smitty

No, not a waste of time at all.  It's all about winning.  If a team can consistently win while giving up 400-500 yards a game, then they'll have a shot at District and State Championships.  But, James, you are a sensible person, you know in the long run that's not gonna happen.  I have my opinion where the problem is.  Again, my opinion, make the change and you'll see a 1,000% improvement.  I've watched this long enough and feel my opinion is valid.  Hey, your opinion is that he's great.  Well, we'll see the outcome of the season.  But you must understand, I don't think our kids are the problem.  I think they can handle anybody.  So, something else, in my opinion, is going on.  The same thing that's been going on for a while.  [quote name="James Mosley" post="867018" timestamp="1286373879"] Smitty, Let me break it down for you. Friday night Nederland will load the box with all they got to stop the run. They will make Livingston throw the ball. Easy scheme right, there is not a DC in the country who would do different. Now, because you don't like out current DC you will think he failed if Livingston runs us for 400 yards. Players make the plays, coaches put them in position to do so. If you see 8 or 9 in the box to try and stop the run and they still run on us find somewhere else to throw the blame. I see it like this. Our team maybe has just now found  themselves and found out how to play with an attitude. I look for Nederland to hang if our offense can roll. Who really cares about stats as long as the W comes at the end. I'm done, I know this was a waste of time anyway.... [/quote]

Who, me??!!  LOL!!!!    ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D [quote name="bulldogbacker" post="866957" timestamp="1286366757"] Smitty, just shut up ;D ;D ;D [/quote]

Actually, I hope you are right! [quote name="DOGS1988" post="867102" timestamp="1286382983"] DOG fans, if you remember, the very same comments were being posted last year about our expected performance and outcome of the game.  We went to Livingston and showed them we were there to take care of business just like we will do this Friday night.  If anyone thinks that our team is not gonna be fired up for this Friday has a surprise coming.  We are gonna give them a heck of a fight!!!  We beat 'em on their home turf last year  and we will do it again this Friday. GO BULLDOGS !!!!!!! [/quote]

  ;D [quote name="GrayDog" post="865723" timestamp="1286222225"] I can't believe we gotta go to Livingston again this year and listen to Reba announce football for 4 quarters - 2 years in a row...  what's up with that?  I think I would rather argue with smitty about the DC... [/quote]

Obviously YOU do! You commented on my post.   LOL!!!!    ;D    ::) [quote name="BaseBow" post="864868" timestamp="1286115706"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=73891.msg864860#msg864860 date=1286115171] [glow=red,2,300]Hummmm, wonder what I can say about this one[/glow].  I'll have to think on it for a few.    :-\ [/quote/] I would be willing to bet no body cares  :o [/quote]

Let me reiterate:  I want Nederland to win.  I want Nederland to win all its games.  So to ask this after a victory tells me you are not understanding my complaint.  But I'll be glad to reply to anything.  ;D PS - Get ready if the yards are massive come Sat. night or Sunday morning.  Because I'm sure there might be a whole lot of quite going on.  And I'm sure I'll be asking where some people are at.  But I truly hope that's NOT the case.  ;)

I'm not an expert, per se.  But I do know what Ned's defensive problem is.  It doesn't take an expert to see this, though.  But one has to wonder how low the HC's team will have to sink before he makes changes?  Even Bob West has admitted there are rumblings about the HC performance.  When it's the HC's neck on the line, trust me, he'll make some changes.  ;)  [quote name="The-NHS" post="865100" timestamp="1286138500"] [quote author=football link=topic=73854.msg865035#msg865035 date=1286133157] How many tackles did the DC miss.  How many blown coverages did he make?  These are the "FACTS".  He can only put the kids in position he can't make the 16 and 17 year olds do the job.  At least they were usually lined up correctly.  You can't say the same for png's alignment versus the wildcat. [/quote] football- don't waste your time replying to this "expert." You have to log close to 1000 posts before having a valid opinion. Smitty here is an expert. Most likely started 4 years on varsity in high school and went on to have a prosperous collegiate career only to miss the pro's because of a bad knee.  [/quote]

