smitty

Rusted, I'm disappointed in you. Agreeing with someone who clearly doesn't have a clue with what he's talking about is rather silly. And above that, it hurts your argument. Yep. dawgnut is right. If someone wanted to go through it all, legal could ask SETXsports for smitty's IP address. Or any of our IP addresses for that matter if they thought we were libeling someone for instance. Just because you post anonymously, does not mean you are totally anonymous. [Hidden Content]

A threat is a threat. I am sure this web sight can get your name and address also. Like I said, I have a copy of it. PS - You think these statements were fished out of thin air? If so, then you need to expand you horizons and read a little more. Then you might have an intelligent argument. But from your statement I can tell they've fogged your mind. Ol' Rusted is in the same boat. I think we are now seeing what we are exactly dealing with. I've always said, it's not good to drink too much kool-aid. If you even know what I'm talking about. ;D ;D

Thanks! You are right, it is a threat. I made a copy of it. But confused minds will always say silly things. One can always tell when the pressure is mounting on one side or the other. It just so happens to be on the other. this topic will stay heated till the election. the you can be found is borderline threat. don't get personal, let it flow. ;)

Hey Coop, does there sound like there is a threat here? Just wondering.

I notice you talk a good game. But one thing you didn't do was deny what was said. I have my sources for everything I stated. It just goes to show you you don't even know what I'm talking about. Now I know why you are a pro-bonder, you listen to only one side. I say to you and other kool-drinkers: bring it on!

More news coming out concerning the bond issue. We now know that the bond committee was way over loaded with pro-bonders. Out of 34, 23 are either employed by the district or on the school board. At least 3 others are paid to provide services to the district. Real community representation, as promised! Information (public records) was requested from the superintendent. Ten days after the request, the school responded and was told it would be another 3 weeks and had to pay around $375. And these responses were by the district lawyer. That in itself should raise a few questions. Trying to stall also raises a few questions. All the district had to do was copy 78 pages. There is a law that specifically states how much it should cost. The cost should have been -- now get this -- $37.80! It's so bad that now the Texas Attorney Generals office had to get involved. Now to the one consulting firm that some do not seem to have a problem with. I understand that the firm, LANWalton, also was involved in the PN-G bond issue. Keeping up with the Jones'? Well, anyway, it is also my understanding that they get a percentage of the bond passed. So, the more the bond issue is, the more they get. It could be real possible that the taxpayers could get a real reaming from something like this. Pro-bonders -- you with me so far? Let's keep going. It was reported that in the late 90's, Gulf Coast Electric did extensive upgrades to the electrical systems. It has been also stated that there is plenty of power there to do what Nederland needs to do. Amazing! So, pro-bonders, as I thought all along, this stinks to high heaven. Whenever the kool-aid drinkers can only regurgitate the talking point, "do it for the kids", then I knew there was more to the story. And boy was I right. I'm sure there is more to come. PS, One local newspaper requested comment on an article concerning the bond issue from the superintendent. But, the reporter said they were instructed to submit questions in writing in advance. The request was presented and a reply was made. But not by the superintendent. No! A response was from the school board president. And this response was, and in the words of the newspaper, "It failed to address all of the questions the newspaper posed, and appeared to CONFLICT (emphasis added) with the newspaper's independent findings." So, pro-bonders, I think once the stink permeates the town with openness, it'll go down in a blaze of glory.

