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The big light skin bro for memorial, where is he now?

What injury is Miller out with?

Bush too would of made a difference in that game, but he was in the 8th grade.

I've been following basketball, high school basketball, Silsbee basketball for at least 55 years. I have yet to see a coach, even some considered 'a good coach' (for some that's a euphemism for deeper & uglier issues) take a team lacking in talent to anywhere significant. Good coaches and teams with lots of talent generally gravitate together, like beans and rice, BBQ & potatoe salad. It just works that way. Would to goodness basketball forums and people who post to basketball forums who actually know basketball worked that way, but that is not always the case. Enough of that. I've seen or heard of a lot of good Silsbee coaches: Dan Montgomery, Fred Williams, Travis Williams, coach Green, Sigler. They were all good coaches IMO. Coach Sigler won two state championships. Is he the best coach of them all? Maybe, maybe not. As someone posted his record speaks for itself. Also I've experienced Silsbee basketball teams being on the short end of some hard defeats and downright blowouts. They got blown out by FB Bush in the FB tournament. Madison blew them off the court in a playoff warm up game. Some big school beat em bad in the SA tournament. Wagner did it too. It BEs that way from time to time. Sometimes you have the shotgun, other times you're dodging the pellets, figuratively speaking. I drove out to Humble/Atascosita and watched HJ play Yates in a playoff game a few years ago. 'Good coaching' lasted about a half a quarter. After that I couldn't hear myself think. The Yates fans were making too much noise. Stuff like that happens in hs basketball, or any basketball. There's an often quoted bible verse that is really not a bible verse: This too shall pass.

YOU still worried about the liberal/socialist boogie man. Meanwhile the real powers that be are laughing at you. They don't need to fight some rural guerrilla war. They got the banks. they got the federal bank. Two thirds of the SC is there's. a Good 30% of the legislature is theirs. They got you is a Hegelian head lock and you don't even know it. They got Biden, they got Pelosi, AOC. Pense. TRUMP, whether he knows it or not. They're just waiting for one good knock out punch, one good calamity to panic everyone so that they will give up what few vestiges of personal freedoms and democracy is left. When that happens they totally got you. They hate the US constitution. They are on record many times stating so. The U.S constitution will be totally repudiated. It is almost there right now.

I watched Silsbee beat Ridgepoint in that gym next to Hightower. That was the year they lost to Lincoln in the championship game. Tre Grubbs had the ball & he was squared up on this guy, about to drive to the hoop. Sigler & several on the bench were were saying "go head and take em Tre" and he did. That was rigepoint first year as a high school. If the Tigers got on the dance floor with them again it would be much harder. Whole lotta athleticism is flowing thru those FB and Brazoria county suburban sub divisions. That gym is kinda high up. Lots of stairs. At the top of the stairs If you look out over the expanse all you can see is a sea of new rooftops.

At the beginning of the season I will say, usually to myself, I am going to this game and that. When the date comes up for some reason or another I will miss that game. The LCM vs Yates games caught my eye for none baseball reasons. I've never actually been on to Little Cypresss Mauriceville much less stepped foot on their high school campus. I drove over that big bridge & I saw a sign that said this is Bridge City, and another that said this is LCM. That's about as close as I've been. I feel like I know them just the same. They were always district rivals even back when I was in school. The name LCM brings back memories of a simpler time, if that makes sense. Now I've been living in Houston, officially, for decades. I say officially cause I was always visiting Houston even when I lived in Silsbee. H town then was a 2nd home. We go to church off Scott St out in South Acres, which is further South from 3rd ward, almost in Pearland. On the way home we usually drive straight North on Scott. My wife loves Frenchy's chicken, so we stop there from time to time. Yates campus is right near there. I've only been in that school once. That was before they rebuilt it. So I had that game picked out more for sentimental reasons.

Like I've hinted at before Wheatley is now a soccer school.

Yep. "Morale" is the word I was aiming for.

I haven't kept up with LaMarque. Last time I recall the school district was shut down. Something like that will affect the moral of a school, including the athletic department.

So much for the idea of showing up to see this one. Hopefully Texan Live will stream the game.

I am wondering that too.

Bridge City? Okay.

They didn't repeat the lie about how Trump was so helpful to the black community.

