smitty

So, what you are saying is that they went the whole game not realizing that Merka didn't have the ball? Seems like after 34 carries, 223 yds and 5 TD's, someone would have noticed Evans was getting the ball and not Merka. [quote name="bigdaddyblue" post="709960" timestamp="1258403275"] There defense was set up to stop Merka,thats why Evans had so many touches..Merka had no carries in 2nd half.. [/quote]

The Crosby running back had 223 rushing yards and 5 touchdowns?  Ouch!

Maybe next year. [quote name="Nederland Dog 2006" post="703640" timestamp="1257889094"] [quote author=bobtex link=topic=62048.msg703633#msg703633 date=1257887873] Crosby 28- Nederland 8 . [/quote] We are going to shock this state. I have a feeling something specialo is going to happen for Nederland Saturday. Nederland wins big. [/quote]

Whats was the yardage gained by Neds offense?  And what was the yardage gave up on defense?  Anyone have any figures?

Is Price leaving?

  ;D [quote name="adminbaberuth" post="707751" timestamp="1258230204"] Once it's 21-0, we will wake up. [/quote]

;D [quote name="EX-Ceauxch" post="707295" timestamp="1258187041"] Maybe if we had stats in REDZONE effencity and turnover ratio that might explain it. [/quote]

                    Offense                       AVG 1. Vidor            388 2. PN-G            344 3. Livingston      313 4. Lumberton      292 5. Central          287 6. LC-M            282 7. Ozen            239 8. Nederland      238                     Defense                       AVG 1. PN-G            242 2. Central        261 3. Vidor            265 4. Lumberton    276 5. Livingston      298 6. Ozen            317 7. Nederland      321 8. LC-M            350 What's suprising to me is Nederland ending up last in offense.

Do we know where and when they are playing?

If the Broncs get ahead, it's over.

The are not the only one.  Pampa is also 2-8.  As I've said from the start: the present day playoff system is a joke.  Nothing more than money to the district.  Just wait, it won't be long before all teams go.  [quote name="pngfan66" post="701562" timestamp="1257695033"] Is it me or is Manor in region 3 in the playoffs with a 2-8 record ? is it that wrong ? [/quote]

Correction has been made.  Thanks. [quote name="PhatMack19" post="688819" timestamp="1256759906"] Ozen defense?  Hey at least Nederland isn't last in both categories anymore. [/quote]

Possible!  :) [quote name="James Mosley" post="689198" timestamp="1256808059"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg689035#msg689035 date=1256780962] Well, James, my friend, this is taken out of the PN-G playbook.  If Ned can get up by two or three touches then it will be difficult for Vidor to catch up.  And I hope this will be the case.  But, the question was about defense.  Vidor has 3 of the top 8 rushers.  Ned is 2nd to last in defense and has given up 1638 yards rushing.  My point being: there's nothing in the past that shows Ned can control a good running attack.  Central had 396 yards rushing against Ned.  Someone brought up the Waller game.  I believe Waller had close to, if not over, 400 yards total.  That night it had more to do with Ned's offense.  Plus the 1st game with everyone healthy, Ned gave up over 400 yards against WO-S.  So, you are right, something's got to give.  We'll see Friday night.  I hope you are right. [quote author=James Mosley link=topic=61263.msg688986#msg688986 date=1256777485] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688809#msg688809 date=1256759427] I'm not sure Nederlands defense can stop Vidors running attack.  If anyone thinks they can, what in the past 8 games gives you that belief?  I'm willing to listen. [/quote]It's all about match ups, Nederland will flat out out score Vidor because of how the offense matches ups against Vidors defense, Vidor will then get way behind and try to go to a passing offense to try and make up ground and it will find itself even farther behind. There you go smitty, I pretty much explained how it will happen....Hope you enjoy the results Friday night... [/quote] [/quote]Nederlands defense is playing better now, better than in the beginning of the season. Again smitty, my point is, Nederland won't be defending against the run late in the game. One more thing, Vidor could still put up 400 yards rushing tonight and lose by three touchdowns. hard to believe huh? [/quote]

You are right, I guess, if you are 8-0.  But look at the only 8-0 team and see what their stats look like.  #1 in defense and #2 in offense.  It usually goes hand in hand.  It's rare, but not impossible, to be 2nd to last in offense and defense and be 8-0.  What say you? [quote name="Penny" post="689224" timestamp="1256818545"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688933#msg688933 date=1256774182] Yes.  But being at the bottom on defense will not win you very many games.  Stats are performance based.   [quote author=Penny link=topic=61263.msg688881#msg688881 date=1256766180] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688809#msg688809 date=1256759427] I'm not sure Nederland's defense can stop Vidor's running attack.  If anyone thinks they can, what in the past 8 games gives you that belief?  I'm willing to listen. [/quote] Nederland doesn't have a defense that will take over the game, but when the offense takes care of the ball and doesn't lose turnovers, they have played well.  They have given up the second fewest points in district, a stat that catches some by suprise.  If we take care of the ball, our defense will put us in position to win... did you listen? [/quote] [/quote] What stat is more important that points against?   [/quote]

