smitty

PS - This individual that you praised as educated, doesn't even know who I have been talking about. He thought I was talking about HC.  I had to educate him!  Or did you not see this??  This makes me wonder about your, well, I'll not get personal.  Never have, never will.   ;D [quote name="Penny" post="854820" timestamp="1285300460"] Dang, it's even the educated from other school districts who see Smitty's AGENDA... I wish they all had the facts to argue with when Smitty said he's had a couple of good defenses... I don't call a decade a couple... but hey that's me.  Carry on Smitty, the board will continue to humor you. [/quote]

Why would a father want to do this to his son?!  LOL!!!!    ???  ::)  [quote name="GrayDog" post="855083" timestamp="1285348295"] Just hope for another fun game like last year!  IF yall remember, Vidor gaining momentum late in the 4th, then the QB sack, and the mysterious flag... then, well whatever that strange play was at the end of the game that Ned got the break on???  Anyways, it was fun and exciting!  It's what high school athletics is all about, win or lose! (oh yeah, and give it a break, smitty!  I would want my son to play for that DC anytime.) GO DOGS! [/quote]

If it keeps going like this, it will be YEARS to come!  LOL!!  ;D  ::) [quote name="dawgnut" post="855099" timestamp="1285349556"] [quote author=GrayDog link=topic=72830.msg855083#msg855083 date=1285348295] Just hope for another fun game like last year!  IF yall remember, Vidor gaining momentum late in the 4th, then the QB sack, and the mysterious flag... then, well whatever that strange play was at the end of the game that Ned got the break on???  Anyways, it was fun and exciting!  It's what high school athletics is all about, win or lose! (oh yeah, and give it a break, smitty!  I would want my son to play for that DC anytime.) GO DOGS! [/quote] OMG you had to use the 'S' word, he may not stop for another year. [/quote]

Prayers go out to the family.

A decade is 10 years!  Didn't happen!!  But, I'm ALWAYS open to proof.   ;D BTW:  You say an educated person is when someone says your school tax dollars go in to segregated accounts?  Therefore, one can't complain about a certain aspect of a school district because your funds may not have gone to that particular section.  Really?   ??? You might want to rethink your definition of educated!!    ::) [quote name="Penny" post="854820" timestamp="1285300460"] Dang, it's even the educated from other school districts who see Smitty's AGENDA... I wish they all had the facts to argue with when Smitty said he's had a couple of good defenses... I don't call a decade a couple... but hey that's me.  Carry on Smitty, the board will continue to humor you. [/quote]

Oh, wait, you are not even a Nederland taxpayer.  I see. Nobody says this DC is not doing the best he can.  But his record: he had a short period of good defenses but that's all.  Remember, again, he was the DC under DeRouen in the 80's.  Not much there.  We'll be talking about this until he retires or the HC does something about it.  If you've been around awhile, you would know I never blame the kids.  As a matter of fact I have been involved more than you think.  This is what gives me the educated thoughts on this DC.  I may know that of which I talk about.  How about you?  [quote name="elhector1" post="854465" timestamp="1285271137"] nope, I wasn't wrong...what I posted is that you DON'T know where your tax dollars go...read my original post again.  You are the one positing that because you are a taxpayer, you can criticize a coach's win loss record.  I think most people without a Napoleon complex of "being right" understood that.  As to you post, he preforms his duties as well as he can.  His past record on his defensive squads speak for themsleves, just like your record on "dogging" the 'Dogs speaks for itself.  Understand, I am a supporter of the LCM Bears, without taking my taxpayer dollars into account.  You?  Well, your posts speak for themselves...you are pretty much just a hater, and that is pretty consistent. Now, answer my question...have you ever volunteered for anything, done anything in support of youth?  Or do you just like to dog and complain?  Seriously, I don't know what bugs me about you, and why I should be defending the Nederland Bulldogs, their won/loss record, or their coaches.  They have a great fan base, and are more than enough to counter your negative influence.  So, I will leave it up to them.  I think the team will speak for itself in the district race, and I reaaallllly hope they push you off the bandwagon when that happens...  [/quote]

