Gasilla

[quote name="33" post="696218" timestamp="1257296121"] [quote author=SHSTIGER link=topic=61648.msg696197#msg696197 date=1257295054] Is it necessary to call someone an idiot just because they have a different opinion than you? [/quote] it's no big deal to me. just proves that he doesn't have an argument to back up his statements. [/quote] Hmmmm... and I guess that's why you called me an idiot last week, right? ;)

Good job rhino!

[quote name="Castor27" post="695156" timestamp="1257211753"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=60050.msg694477#msg694477 date=1257181745] [ Rake, couple of things... first, that was not Icewater posting that, I guarantee you. I know him and that is not something he would say. I have a sneaking suspicion that it may be some kids posting under his account. I'm going to let him know about this. Second, we offered to play the Jr High games on our practice field. It would have been perfect, but that offer was turned down. I'm not going to point fingers at who did what, but he offer was made. We wanted to play! [/quote] I thought something was amiss there too Gas. I have seen several posts by Icewater that were well thought out made good points etc., then all of a sudden he can't spell anything and posts like he is in 3rd grade. My guess is you are correct. I don't know him but from his previous posts that sure seems like it was someone taking over his account. [/quote] Yeah, we pretty much confirmed my suspicion earlier today. I don't think we'll be hearing anymore from Icewater's alter ego... ;)

[quote name="mical" post="695039" timestamp="1257204925"] They may have beat us BLUEDOVE3 but unlike you when you were a kid, our kids are not scared and love to play the game. [/quote] LOL... guys, no one thinks HJ was afraid to play. I posted that earlier. Why do you keep saying that?

[quote name="Silsbee88" post="694576" timestamp="1257185502"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=60050.msg694497#msg694497 date=1257182515] You guys are letting some kids get you all riled up. None of the coaches from WOS think that HJ, Silsbee or BC are scared to play. Just calm down. Silsbee 88, the one thing you said though that I have to disagree with is your comment about the athletic ability of the silsbee 8th grade team over WOS. I saw the game this year up close and both teams are equally talented. The silsbee RB is very fast and broke off a long run, but that was about all they did offensively. The WOS RB is very fast as well. Realistically, both teams are evenly matched. Not trying to take anything away from silsbee, they are good, but so is WOS. I look for them to have some good battles over the next few years. [/quote] Did not mean to say that WOS has no talent or athletic ability, merely letting coldwater and 2010 know that Silsbee is not afraid of strapping up against them anytime or any place.  But go back a year and look at how Silsbee dominated WOS in that game.  Yes, WOS won this year and I too look forward to many year of well fought battles on the gridiron between these two teams. [/quote] Yes sir, I am fully aware of the beat down administered by Silsbee last year. All I will say is that there were some mistakes made last year that were not player related in that game last that have since been rectified. Last years game sould have been more like the one this year. Two equally talented teams battling it out with the winner being the one who played the best defense made the fewest mistakes. ;D

[quote name="Rake1" post="694529" timestamp="1257183413"] Gas, thanks for shedding a little light on the subject about scheduling. I thought the whole thing was a bit odd because there were other places to play. I guess the only folks who know how the whole conversations went were the coaches and we can't go back and change that. I just wish that the cancelled games could be made up so "ALL" the boys who have been affected could get the opportunity to play. I have enjoyed watching all the schools play this year, especially since we know a bunch of folks from other teams. It will really be fun when they get older. Look forward to some awesome games in the future. Rake1 [/quote] Hey, no problem. And yes, it sucks for the kids the most because they work their butts off during the week looking forward to Thursday, then they don't get to experience the pay back. We prepared for BC then HJ in back to back weeks and then... nothing. Hopefully the preparation will help both teams for next year. At least we got to play BC once this year, really would have loved to play HJ.

I'm really interested to see how the Mustangs fare against this offense. It will be interesting. Also, Coldspring runs a similar version of offense, so this will be a good test. I also think that OF will play with intensity, I've never seen them play otherwise. They always play with heart.

You guys are letting some kids get you all riled up. None of the coaches from WOS think that HJ, Silsbee or BC are scared to play. Just calm down. Silsbee 88, the one thing you said though that I have to disagree with is your comment about the athletic ability of the silsbee 8th grade team over WOS. I saw the game this year up close and both teams are equally talented. The silsbee RB is very fast and broke off a long run, but that was about all they did offensively. The WOS RB is very fast as well. Realistically, both teams are evenly matched. Not trying to take anything away from silsbee, they are good, but so is WOS. I look for them to have some good battles over the next few years.

