or Tyler. However, going to play 4 teams South of Ft Worth, there is a big difference don't you think? Thus why we did not' want to be there. It's like the UIL making PAM or Beaumont go to Tyler or Longview to play a district games. Playing football that far away was not the main issue, it was our fans and all the support and performing groups getting there. It was playing the sub varsity games on a Thursday night getting home at 1 AM or later, and the kids needing to be in school on Friday.
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Lufkin still looking for a Week #3 game, had some offers from 3A teams in LA, don't want those guys. 6A Eagle Pass and El Paso Coronado offered IF we would travel half way to San Angelo to play, too far and neither are contenders. Both ended up scheduling each other for non-district. Have been looking around in OK and ARK. The things is, schools are still hiring new coaches, and actually you can sign up for a game as little a weeks before the season begins. Hopefully the coach is able to find a game worth playing to help the team become better. Lufkin fans always travel well, except now they need to learn to travel in a new district. Seems every 2 to 4 years the UIL plays their pawn game, moving Lufkin football around so much we can't form any real district rivalries. One alignment we go North, the next go South, just a pawn to fill out a 7 or 8 team district for the UIL. Whatever UIL nut placed us the first time around in 7-5A with Cleburne, Joshua, Burleson and Waxahachie has no concept of time and space in Texas. To us it's like playing one big non district schedule every year, then we are moved again. The only constant with Lufkin is we do play Longview practically every year, whether in non district or district for the first time in many years these past two seasons. Longview has pretty much owned our tails the past 5 or 6 years. We don't know much about you guys, we have just left a two year stint in a highly talented district up North 8-5A DI with Longview, Forney, Lancaster, McKinney North, Tyler, North Mesquite and West Mesquite. It's going to be interesting to see how things play out this year. I'm not making any predictions for Lufkin because the program has missed the playoffs the past three seasons. There are not good vibes here between the fans and the coaching staff because of this lack of winning. After all we missed those playoffs with a P5 RB who went to Notre Dame. Read into that what you want. Will find out in about 3 months. Anyway, if you know someone looking for a Week #3 game, have them give Coach Todd Quick a call in Lufkin.
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I really liked the PAM band, they are a mini Gambling style. Loud and Proud. Now, as far as the game between Longview and PAM, Wakeland did not run the ball much and didn't have much success when they tried, FW threw at least 50 times in that game last night. PA is a good tackling team and Wakefield had an outstanding TE who made big catches all night from lining him up in various positions. So, I can't say how good PAMs run defense really is because WF did not test it much. Longview will be favored in this game by at least 21 by DCTF. I just think if Longview comes in and doesn't shoot themselves in the foot with penalties and turnovers, they will win comfortably by at least 21. Wakefield was no Longview by any stretch, and they took PAM to OT?? Longview's dynamic run game may be a problem for PAM to control. Just saying, since I've seen both play now.
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5A DI Region II Forney (7-3) Barbers Hill (7-3) Forney favored by 8 5A DI Region II Longview (10-0) Crosby (6-4) Longview favored by 39 5A DI Region II Lancaster (8-2) Humble Kingwood Park (7-3) Lancaster favored by 30 5A DI Region II Port Arthur Memorial (9-1) McKinney North (7-3) PA Memorial by 8 DCTF computer projections for 1st round of playoffs between Districts 7-5A DI and 8-5A DI.
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Just telling you Crosby folks, if you have never played in Longview, your in for a Lobo experience. Everything is Lobo there. The wolf calls and the Longview fans and band on the visitor side. Your down 14 before you get off the bus. The indoctrination is loud and long. Few visitors ever leave Lobo Country with a victory, and if by miracle it should occur, it will be a close nail biter because Longview never goes down easy. My prediction is Longview 56 Crosby 13. Longview is better than anyone you have seen this year or last year. Mark my words.