So, you admit you were wrong about the taxpayers dollars.  Good.  Now tell now tell us why you think Nederland's DC is the best.  And/Or the original question: After this 1-2 start, can they make the top 4? [quote name="elhector1" post="854409" timestamp="1285265971"] That would be the heavy medication for coaches fund...EVERY district has one As to the Bears comment, my kids have all gone to LCM, which is why I posted the caveat about my two cents being "unwanted"... [quote author=smitty link=topic=72900.msg854376#msg854376 date=1285264290] Oh, by the way, let me know what account YOUR tax dollars fund in particular.  Would love to know.   8) [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=72900.msg854286#msg854286 date=1285258076] Okay, Smitty, let me ask you this...is the coach who is the DC exclusively a DC, or does he have other duties as well? In addition, does the DC go out and tackle, or blitz, or cover reveivers?  No, his team does.  In the world of high school football, you try to teach 15, 16, 17, and 18 year olds how to do all the above (if on defense).  In addition, you teach class.  SO basically, you are expecting pro results from teens who can't even join the military, drink a beer, and make life changing choices for themselves.  You are expecting a coach to get pro level results while at the same time, expecting him to be a heck of a teacher.  Seriously, I'm glad most of the 'Dog faithful are more understanding about the realities of high school football than you are.  I'm glad most of the faithful of all the high school teams are more understanding than you are.  It's easy to sit on a perch and claim "a right" than it is to get down and dirty and teach kids, whether it be football, or history, or English.  Now, understanding that the answer to this question may be yes, have you ever volunteered as a coach, or a youth league official?  I have.  That is why I tend to be more understanding of those men who coach sports teams...because I have seen "fans" and "I pay my moneyers" such as yourself always being critical, yet never really understanding the dedication and work it takes to field teams year after year, and impart wisdom and desire into the young folk.  If you've never volunteered, try it sometime...not for the abuse, but to get a look at what it takes to make things happen on the field.    Good luck 'Dogs...'cepting of course, for that one week against my Bears... :D [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]

Oh, by the way, let me know what account YOUR tax dollars fund in particular.  Would love to know.  8) [quote name="elhector1" post="854286" timestamp="1285258076"] Okay, Smitty, let me ask you this...is the coach who is the DC exclusively a DC, or does he have other duties as well? In addition, does the DC go out and tackle, or blitz, or cover reveivers?  No, his team does.  In the world of high school football, you try to teach 15, 16, 17, and 18 year olds how to do all the above (if on defense).  In addition, you teach class.  SO basically, you are expecting pro results from teens who can't even join the military, drink a beer, and make life changing choices for themselves.  You are expecting a coach to get pro level results while at the same time, expecting him to be a heck of a teacher.  Seriously, I'm glad most of the 'Dog faithful are more understanding about the realities of high school football than you are.  I'm glad most of the faithful of all the high school teams are more understanding than you are.  It's easy to sit on a perch and claim "a right" than it is to get down and dirty and teach kids, whether it be football, or history, or English.  Now, understanding that the answer to this question may be yes, have you ever volunteered as a coach, or a youth league official?  I have.  That is why I tend to be more understanding of those men who coach sports teams...because I have seen "fans" and "I pay my moneyers" such as yourself always being critical, yet never really understanding the dedication and work it takes to field teams year after year, and impart wisdom and desire into the young folk.  If you've never volunteered, try it sometime...not for the abuse, but to get a look at what it takes to make things happen on the field.    Good luck 'Dogs...'cepting of course, for that one week against my Bears... :D [/quote]

He probably is a good person.  But IMHO the other part is questionable.  ::)  ::) [quote name="James Mosley" post="854305" timestamp="1285259904"] Nederland has a great DC, both as a person and as a coach. He gets the most out of what he has to work with. Injuries and ones ability have more to do with a coaches success than you give credit smitty. I have always believed you put Nederlands coaching staff across the field with the players that Ozen and Central field every year and they beat us hands down time after time. The boys at Nederland to me are always the ones who over achieve simply because of good coaching. I'm not sure why I gave you the time of day and responded to your post other than I know we have good men leading our boys. Let it go smitty, the cycle will turn, and all of a sudden our defense will be dominant again, and guess what, same coach!!!! For every bad fact you come up with, I can give you three good facts about our coaches. As far as middle school goes, Jack Lynch, ENOUGH SAID, coach like him and send them straight to varsity. If they don't leave middle school wanting to kick butt after playing for him they don't like the sport anyway.... [/quote]

My Bears??  What the heck???    ???    ???    ??? [quote name="elhector1" post="854286" timestamp="1285258076"] Okay, Smitty, let me ask you this...is the coach who is the DC exclusively a DC, or does he have other duties as well? In addition, does the DC go out and tackle, or blitz, or cover reveivers?  No, his team does.  In the world of high school football, you try to teach 15, 16, 17, and 18 year olds how to do all the above (if on defense).  In addition, you teach class.  SO basically, you are expecting pro results from teens who can't even join the military, drink a beer, and make life changing choices for themselves.  You are expecting a coach to get pro level results while at the same time, expecting him to be a heck of a teacher.  Seriously, I'm glad most of the 'Dog faithful are more understanding about the realities of high school football than you are.  I'm glad most of the faithful of all the high school teams are more understanding than you are.  It's easy to sit on a perch and claim "a right" than it is to get down and dirty and teach kids, whether it be football, or history, or English.  Now, understanding that the answer to this question may be yes, have you ever volunteered as a coach, or a youth league official?  I have.  That is why I tend to be more understanding of those men who coach sports teams...because I have seen "fans" and "I pay my moneyers" such as yourself always being critical, yet never really understanding the dedication and work it takes to field teams year after year, and impart wisdom and desire into the young folk.  If you've never volunteered, try it sometime...not for the abuse, but to get a look at what it takes to make things happen on the field.    Good luck 'Dogs...'cepting of course, for that one week against my Bears... :D [/quote]