I believe ol' Smitty had the same concerns about not making repairs if repairs were needed. Will anyone be held accountable? We'll see if those here are truly concerned. Will these same people here call for the resignations of those responsible? Probably not. Too many one-track minds. Well, first off, a person's home is not public property so they don't have to meet ADA codes and since the are not in business of educating children they don't have to be wired properly for modern technology. Businesses are open to the public, yes, but they are paid for by private owners. So again, since they are not owned by the public, they can choose to keep their business in the stone ages if they so please, since they are not in charge of educating your children. But since they are open to public business, they do have to adhere to code enforcement when they look to add on or improve in any way. Well, first off, I am so lucky this board didn't evaluate my home or they would want to tear it down too. I do what I can to keep the maintenance up on it and pay my taxes. Oh, and when I did pay for some electrical boxes and panels to be changed out I had to meet city code also, so bit me, you lose, private homes do have to meet codes. ADA codes seem to be the big issue here, last time I looked the schools were ADA approved so was the stadium, ramps everywhere you look at all entrances. Heck last time I looked all the schools were wired for computers and modern technology stuff. There is NO CODE for repairs, why have the repairs gone so long without attention, fire the whole bunch who let it go so long. I would look deep into the facts about who is running the show when it comes to keeping up with our PUBLIC facilities as you like to put it. I totally agree, PUBLIC PROPERTY, so why the heck have you let my PUBLIC PROPERTY go down hill. I don't keep my personal property like this, so why you need more of my public money to bail you out. We got a problem with the people in charge of controlling our schools. If the schools had been well maintenanced we wouldn't be having this bond. What makes you people think we can maintain a new school when we couldn't keep the ones we have now REPAIRED, notice REPAIRED, repaired when broken and we would still have NICE....Go ahead build all new the same people who drove the old ones will be in charged and soon the new will be old again, and broken.

I understand that all this comes from ONE consulting firm. ??? [Hidden Content] I counted 27 out of 34 on the board with direct connection to the scools. Loaded very loaded so what else do you think they were going to present. Answer this, how come there is so much simple maintenance items on the list, tear it down, build new, and in 30 years make another generation build new again, good thing the whole world doesn't work this way or we would not have any historical places to go and visit. I'd fire the people who let our schools get so run down, and as far as the football field goes, it's grass people it's gonna get wet and muddy, live with it and play, they been doin it since God created grass.

Anyone attend the anti-tax tea parties in the area?

I believe he said it was loaded. He didn't say they all had involvement in the district. Give me a break, that bond committee is loaded with people who either work for the school, husband or wife of someone who works for the school, father or mother of someone who works for the school, heck it's got school superintendents and board members on it. How else do you think they are going to see it..... Plenty of people on there who are not part of the district as well.

E A S Y ! You gonna give some a heart attack. Give me a break, that bond committee is loaded with people who either work for the school, husband or wife of someone who works for the school, father or mother of someone who works for the school, heck it's got school superintendents and board members on it. How else do you think they are going to see it.....

Well, when they started letting 4 teams go, the playoffs are pretty much a joke now anyway. Why not extend the charade and let all teams go? Don't know, but the way this thread is headed it sounds like Baytown Sterling even has a chance against PAM. If you get beat by Sterling then you will definitely know you made the wrong decision. Baytown Sterling actually made the playoff this past season. ??? ??? ???

EX, Good job. Finally the truth from someone that was there. What we figured all along but some were to blinded to see. I know the truth hurts sometimes but that's the only way to get better. And, by the way, it's honest. ;D ;D

When one is confused it appears to be a rant. No rants here when exploring the bigger picture. I'll give you another chance: Why did Walmart and Conns leave? Gated community, boy that'll bring in massive taxes. High tax rates destroys the business environment. But this type of discussion is a rant to some. So, I'll stop -- for now. ;D But the bottom line is, if you are happy with the tax rates in Nederland then you'll vote for more. I'm not complaining, mind you, on that point. Because that's you and your family's business. PS - I see you are on here a lot also: You got a life?! Just curious since you brought it up. ;D ;D

"We all know smitty must live under a bridge." If I did then I wouldn't have to worry about these massive tax increases that these different school district's keep trying to soak us with. The more Nederland raises taxes (school and city), the more business' will run away (Walmart, Conns). Why do you think all those business' are springing up across 69? They could come to Nederland. Why don't they? Because of already high tax rates? Consequently, homeowners will have to shoulder a bigger burden of these confiscatory taxes. But since a majority here doesn't like to look at the big picture then some may not understand what was just said. PS - ''keep up with PNG'' I think there is a lot to this statement than some will admit! IMHO.

Personally I wouldn't think Neumann would let them play on the big field. I thought they were playing at the high school on one of the practice fields???

Wow! Good news?! Taxpayer gets dinged for 120 million dollars instead of 126 million. Maybe if we wait some more it'll go down to where's it's actually affordable. Now that we could agree on! ;D ;D Well if you are going to have an unbiased debate, you might want to use the correct figure. The bond is $120.3 million, not $126 million. Just in the delay from calling the election off in November, construction prices have gone down.