How long have you been following Ned football?  You think this is just a recent phenomena?  I have been pointing out, in my opinion, a problem here for many years. With the exception of 5-7 years, this DC has had performance problems. During those years, I thought the problem was corrected.  Not the case.  We are back to the way it was. We can go back to DeRouen's stint if you wish.  One can ALWAYS go back and read the newspapers and find the actual numbers (stats) for any year.  Meaning the facts.  I'm willing because I know what they'll show. Are you? [quote name="ispeakjive" post="866899" timestamp="1286337376"] I am not blaming the kids from any particular season, just stating facts as you always demand of everyone else.  And, after inferring that I was blaming the kids, you failed to address any of the other issues I brought up.  That speaks volumes, in my opinion.   To just say that replacing the DC would "improve the defense 1000%" lacks any basis in fact.  You are losing your clothes, emperor. [quote author=smitty link=topic=73772.msg866893#msg866893 date=1286336628] First of all, AGAIN, I don't blame the kids.  Missed tackles and giving up yards, I blame the coaches and DC in particular.  Like I said before, I'll leave blaming the kids to others!   ;) [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=73772.msg866879#msg866879 date=1286335093] Even if they are very talented, it is unrealistic to expect a sophomore-heavy defense to shut teams down week in and week out.  In my opinion, you can afford to do that with a year like this where your offense is solid.  If the talent is not great on defense I think it is unfair to blame the DC.  If you look back at the good defenses from the past five or ten years, they were loaded with talent: Piletere, Sanchez, Cobb, Johnson, and so on.  With all due respect to the last couple years' kids, there was a little drop-off.  This group can and will be good.   If you want to criticize or judge a DC, do it on scheme or how he adjusts during games.  I think all of that is solid right now, we have just lacked playmakers the last couple years.  Throw out last year and this is a rebuilding year.   Now, if you want to look at an example of a DC not scheming or adjusting properly, look no further than the PNG  DC last Friday.  With all due respect to our neighbors across the tracks, they never adjusted to or stopped the Wildcat and that was a big factor in the game.  I was shocked (and glad) that they never stepped up to stop Sonnier ripping it up the middle.   Show me something like that Smitty and then I will quit drinking the Kool-Aid.  Saying they miss tackles or give up yards doesn't cut it.     [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

Well, we play bad on "D" and you constantly take up for the coach.  So what's left?  You may not come out and say it but you infer it by the statements you do make.    ::) [quote name="Penny" post="866890" timestamp="1286336527"] [And it's not the kids fault.  You can blame them if you wish.  You take up for the DC so there's only one other aspect that's the problem then, right.  But I appreciate you coming out of hiding every now and then and TRYING to show me where I'm wrong.  But those darn stats year in and year out keep getting in the way.   ;D Never, not one time blamed our kids.  Sometimes 2+2 = 4, no matter how bad we want it to equal 10.   [/quote]

First of all, AGAIN, I don't blame the kids.  Missed tackles and giving up yards, I blame the coaches and DC in particular.  Like I said before, I'll leave blaming the kids to others!   ;) [quote name="ispeakjive" post="866879" timestamp="1286335093"] Even if they are very talented, it is unrealistic to expect a sophomore-heavy defense to shut teams down week in and week out.  In my opinion, you can afford to do that with a year like this where your offense is solid.  If the talent is not great on defense I think it is unfair to blame the DC.  If you look back at the good defenses from the past five or ten years, they were loaded with talent: Piletere, Sanchez, Cobb, Johnson, and so on.  With all due respect to the last couple years' kids, there was a little drop-off.  This group can and will be good.   If you want to criticize or judge a DC, do it on scheme or how he adjusts during games.  I think all of that is solid right now, we have just lacked playmakers the last couple years.  Throw out last year and this is a rebuilding year.   Now, if you want to look at an example of a DC not scheming or adjusting properly, look no further than the PNG  DC last Friday.  With all due respect to our neighbors across the tracks, they never adjusted to or stopped the Wildcat and that was a big factor in the game.  I was shocked (and glad) that they never stepped up to stop Sonnier ripping it up the middle.   Show me something like that Smitty and then I will quit drinking the Kool-Aid.  Saying they miss tackles or give up yards doesn't cut it.     [/quote]