[quote name="Rake1" post="693410" timestamp="1257087226"] Icewater, I have no idea which games you have been watching concerning the A teams?? Yes WOS is talented but they have been far from dominant. They beat Silsbee by a touchdown after Silsbee fumbled 5 times and they squeaked out a 6-0 win over BC in a pre district match up. I agree they are good but the statements about nobody wanting to play them is more than a little off base. The BC game that got cancelled was a mystery? I understand the Varsity rules in situations like this, especially concerning possibly messing up the fields any more than they were. Bridge City's field was wreck to say the least so instead of playing there while the Freshman and JV went to the middle school campus the 7th and 8th grades got left out. Why couldn't they play at Dan Hooks stadium? I know 7th and 8th graders wouldn't mess the field up nearly as bad as the bigger guys? Or even better, the JV and Freshman should have played at Hooks Stadium and the middle schools should have played at East Campus leaving the field at BC ready for the varsity. JMHO. As far as playing the 8th grade A team, I'm sure both BC and HJ would line up in the Wal Mart parking lot and play WOS if they would let them, no fear from either school. [/quote] Rake, couple of things... first, that was not Icewater posting that, I guarantee you. I know him and that is not something he would say. I have a sneaking suspicion that it may be some kids posting under his account. I'm going to let him know about this. Second, we offered to play the Jr High games on our practice field. It would have been perfect, but that offer was turned down. I'm not going to point fingers at who did what, but he offer was made. We wanted to play!

[quote name="fwstangs" post="693690" timestamp="1257109633"] We have always done it since I have been close to the program, last 10 years. But the other day some Dad was saying it was not legal and he did not know how we were getting away with it, pointing out that two kids who played JV were not dressed for the varsity as they have in the past. Even though there were two other JV kids dressed out who played JV. Is there any rule? I looked and of course found nothing saying it was wrong. Others thoughts and knowledge? [/quote] They can't pay for the JV then play for the varsity in the same week. However, our JV did not play this week. So they were OK to play this week.

[quote name="1KatKiller" post="693554" timestamp="1257099001"] They run the wing t. [/quote] Many variations of the Wing- T. Do they use one or two Wing Backs?

[quote name="4x4tx" post="690775" timestamp="1256932523"] Which one is the QB? the 7A Cedar Bayou team from Baytown is 7-0. They have outscored their opponents 209-40 but 26 of those came in a 34-26 win over north shore! [/quote] Chase Rutledgeis the 7th grade A QB.

Does Coldspring still run the Single Wing offense?

I thought, for the most part, the sportsmanship was pretty good from HJ as well. Except after their first TD when the lineman (I think it was #62) walked towards our stands pointing at the scoreboard. And in the second half, when one of the HJ DB's put a good lick on our RB and he jumped up walking toward our side line beating his chest. Other than that, I saw some patting on the heads and such so overall I was pleased with HJ's sportsmanship too...  ;D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="693413" timestamp="1257087543"] [quote author=skipper link=topic=61648.msg693400#msg693400 date=1257086512] aggie, i dont see no state scores on here  did gilmer, win big are did thay play this week [/quote] Gilmer won big, as usual. [/quote] You might as well stop tracking Gilmer scores until they get into the playoffs. That district is terrible this year except Gilmer. They will not be challenged again until they start the playoffs. This may be a good thing for Jasper...

[quote name="ChampionEagles" post="690684" timestamp="1256929111"] People mistakenly think the only way that you are good at what you do is being recognized as being the "best". Striving to do your best is all anyone really can do and then let the chips fall where they may. Recognition sometimes is overrated in that context. Being recognized by your peers as the "best" should be an honor to be appreciated. [/quote] Well said, and I agree with that 100%. I usually stay out of all of the "this guy is better than that one" type of threads. But, CT holds a special place with me and many others. Naturally, I am going to jump to his defense. At the end of the day, all that really matters is what you just said. Good post. And I'm pretty sure that Cornel, himself, would say the same thing. ;)

[quote name="Independent" post="690652" timestamp="1256927787"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=61399.msg690649#msg690649 date=1256927580] [quote author=Independent link=topic=61399.msg690638#msg690638 date=1256927083] Although shut outs are very nice, I don't believe you can use this as a tool to measure greatness in a DC unless you give us the score of the game. I mean if you beat someone 48-0 it is not the same as 14-0. Most of the time a lesser team will score on your back ups late in a game. It happens all the time when you see a 48-6 game. I would have to see the scores of every game and the opponents of these games for shut outs to factor in. I mean if Coach Johnston shuts out Jasper and West Hardin , these are not the same. No more than Coach Thompson shutting out Jasper and Hampshire Fannett. I believe if you are comparing DC's that you would have to measure on State Championships only. [/quote] You WT proponents brought up shut outs, not me. But, I disagree with you. I think over 122 games, points wash due to the law of large numbers. Also,  you can't measure State Championships because it takes more than defense to win a title. It takes defense, offense and special teams. So no, that's not a good measuring stick. I've seen teams with NO defense win titles because their offenses were just that good. In 2000, we went to the title game in 4A and our offense was terrible. But, if you think in the terms you are, you would say that we had the second best offense in the state... LOL Ask anyone who saw our offense that year and ask them if we had the second best... ;) [/quote] Most special teams are your defensive starters (if you're smart). If the other team doesn't score as much as you, you win. Bottom line. [/quote] LOL...