"You have a GREAT district with the administrators, teachers, students, parents, and community support!" There will be no change, despite what the doom and gloomers say, to what you have written here if/when this massive tax increase fails. The sun will rise, the birds will chirp and all the pro-bonders in these discussions will live happily ever after. And, I might add, a little more money in their pockets for their families.

Again, that's not the biased I'm talking about. I thought I was specific on what I meant. There were only two. Now, you listening? If one is on the committee or one is employed by the district and the spout that this 126 MILLION DOLLAR tax increase is the best thing since sliced bread, then yes, that is biased. Since I am neither I can therefore debate from an unbiased position. I am totally against this huge tax increase. But on the other hand I could, not likely, be persuaded to see it your way.

Didn't ya'll vote down a tax increase (bond issue) recently? Or am I thinking of someone else? You continue to discredit those with first hand experience with a "bias" label. Your "unbiased" definition appears to be an opinion of those that may be the least knowledgeable. I respectfully ask; who much time and effort have you personally spent really access the need of the district? Agenda? Whats wrong with an agenda to improve school facilities, reduce utilities, improve technology, etc... and yes, improve athletic facilities. I also ask; are you a Nederland tax payer? Just wondering and on disrespect intended. Not clear. In your attempt to educate you failed to explain the other side of the coin. Biased can be someone that does not want their taxes to go up no matter what the need or benefit and tries to discredit those who may have some involved insight. (By the way, I totally understand and respect the statement that someone doesn't want or can't afford a tax increase but not at the experience of discrediting others) So who needs the education? By not answering the question about being a Nederland tax payer I will assume your not and you really just enjoy a good debate. ;D ;D Yes Also a fan of other area schools Also a fan of educational improvent

setxguru - What say you? He wasn't fired. He resigned from Carthage on December 12, 2006 per the link below, which is after that football season ended. It may have been forced (doesn't say in the small portion that mentions him), but please do your homework before you post a question inferring something that isn't true. He finished 7-3 that year and 14-8 in his two seasons there. [Hidden Content]

MAT - A Bears fan? You continue to discredit those with first hand experience with a "bias" label. Your "unbiased" definition appears to be an opinion of those that may be the least knowledgeable. I respectfully ask; who much time and effort have you personally spent really access the need of the district? Agenda? Whats wrong with an agenda to improve school facilities, reduce utilities, improve technology, etc... and yes, improve athletic facilities. I also ask; are you a Nederland tax payer? Just wondering and on disrespect intended. Not clear. In your attempt to educate you failed to explain the other side of the coin. Biased can be someone that does not want their taxes to go up no matter what the need or benefit and tries to discredit those who may have some involved insight. (By the way, I totally understand and respect the statement that someone doesn't want or can't afford a tax increase but not at the experience of discrediting others) So who needs the education? By not answering the question about being a Nederland tax payer I will assume your not and you really just enjoy a good debate. ;D ;D

Bru, you disappoint me!

The problem arises, on either side, when one listens to only one side and thinks it's gospel. One may have a personal interest in the outcome. This is bias. And one has to take this into consideration. Anything else you need educating on, let me know. Unlike the 126 million dollar tax increase, it free! ;D ;D ;D You continue to discredit those with first hand experience with a "bias" label. Your "unbiased" definition appears to be an opinion of those that may be the least knowledgeable. I respectfully ask; who much time and effort have you personally spent really access the need of the district? Agenda? Whats wrong with an agenda to improve school facilities, reduce utilities, improve technology, etc... and yes, improve athletic facilities. I also ask; are you a Nederland tax payer? Just wondering and on disrespect intended. Not clear. In your attempt to educate you failed to explain the other side of the coin. Biased can be someone that does not want their taxes to go up no matter what the need or benefit and tries to discredit those who may have some involved insight. (By the way, I totally understand and respect the statement that someone doesn't want or can't afford a tax increase but not at the experience of discrediting others) So who needs the education? By not answering the question about being a Nederland tax payer I will assume your not and you really just enjoy a good debate. ;D ;D

PS - Don't believe every thing you read and half of what you see. Enigma's are hard to grasp sometimes. ;D ;D then why does smitty care so much,,,,,,,,