You have my answer. You may not like it but you have it.  Bring in a new DC and you will see an 1,000% improvement.  No doubt in my mind!    ;) [quote name="The-NHS" post="866862" timestamp="1286333935"] I still have yet to see your expert review on how we should be a better defensive team. I'm not talking about your typical change the DC answer. I want your expert review on how our defense can be better. Anyone can get on here and post Fire the DC. Lets see a little more substance. [/quote]

I just used last year as another example.  I could have pulled year before that and the one before that.   The only agenda I have is to see that we have the best coaches to teach the kids.  I wish we had the best DC in the state of Texas.  And we were allowing very few yards and points.  But you and I know that's not the case.  We have stats to prove it year in and year out.  And sadly for many years to come I'm afraid.  But that part is speculation at this point.  But history does sometimes keep repeating itself.  Like I've said many times before, nothing personal here.  Just looking at performance.  And it's not the kids fault.  You can blame them if you wish.  You take up for the DC so there's only one other aspect that's the problem then, right.  But I appreciate you coming out of hiding every now and then and TRYING to show me where I'm wrong.  But those darn stats year in and year out keep getting in the way.   ;D [quote name="Penny" post="866841" timestamp="1286331808"] Surely an objective poster like yourself Smitty, can be honest about the travesty that injuries wrecked on our offense last year.  For the better part of the year, our defense was on the field for significant stretches of the game.  Please show your objectivity and take last year out of it.  I'm sure you can strum up other performances to tear the mans job performance down, you being who you are and all, but I would think even you could see last year as a special case of hard luck all the way around for the Dogs.  Ironically, it was a stellar defensive performance last year against Vidor that got us the crucial win to vault us into the playoffs, overcoming all the tough luck.  For the most part I just read what you have to say, but sometimes YOUR AGENDA goes over the line, this was one of those times. [quote author=smitty link=topic=73772.msg866799#msg866799 date=1286328884] No, you make some good points.  All I'm saying is any team that gives up 400-500 yards a game will not win in the long run.  The young defense argument is always used.  A lot of times I do not buy that, but...   But along with that argument, we must have had a senior dominated defense last year.  We had pretty much the same type of performance.  So, what happened there?  There's only one constant!! [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=73772.msg866793#msg866793 date=1286328256] No one is saying that the defense did not give up a lot of yards or that PNG put up a lot of points.  But the undeniable facts that you can't dispute are that the Dogs won, the defense made the stops they needed to, the starting middle linebacker is out with an injury, and that we are starting a lot of Sophs on defense.  There are your facts. Everyone would love to see the defense pitch shutouts every week, but that is not realistic with any team.  Good coaches and staffs play and coach to their strengths and the strength of this team is the offense.  If the defense can keep us in games (regardless of the yards given up), you hope that the offense does its job and the wins come. But, I am sure these facts are irrelevant to you since I have not recorded a million posts.   [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

Well, the point I was making is if we can't play good defense with seniors and can't play good defense with young ones, then there must be another problem.  [quote name="ispeakjive" post="866821" timestamp="1286330689"] I'll take young and talented over senior dominated and average any day.  The potential for improvement is there and I think there is a lot of upside to this group.  The DC is constant but neither he nor Neumann have any control over the talent level.  As best I know neither one of them were present at conception for any of their players.  They have to play the hand they were dealt and they have a pretty good hand right now on offense.  I don't disagree with you in the long run about that kind of yardage, but if your offense compensates that dictates how you play for that particular season.  [/quote]

No, you make some good points.  All I'm saying is any team that gives up 400-500 yards a game will not win in the long run.  The young defense argument is always used.  A lot of times I do not buy that, but...   But along with that argument, we must have had a senior dominated defense last year.  We had pretty much the same type of performance.  So, what happened there?  There's only one constant!! [quote name="ispeakjive" post="866793" timestamp="1286328256"] No one is saying that the defense did not give up a lot of yards or that PNG put up a lot of points.  But the undeniable facts that you can't dispute are that the Dogs won, the defense made the stops they needed to, the starting middle linebacker is out with an injury, and that we are starting a lot of Sophs on defense.  There are your facts. Everyone would love to see the defense pitch shutouts every week, but that is not realistic with any team.  Good coaches and staffs play and coach to their strengths and the strength of this team is the offense.  If the defense can keep us in games (regardless of the yards given up), you hope that the offense does its job and the wins come. But, I am sure these facts are irrelevant to you since I have not recorded a million posts.   [/quote]