[quote name="ChampionEagles" post="690643" timestamp="1256927342"] [quote author=td link=topic=61399.msg690519#msg690519 date=1256922162] [quote author=ChampionEagles link=topic=61399.msg690474#msg690474 date=1256919786] One point here, if I may. WT wasn't defensive coordinator in '98 when Newton won the title over Daingerfield. Johnny "Squat Low" Westbrook was and had been for many years. When he retired WT became DC. I like WT and he is a fine coach. I think his tutelage by Lidney Thompson probably helped some, but I'm not too sure he would come back to Newton if given a chance. Hopefully he will. He has a way of motivating kids to play for him. [/quote] Dang BooBoo do you ever get a fact right????? [/quote] I don't have to, I'm not on Jeopardy. :D [/quote] Champ, he wasn't refering to you. ;D

[quote name="Independent" post="690638" timestamp="1256927083"] Although shut outs are very nice, I don't believe you can use this as a tool to measure greatness in a DC unless you give us the score of the game. I mean if you beat someone 48-0 it is not the same as 14-0. Most of the time a lesser team will score on your back ups late in a game. It happens all the time when you see a 48-6 game. I would have to see the scores of every game and the opponents of these games for shut outs to factor in. I mean if Coach Johnston shuts out Jasper and West Hardin , these are not the same. No more than Coach Thompson shutting out Jasper and Hampshire Fannett. I believe if you are comparing DC's that you would have to measure on State Championships only. [/quote] You WT proponents brought up shut outs, not me. But, I disagree with you. I think over 122 games, points wash due to the law of large numbers. Also,  you can't measure State Championships because it takes more than defense to win a title. It takes defense, offense and special teams. So no, that's not a good measuring stick. I've seen teams with NO defense win titles because their offenses were just that good. In 2000, we went to the title game in 4A and our offense was terrible. But, if you think in the terms you are, you would say that we had the second best offense in the state... LOL Ask anyone who saw our offense that year and ask them if we had the second best... ;)

You are correct td, we have not played since they dropped.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="690582" timestamp="1256924632"]Good stuff, Gas, even though you got the info from a guy that continiously makes snide remarks about this site. He made one regarding you needing this info. ;D Anyway, good stuff.[/quote] I went and looked at his remarks and they weren't toward me, but this site. Unfortunately, there are many folks who feel that way. It's just to entertaining for me to stay away...

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="690582" timestamp="1256924632"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=61399.msg690566#msg690566 date=1256924089] I told you NOT to motivate me to dig... CT vs WT Last 10 yrs at WOS and Newton (Full seasons) Shutouts: CT-30 WT- 27 Points per game: CT- 11.26 WT- 13.99 Number of opponents in each classification: CT- 5A (2), 4A (70), 3A (49), 2A (0) WT- 5A (0), 4A (11), 3A (62), 2A (63) And the bonus statistic, wins vs one another: CT- 6 WT- 0 Game, set, match... ;) ;D [/quote] Good stuff, Gas, even though you got the info from a guy that continiously makes snide remarks about this site. He made one regarding you needing this info. ;D Anyway, good stuff. I do have a question or two. How can CT be 6-0 against WT if WOS has no 2A opponents? Is part of those numbers include this season? If so, WOS did play 2A Kirbyville. Again, I just ask because I do not know. [/quote] Don't know anything about the guys comments. I'll go address that where it needs to be. ;) These are for full seasons. This one is not complete. And the record against one another is lifetime against one another, but it is 4-0 during that same span. ;D

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="690398" timestamp="1256915693"] I know that I am getting in on this late but comparing a Varsity level Volleyball game to under level football games is a joke.  Yes WOS likely would have won, but who cares!!!!  Why risk the threat of bad weather and injury.  I am sure that for the WOS folks that think that this was all HJ's fault you will look to take it out on poor ol' little HJ on the field tonight!!!! ::) ::) [/quote] I think WOS will just be happy to get the win. Jr high boys have plenty of games ahead of them. I think everyone has said their piece on the matter, it's a mute point from here as far as I'm concerned.

I told you NOT to motivate me to dig... CT vs WT Last 10 yrs at WOS and Newton (Full seasons) Shutouts: CT-30 WT- 27 Points per game: CT- 11.26 WT- 13.99 Number of opponents in each classification: CT- 5A (2), 4A (70), 3A (49), 2A (0) WT- 5A (0), 4A (11), 3A (62), 2A (63) And the bonus statistic, wins vs one another: CT- 6 WT- 0 Game, set, match... ;) ;D

[quote name="Independent" post="690336" timestamp="1256913326"] Fun topic to read, it feels like Jerry Springer. But to quote an old coach...   It ain't about the X's and O's,            it's about the Jimmy's and Joe's. Ask WT or Coach T [/quote] I agree with that.