1st of all, why do you need children to post here?  ??? How can one get so many things wrong. I guess to prove an invalid point. OK, what account does your tax dollars go into?  LOL!!  You can't ACTUALLY believe this??!!  You, me, anyone has the right to criticize any aspects of the school district or city hall in which one pays taxes to. Unless I guess one is a kool-aid drinking bobble head.  No one in particular with that statement. Next, Neauman wasn't the source of my contention here.  Well not yet anyway.  The DC for Ned was.  So you got that wrong.  I should have known you were gonna get something wrong when you started of with a personal attack.    ::)  ::) [quote name="elhector1" post="852954" timestamp="1285092522"] Obviously, since my life revolves around posting on forums where I have no children, I will put my unwanted 2 cents in here... This is for snooty...ooops, I mean smitty Being a taxpayer in a district DOES NOT make you a fan of a program, or a supporter of that program.  SInce all the tax money is disbursed into different accounts, your taxes could have gone into the science coffers... Second, your anology of being able to criticize a coach's on field abilities because you are a taxpayer falls flat.  The won/loss column are a measure of the kids in that program, not in the coach's job performance.  The kids paly the games, not the coaches.  What then, is a measure of the coach's preformance?  That he prepares them for the games.  Period.  If the kids are sitting around, doing nothing, THEN you would have a point.  That, however, isn't the case.  Coach Neumann, from past performance, has shown that he prepares his kids QUITE well.  I beleive he is an AD as well...the 'Dogs bring EVERY team that they field, ready to go, so that shows his measure as an AD.  We now have the same thing in Bear land.  A coach who prepares the kids, and also an AD who works for all teams of the school. Now, being that we have shown, by a preponderance of the circumstantial evidence, that Coach Neumann is doing his job QUITE well, I move that the court of public opinion convict you of the offense of being a hater in the first degree...   [/quote]

No, newbie, Vidor's just not that good this year.  But it could be 35-34.  Nothing has changed at Nederland.    :o    ::) [quote name="heartattack90" post="847833" timestamp="1284542502"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=72830.msg847314#msg847314 date=1284486055] Nederland should take this one easy.    35-14 [/quote]Must be that good DC we have to win like this ;) [/quote]

LC-M wins this one IF they can play some defense.  This, though, could be a shoot-out with LC-M still winning.  Should be entertaining!

Very possible.  If LCM can play a little defense, They could win this thing.  Very interesting match-up.

I will say PN-G here.  BUT, I would not be surprised if Livingston pulls an upset.  Interesting match-up!

It's strictly Neauman's decision, in which to succeed with or fail.  It's just my opinion that if a change is not made then we'll keep having this debate year after year.  But thanks for saying I am entitled to my opinion.  There are many here that if it's differs from there's then one is not entitled to say it.    :o  :o    :o    :o [quote name="outanup" post="851664" timestamp="1284942048"] You are certainly entitled to your opinion. You seem to be passionate about this , why dont you attend a school board meeting and voice your concerns? Or better yet, set up an appointment with Neuman himself. Im sure he would enjoy hearing your spill.  :o :o :o [/quote]

Interesting thought!  LOL!!!    ::) Why don't we cut taxes here and play better defense???!!!  Again, LOL!!!    :-[  :o [quote name="baddog" post="851610" timestamp="1284939721"] You could always move. Go to Newton. The taxes are less and they have a very successful high school footbal program. You'd get more bang for your buck. [/quote]

I had a child go through Ned and I live in Ned.  Why would I criticize one aspect in order for them to get better if I supported PN-G??   ??? Again, being a TAXPAYER gives me the right to say anything, within reason -- but YOU are not the judge -- I want. PS - Do you work for the NISD?   PSS -- Nothing gets better by constantly drinking the kool-aid and acting like a bobble-head.  Of course I'm not talking about anyone in particular.  Just a general statement. [quote name="willforever" post="851563" timestamp="1284938436"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=72900.msg851530#msg851530 date=1284937334] No players on the field.  But I am a TAX PAYER that gives me the right to say what ever opinion I have.  So what's your point?!    :o   ??? That's what I thought.  You did say you pay Nederland ISD Taxes, however, you could live in Port Neches.  Probably don't have anyone attending NISD, either. Nederland has a lot to be proud of on their fields.  These are kids playing a game. None of them get paid.  They work longer days than you do at work.   Keep your negativity to yourself.  I am sure we could get a message board about your job performance and say negative things about you pretty easily.  Just a thought? I support Nederland Athletics. That's more important than who you are. Go Dogs! [/quote]