This is as good a place as any. Lemme (attempt to) drop this in your spirit:

These rappers, the really successful ones, like Lil Wayne, they're a mess. They make all this dusty money singing about exploiting women, and black on black drive by shootings, and purple stuff, and who knows what else. They get filthy rich off that stuff. They buy all this bling bling: 3 & 4 mansions, half dozen, or more, million dollar cars, two & three families, baby mamas getting $ paid. Then Trump comes along with the "platinum plan" (how patronizing can you get?) and all of a sudden they are saying the opposing party hasn't done anything for them. Negroes please! You could take that dusty money and set up banks and credit unions. You could develop modest income housing, in the inner city. You could create jobs. You don't need Trump, or Biden for that matter. Just do it yourself. r

Some hacker from Asia, or pretending to be from Asia,does not like this forum.

Silsbee was 3A then, along with all the classifications, 3A moved up a notch and became 4A. There is lots of good basketball teams in the current classification 3A.

I'm wondering what's going on. The usual squawking from usually quiet places at the beginning of the season. Once the Ws and or Ls start rolling in things quiet down. But, this is an unusual season and year, to say the least. No tournaments, no showcases. Harder to shake out the wannas from the gonnas. No one really knows how the pandemic will help or hinder one team or another. Have to wait & see how this plays out.

Sigler has been around awhile. He's taken his lumps, in Silsbee and I guess in Livingston. You keep bringing that up. I'll take your word on it. I don't keep up with Livingston sports. I remember 10 years or so ago they had soon good height and some ranked teams. Haven't heard from them since, whoever the coaches were. I never said Sigler was the greatest high school coach ever. I respect that he has hung in there. He retired once, then came back. He went up against some great teams, like PA Lincoln. Some of his star players are the sons of players he had 25 years before. A coach doesn't get 760 wins, 2 championships, uil 4A coach of the year, etc, by just being lucky to coach stud players. Schools, communities that have historically good basketball programs go out and hire or try to hire good basketball coaches. Any good coach knows what kind of talent a school puts out year in year out. Nothing wrong with that. It's kinda smart. If I am considered a good baseball coach and I want to keep my reputation going, or maybe improve it I am not gonna take a head coaching position at Yates or BT Washington to coach baseball. I am going to choose Bridge City, or PNG, or LCM. If I am a JUCO basketball recruiter I would include checking out Silsbee way before I would Bridge City. That's just common sense. And if you want basketball fans to stop bringing up coach Wise, then beat him at his game. Do it 2 or 3 times or seasons. Raise up up a team in Lumberton, or bridge city or LCM that can do that. I don't see it happening soon, but what do I know? It is within the realm of possible.

I am sure there are good coaches in Orange County and in SE Texas in general. Maybe some of them don't get their due. Personally I think it is not good to besmirch a coaches accomplishment just because he doesn't sit in your Sunday school class or belong to the country club. I think it is the prevailing zeitgeist. The commander is a loud mouth buffoon, so the young high school trolls in training do the same.

Same holds true for Carthage in football, and Argyle in football, basketball, girls basketball & everything else. Is it coaching? Dude is a helluva coach at Carthage. He has D-1 players just popping up every year, out of nowhere. And Argyle. Is it the soil? They got stud athletes just showing up on campus year in, decade in and out. What kind of buzz do the coaches put in their ears to make them so good year in and year out?

I beg to differ. I went to see Silsbee in a tournament the year they were was ranked #1 and went into the playoffs undefeated. That's another story. Around the holidays they played in a tournament at the now gone Smiley Hi School. Channel View was there, and so was Yates. I alluded to having seen talented teams with no coaching. That Yates team was one I had in mind. They had height, guards everything. They ran like the wind. They built up a big lead in a game, then fizzled out and lost. This was before they hired Wise. The difference between that team and the teams coached by Wise was like night and day. He put Yates back on the map. That negative stereotype that the all successful black high school coaches just win because they have teams with a lot of talent is a myth. All successful coaches win with talented teams. You have watched too many re runs of the movie Hoosier. It is based on a real team, but they used all kinds of cinema verite, and poetic justice to make that movie. That same mentality is the reason why both the Houston Texans and the Dallas Cowboys are jacked up.

Never count Yates & coach Wise out.