I hope Ned wins.  But you can't hide the fact that Vidor has 3 rushers in the top 8 in the district.  This is after playing PN-G and Central. And Ned's defense has basically been last all season. [quote name="Geaux25" post="689150" timestamp="1256788005"] [quote author=vhs link=topic=61263.msg689046#msg689046 date=1256781722] but this years version of the Pirates is a little different than most years.  [/quote] Heard this before. Each season...for the past 6 years. [/quote]

Well, James, my friend, this is taken out of the PN-G playbook.  If Ned can get up by two or three touches then it will be difficult for Vidor to catch up.  And I hope this will be the case.  But, the question was about defense.  Vidor has 3 of the top 8 rushers.  Ned is 2nd to last in defense and has given up 1638 yards rushing.  My point being: there's nothing in the past that shows Ned can control a good running attack.  Central had 396 yards rushing against Ned.  Someone brought up the Waller game.  I believe Waller had close to, if not over, 400 yards total.  That night it had more to do with Ned's offense.  Plus the 1st game with everyone healthy, Ned gave up over 400 yards against WO-S.  So, you are right, something's got to give.  We'll see Friday night.  I hope you are right. [quote name="James Mosley" post="688986" timestamp="1256777485"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688809#msg688809 date=1256759427] I'm not sure Nederlands defense can stop Vidors running attack.  If anyone thinks they can, what in the past 8 games gives you that belief?  I'm willing to listen. [/quote]It's all about match ups, Nederland will flat out out score Vidor because of how the offense matches ups against Vidors defense, Vidor will then get way behind and try to go to a passing offense to try and make up ground and it will find itself even farther behind. There you go smitty, I pretty much explained how it will happen....Hope you enjoy the results Friday night... [/quote]

So, how do you explain being last in defense up until last week?  Now Ned is 2nd to last. [quote name="Nederland Dog 2006" post="688953" timestamp="1256775993"] [quote author=Penny link=topic=61263.msg688881#msg688881 date=1256766180] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688809#msg688809 date=1256759427] I'm not sure Nederland's defense can stop Vidor's running attack.  If anyone thinks they can, what in the past 8 games gives you that belief?  I'm willing to listen. [/quote] Nederland doesn't have a defense that will take over the game, but when the offense takes care of the ball and doesn't lose turnovers, they have played well.  They have given up the second fewest points in district, a stat that catches some by suprise.  If we take care of the ball, our defense will put us in position to win... did you listen? [/quote] We don't have a defense that can take over a game? think back. Non-district. We were down 23-7 to Waller. 2nd half our defense was nasty and shut down Waller. So our D is capable. [/quote]

Yes.  But being at the bottom on defense will not win you very many games.  Stats are performance based.  [quote name="Penny" post="688881" timestamp="1256766180"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61263.msg688809#msg688809 date=1256759427] I'm not sure Nederland's defense can stop Vidor's running attack.  If anyone thinks they can, what in the past 8 games gives you that belief?  I'm willing to listen. [/quote] Nederland doesn't have a defense that will take over the game, but when the offense takes care of the ball and doesn't lose turnovers, they have played well.  They have given up the second fewest points in district, a stat that catches some by suprise.  If we take care of the ball, our defense will put us in position to win... did you listen? [/quote]

I'm not sure Nederland's defense can stop Vidor's running attack.  If anyone thinks they can, what in the past 8 games gives you that belief?  I'm willing to listen.

            Offense               AVG. Vidor         396 PN-G         343 Livingston  338 Central      306 Lumberton  297 LC-M         275 Nederland   229 Ozen          207             Defense               AVG. PN-G         218 Vidor         263 Central      275 Lumberton  281 Ozen        291 Livingston   303 Nederland   330 LC-M         355

Where are you at, falcons? [quote name="smitty" post="687842" timestamp="1256671215"] Has Angleton ever won a State Championship? [quote author=hummer link=topic=61380.msg687837#msg687837 date=1256671044] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61380.msg687834#msg687834 date=1256670846] I've always thought it strange that teams with a loss are ahead of teams with an unbleamished record.  PN-G should be at least 5th. [/quote] ha you guys live such a pipe dream and if you get to angleton they will tear you apart. typical golden triangle dreamers. when is the last time the gt had a state champ? [/quote] [/quote]

Has Angleton ever won a State Championship? [quote name="hummer" post="687837" timestamp="1256671044"] [quote author=smitty link=topic=61380.msg687834#msg687834 date=1256670846] I've always thought it strange that teams with a loss are ahead of teams with an unbleamished record.  PN-G should be at least 5th. [/quote] ha you guys live such a pipe dream and if you get to angleton they will tear you apart. typical golden triangle dreamers. when is the last time the gt had a state champ? [/quote]

Ouch! [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="687814" timestamp="1256670039"] ??? C'mon guys and gals, let's here from you. Thick and thin, folks, thick and thin. I know you guys are better than this. [/quote]

I've always thought it strange that teams with a loss are ahead of teams with an unbleamished record.  PN-G should be at least 5th.

WOW! Where have we heard this before? It's all about the money? "But its not just football, its all sports that the UIL plans on taking over. The money hungry people that are putting 4 teams from a 6 team district in the playoffs so that they can get their 15% cut from the gate. And you thought it was to get more kids exposure for college scholarships! Its all about the money!"