dawgnuts, no, it's not personal.  First, I never use his name.  Second, my problem is performance, not with him personally.  Never has been.   Plus, I work in the private sector where my performance is constantly scrutinized, as ALL jobs should be.  If I was payed by the taxpayers, then, yes, you, as a taxpayer, could criticize if I was not performing as you think I should.   [quote name="dawgnut" post="851541" timestamp="1284937810"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=72900.msg851064#msg851064 date=1284905073] I've notice by you and a couple of others here, when you can't defend your arguments you get personal.  It's just been my opinion that Ned's defenses will get better when changes are made.    ::) [quote author=dawgnut link=topic=72900.msg850790#msg850790 date=1284861467] Does anyone know where smitty works, I wonder if they get their moneys worth from him. In my years I have found the most critical people are usually the worst offenders. Just a thought! [/quote] [/quote] Your constant ragging on the DC is not personal? My whole comment is can you live under the same scrutiny that you put him under or are you just one of those that don't do anything and throw rocks at those that do! We get your point, you have wore it out, you don't like the DC. Unless you are his boss and can fire him then get over it and pick something else to grip about! [/quote]

No players on the field.  But I am a TAX PAYER that gives me the right to say what ever opinion I have.  So what's your point?!    :o  ??? [quote name="willforever" post="851349" timestamp="1284925476"] I agree RRider....Football, it is. Smitty, you pulled my quote,but didn't answer my question...do you have players on the field in Nederland playing Football? PS -- If you won't stand for it, then sit down for it!  LOL!!  This is a forum for discussions.  If you don't like what's being said, or your little feelings get hurt easily, then go to the baking or knitting forums and leave this to those that can handle it.  IMHO of course!    ;D I can read English and you haven't said anything positive about Nederland in your posts.  Makes me question your true intent on this board.  Tear apart the Nederland Football Program right down to the middle schools.  I won't stand for it. That is why I posted on here.  Nederland has more talent coming down the road and I personally am excited to see where it takes us. Don't bash our coaches, either.  They do a fine job. Enough Said. Go Dogs! [/quote]

This goes to show once again how a good run oriented team does against a spread offense. 

It's amazing how another newbi here can get so many things wrong and make wild assumptions:  Posts by wanna be's!  Smitty a PN-G fan?!  Doesn't pay taxes in Nederland?!  Actually our taxes are too frickin high.  But any way, if you can't bring anything to this board, then find one that has aother things you can't prove.  Or do like you've done here, find a subject on another board and talk about something else other than the stated subject.  All we want here is people's opinion on the stated subject.    ::) [quote name="willforever" post="851075" timestamp="1284905882"] It's a question..How many of you who post on here actually have sons playing football for Nederland, or at all????  Really, most of these posts are by wanna be's. My sons played/play for CMS and I am proud of all their hard work.  COW has a wonderful program.  But there's no second guessing the talent pool from CMS. WE could name some of the BEST from Nederland who started their football journey at Central (and of course, COW ,as well).  There's no need to divide NEDERLAND.  NO ONE FROM NEDERLAND WOULD DO THAT. Smitty is a PNG fan, no doubt, who doesn't posses any higher education.  That's a given.  Let' be smart and NOT feed his fire.  He can't fool everyone.  By the way, the only way he is paying taxes in Nederland is the money he's paying his ex. [/quote]

I've notice by you and a couple of others here, when you can't defend your arguments you get personal.  It's just been my opinion that Ned's defenses will get better when changes are made.    ::) [quote name="dawgnut" post="850790" timestamp="1284861467"] Does anyone know where smitty works, I wonder if they get their moneys worth from him. In my years I have found the most critical people are usually the worst offenders. Just a thought! [/quote]

I'm sure he does a good job in that area.  But that's not the area we have been talking about.  ??? [quote name="Roughrider" post="849981" timestamp="1284783363"] I just talked to my son who is with some other Nederland players and they are all devastated over the news. It is times like this that Smitty should thank his lucky stars that a man like Delbert Spell would be helping every player in the Nederland football program deal with what happened tonight in WOS. Sometimes is more than X,s and O,s that these coaches teach these boys. [/quote]

I also believe that PN-G played in the State game the next year. [quote name="NDN79" post="850206" timestamp="1284821336"] DOGS1988--PN-G has actually won 3 state championships: 1975, 1955, 1953. Just to clarify for the point you were trying to make. [/quote]