That's a broad statement.  You may be right, it might not be the only solution but it would be a great first step.  At least I have a solution.  ;D [quote name="dawgnut" post="865316" timestamp="1286157213"] smitty's only solution is to fire the DC, he will never post a solution other than that because the second he did someone would be able to use his facts against him. And that's not going to happen because he only has questions, not answers. [/quote]

What, being a newbie to board with no facts is a personal attack????    ???  ??? [quote name="rykerx144" post="865109" timestamp="1286139264"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=73772.msg865101#msg865101 date=1286138630] Not down grading a "newbies" post.  [b][size=14pt]I just say it when they offer nothing to the conversation other than a personal attack with no facts. [/size] [/b]  If any off them would defend the DC with facts other then touchy-feely, comments or personal attacks then I wouldn't say anything about being a newbie!   ::) [quote author=The-NHS link=topic=73772.msg865099#msg865099 date=1286138284] [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=73772.msg865073#msg865073 date=1286136316] Sincerest apologies, Smitty.  I pegged it wrong.  You are just a veteran, naysaying tool.  Love, Newbie [/quote] I enjoy reading posts that downgrade a poster's opinion because he has not tallied close to 1000 posts on the setx message board "where everyone knows everything." That is comical to say the least. [/quote] [/quote] I enjoy the irony in that statment!  [/quote]

I have a feeling we'll be having this discussion for years to come.  But, you are right, only time will tell. [quote name="dawgnut" post="865313" timestamp="1286156920"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=73772.msg865029#msg865029 date=1286132650] So, if we would have passed the bond, then our DC would do a better job?!   This is what I like about this forum: Comedians everywhere!   LOL!!!!    ;D    ::) [quote author=dawgnut link=topic=73772.msg865011#msg865011 date=1286130474] [quote author=smitty link=topic=73772.msg864973#msg864973 date=1286126571] Oh, I'm in charge of the defense that keeps giving up massive yardage?  Funny!  ???   ::) [quote author=dawgnut link=topic=73772.msg864354#msg864354 date=1286061146] Don't try using logic with smitty, if he understood logic then he would be able to see that he's the problem, not the DC. [/quote] [/quote] No smitty you are one of the "don't care" folks that voted against the bond, so that makes it your fault! Think about it, you think you have all the answers! [/quote] [/quote] Your so smart smitty think about it, in a year or two you may figure it out, then again maybe not! [/quote]

So, newbie , you come here and try to tell other people what they can and cannot read or post?  Since you are a newbie, you probably do not know what the original contention on my part is.  And if you do, support your side with facts.  ::) [quote name="The-NHS" post="865100" timestamp="1286138500"] [quote author=football link=topic=73854.msg865035#msg865035 date=1286133157] How many tackles did the DC miss.  How many blown coverages did he make?  These are the "FACTS".  He can only put the kids in position he can't make the 16 and 17 year olds do the job.  At least they were usually lined up correctly.  You can't say the same for png's alignment versus the wildcat. [/quote] football- don't waste your time replying to this "expert." You have to log close to 1000 posts before having a valid opinion. Smitty here is an expert. Most likely started 4 years on varsity in high school and went on to have a prosperous collegiate career only to miss the pro's because of a bad knee.  [/quote]

Not down grading a "newbies" post.  I just say it when they offer nothing to the conversation other than a personal attack with no facts.  If any off them would defend the DC with facts other then touchy-feely, comments or personal attacks then I wouldn't say anything about being a newbie!  ::) [quote name="The-NHS" post="865099" timestamp="1286138284"] [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=73772.msg865073#msg865073 date=1286136316] Sincerest apologies, Smitty.  I pegged it wrong.  You are just a veteran, naysaying tool.  Love, Newbie [/quote] I enjoy reading posts that downgrade a poster's opinion because he has not tallied close to 1000 posts on the setx message board "where everyone knows everything." That is comical to say the least. [/quote]

