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There would be no liberty without progression

Trump is loved by conservatives. Especially the alt right

I don’t know how he could be so hated and still manage to be elected. But anyway which democrats weren’t conservative?

I know there are different types of conservatives because everybody’s different period. Except the ones that are programmed to think a certain way. But the fact is the conservatives of the 1800s were mostly democrats and the modern day conservatives are mostly republicans. I consider myself a conservative liberal btw.

My intent wasn’t to separate but rather to include. The fact is those democrats were also conservative. You leave that out and your misleading the people

Liberalism is holding liberal views. Liberal views having to do with liberty. socialism and communism are similar but different. Communism is socialism to a more extreme extent. btw you never answered my question

Well he was a democrat and he was conservative just like 99% of the democrats at that time.

President Grover Cleveland was leader of the pro-business bourbon democrats. That’s conservative

Well your obviously ignoring Mississippi and skipping way over to other countries

As in he wasn’t in agreement with the expanding of civil rights being led by democrats at the time. He disliked it enough to join the republicans who soon became the conservative Republicans we know today.

Liberalism, socialism, and communism are 3 different things. So do you consider conservatives capitalist?

I asked a question. Guess you can’t answer

You sure liberalism ruining the country or that’s just what you’ve been programmed to think?

Strom Thurmond was a Democrat who later switched to a Republican because of his conservatism

Racist CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRAT history. I care nothing about the democrat. I just don’t like deception so yes it feels better to know better. Maybe you, being a conservative, want to hide the fact that they were CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS so you can throw the blame on the democrats and not feel bad about your conservatism.

The fact that the democrats you speak of and want to place all the blame on for racism were CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS is not semantics. It’s a very important fact and can be misleading if you leave that out. Doesn’t matter what type of conservatives, just know they weren’t liberals or progressives. As far as what happened with CT that was just politicians being politicians.

Both parties were mixed between liberal and conservative during JFK’s presidency. The “Dixiecrats” were formed in 1948 as a movement for conservatives to separate from the democrat party. The Dixiecrat party didn’t last long. Some went back to the Democratic Party and some switched to the Republican Party. So you had liberals and conservatives in both parties. JFK didn’t support integration when he was first elected. He first publicly planned on passing the Civil Rights Act around 6 months before he was killed. Neither party supported the bill at first. Both sides had to be coerced. In the end both sides got a majority vote. The republicans had a higher vote percentage wise but there were near twice as many democrats in the house and senate. I would guess it would probably be easier to coerce 10 people into seeing things your way then it would be to coerce 20. Anyway the bill was passed by LBJ, a democrat who is quoted saying “It’s an important gain, but I think we just delivered the south to the Republican Party for a long time to come”. And that’s when even more conservatives switched than before and democrats began marketing to liberals. Rather they’ve been good for the black community since then is one thing but trying to pin the racist history of the 1800s and early 1900s on modern day democrats is a whole other thing. So when you mention the racist history of the democrats just make sure you say the “conservative democrats” to be 100% accurate. Other than that your being deceptive

Wish I could take the credit but there’s nothing creative about it. Conservatives align themselves with other conservatives. Democrats and republicans align with anyone who wants to give them a vote. So when you mention the racist history of the democrats just make sure you say conservative Democrats and you’ll be 100% correct

JFK and 99% of the democrats before him would align themselves with republicans in today’s society. That’s my point. The difference with JFK is he recognized something was wrong with that way of thinking before he was killed.

I’ve allready explained

The fact that conservatives from the south were represented by the democrat party. You leave that part out and your misleading people. Not bitter at all just don’t like deception.

So now you think it’s vice versa? Or did you switch for other reasons?

The WHOLE truth. Not half the truth

Ms Swain has either been deceived or is part of the deception.

The democrats accomplished this through SALESMANSHIP. People keep saying the democrats were responsible for slavery, the KKK and all that. Nope. Conservatives were responsible for that. Democrats and republicans are salesmen. They represent whoever will buy. Democrats once marketed towards conservatives who supported slavery and Jim Crow and all that. They lost conservative support mid 20th century. They began to market to liberals at that point. They have done a good job marketing but haven’t done as good when it comes to delivering promises. The republicans now market to the conservatives