So, if we would have passed the bond, then our DC would do a better job?!  This is what I like about this forum: Comedians everywhere!  LOL!!!!    ;D    ::) [quote name="dawgnut" post="865011" timestamp="1286130474"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=73772.msg864973#msg864973 date=1286126571] Oh, I'm in charge of the defense that keeps giving up massive yardage?  Funny!  ???   ::) [quote author=dawgnut link=topic=73772.msg864354#msg864354 date=1286061146] Don't try using logic with smitty, if he understood logic then he would be able to see that he's the problem, not the DC. [/quote] [/quote] No smitty you are one of the "don't care" folks that voted against the bond, so that makes it your fault! Think about it, you think you have all the answers! [/quote]

Wow, newbie, you ask me if I want facts then you do not give me any.  ???  ??? Sniff jocks?!  That's funny!  You should seek out a comedy forum and leave the serious discussion to the grown-ups!  LOL!!!    ;D    ::) [quote name="Bulldog8" post="864991" timestamp="1286128636"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=73891.msg864878#msg864878 date=1286116357] If facts tend to bore you, then go to a touchy-feely forum and sing Kumbaya around a campfire were everybody FEELS good.  I stick with the facts and the stats.    ::)    ;) [quote author=1696dogs link=topic=73891.msg864867#msg864867 date=1286115664] Don't hurt yourself thinking Smitty. We would hate not to have your wonderful negativity on this forum! [/quote] [/quote] You want facts???? You are probably still mad because all the jocks you had to sniff back in school. Thats probably as close as you got being an athlete. It is really obvious you cannot look at the big picture and understanding coaching and playing the game. [/quote]

No, newbie, there is only one I'm concerned about.  Get your facts straight if you are gonna try and contribute.  LOL!!    ::)  [quote name="willforever" post="864679" timestamp="1286076004"] [quote author=Roughrider link=topic=73772.msg864553#msg864553 date=1286070158] Smitty, we found out who you are......HA HA HA HA.....If people only knew!  :D :D :D :D :D [/quote}] smitty shows a LACK of respect for all of our coaches...I have heard this recently, somewhere.  Glad that he doesn't have any students in our program or schools.  Nederland has too much to look forward to, WITHOUT this joker's comments.  I think we should all ignore his posts!  Maybe he'll find a new soap box. I should have ignored this last post of his, but he is such a poseur and I can't believe anyone would buy his rhetoric about caring about Nederland. [/quote]

Funny!    ;D [quote name="baddog" post="864559" timestamp="1286070403"] [quote author=Roughrider link=topic=73772.msg864553#msg864553 date=1286070158] Smitty, we found out who you are......HA HA HA HA.....If people only knew!  :D :D :D :D :D [/quote] He's the cleanup guy at the humane society? So that's what he's got against Dogs. [/quote]

Well, newbie, you couldn't be more wrong on all accounts.  LOL!!!!  This is just to frickin easy!!!!!    ;D [quote name="ispeakjive" post="864640" timestamp="1286073621"] I'm thinking somewhere down the line there may have been a Smitty, Jr. that Smitty believed was a budding defensive superstar at Nederland who didn't get the playing time he thought he deserved.  Heck, Spell has been there long enough that maybe it was Smitty himself.  His criticism is too personal, persistent, and irrational to not be rooted in something personal.   Bottom line on last night is that Nederland beat a good offensive team.  Good teams find ways to win when they are not firing on all cylinders.  PNG had a lot of yards, but stops were made when they were needed and the offense did their job.  With all the underclassmen starting and contributing on defense I don't think an NFL defensive coordinator would make a difference in the defensive performance.  The young kids will get better and hopefully thing will gel.   But you don't want to hear that, so let me appease you - Coach Spell sucks, you're right.  Ridiculous.   [/quote]

Really?!  Then let the people know the FACTS.  But facts seem to be rare around here.  LOL!!    ;D [quote name="Roughrider" post="864553" timestamp="1286070158"] Smitty, we found out who you are......HA HA HA HA.....If people only knew!  :D :D :D :D :D [/quote]