Gasilla

[quote name="BoboandBlair" post="690229" timestamp="1256907926"] I'm a Kirbyville fan and homer?  LOL!  I'm from Orange County and now live in Lumberton, I don't have a side in this, unlike you.  For the record, can you tell me what the final score was in the 2000 state title game against Ennis?  Do you care to reflect?  What about last years game with Gilmer?  The "best DC's ever" as you would like me to believe, do it when it counts, not playing the Orangefields, Bridge City's, HJ's, Hampshire's, and Kirbyville's.  WOS has fallen on bad times when shutting these people out, and beating a 2A team is room for boasting.  Who would have thought the once mighty WOS that had great teams in the 80's and 90's would have to resort to beating 2A and 3a teams for a measuring stick.  Truely sad. WT did it in Newton for several years beating 3A and 4A schools, then going through the playoffs with a much smaller enrollment than their opponents.  Like I said earlier, the last 10 years it hasn't even been close as to who has been more successful.  I guess you also want me to believe that Dan Ray is a better coach than Coach Barbay too. To wosmustangs  :'(    Show me how I disrespected the names of all the legendary SE Texas coaches by saying WT is a better DC than your beloved Cornel.  I never mentioned their names, you did show some good history though  :o.   I hold most of those guys in high regard actually, along with Willie Ray Smith, Les Koening, Roy Harper, Gene Wakoviak, and Ed Peveto.  Because I don't think Cornel is the best DC in SE Texas don't mean I disrepect anyone, so go cry me a river.....  I guess you can save the tears for another early playoff exit though. [/quote] Let me say first that my problem with bebo is, in no way, intended to disrespect WT or Curtis Barbay. They are great coaches and are, no doubt, some of the best coaches around. Bebo, careful what you ask for, you are going to make me do some digging, you are not going to like what I find, you should have just left it alone, but we are going to take a look at your last 10 years... I will be back, bank on it. ;)

[quote name="Homer" post="690287" timestamp="1256910659"]And I think I am going to watch and see how many HJ basketball games are cancelled because of approaching cold fronts.  Just for the fun of it!![/quote] I'm trying my best to stay out of this, but that is a pretty good point there. We get some pretty bad weather during BBall season.

[quote name="BoboandBlair" post="690079" timestamp="1256873125"] Your right!  Newton won state in 1998 shutting out a very good Dangerfield team 21-0.  That was in 3A.  Don't forget the other 2 state title games Newton has gone to sinc then in 2A.  They lost one, and won one.  Thats 3 state title games since WOS has sniffed the ultimate game, and 2 state championships since WOS has won their last in 1987 (can you remember that far back?).[/quote] If your going to argue a point with me, at least try to be right about SOMETHING. You've been wrong on everything you've posted and this one is no different. WOS went to the state title game in 2000 genius. [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61399.msg690079#msg690079 date=1256873125]What has WOS done in 3A, the past 6 years other than embarrass a once proud name. [/quote] That name must not be to embarassing since most of you Kirbyville fans marquis game this season was a 1 point loss to that team. Heck, you guys are still talking about that and it's what? A month old?  [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61399.msg690079#msg690079 date=1256873125]WOS was one of the more dominant teams in 4A for a long period of time, and when they dropped to 3A were expected to have a strangle hold on the state titles.  WRONG! [/quote]   The only people who thought we were going to have a hold on titles are people like you. As for being dominant, I think that speaks for itself. We've been in 3A since 04 and we lost our first district game this year. I would say that's pretty dominant. [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61399.msg690079#msg690079 date=1256873125]Have they even made it to the semi's?  Thats pretty sad! [/quote]  Wrong again! We went to the semi's in 2005. [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61399.msg690079#msg690079 date=1256873125]Also, please give me some factual info, out of a newspaper if you want me to believe you.  Don't just come out and throw out numbers. [/quote]  When you start giving me something founded in reality, I will do the same. [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61399.msg690079#msg690079 date=1256873125]WT has also done it everwhere he has been. [/quote] Everywhere he has been? Where has he been a DC other than Newton? [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61399.msg690079#msg690079 date=1256873125]Again, look at when Cornel left to "greener" pastures.  Palestein, failure.  Huntsville, major failure.  Only at WOS can he claim success.  And if he can't dominate at a 3A level with the talent that he coaches, and shut much weaker teams out with the much ballyhooed "chain gang" defense then something would be terribly wrong.  Its truely sad that WOS was the talk of Texas as a 5A and 4A power, but can't match the success against much lesser, weaker competition.[/quote] You keep bringing up Palestine, is it that hard for you to understand? He was not the DC at Palestine. I think some of you are having a problem with reading comprehension. The topic is who is the best DC. Get it? DC! Cornel was not the DC at Palestine. He was the DC at Hunstville for one year of which they had the best season they had in several seasons. He came back to WOS because he loves it, he loves the people of Orange and he loves DRH. As for domination. As for not having the success we had in 4A, well, we did not make the playoffs in 01, 02 and 03. The last 3 years we were in 4A. We have not missed them since dropping. I think that is far exceeding the success we were having. [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61399.msg690079#msg690079 date=1256873125]Can one of the WOS homers, clarify why Cornel thought Adrian Peterson wasn't good enough to play tailback for him at Palestein?  I always wanted to know that.  Thats a pretty good reason as to why he couldn't cut the mustard there.   [/quote] Because AD did not want to be a team player and follow team rules. That will not "cut the mustard" with cornel no matter how big a "star" you are.

[quote name="Headliner1" post="690071" timestamp="1256872618"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=61399.msg690066#msg690066 date=1256872355] [quote author=Headliner1 link=topic=61399.msg690062#msg690062 date=1256871905] [i][b]WT is the best defensive coordinator around.[/b][/i]  Kirbyville wanted him to be their d coordinator but he did not want to step on any toes and take vanya's place.  And Im sure he will not be in Kville forever.   He is going to be the heir to Barbay in Newton once Curtis (if he ever does) hangs up his hat.  Im sure Newton would pay WT whatever it takes for him to take over after barbay. [/quote] Give us some statistical information to support this claim, otherwise, it is just your opinion. We have given statistical data to support Cornel Thompson. How many times, if at all, has Newton or Kirbyville had the number 1 defense in the state in 3A much less all classes while he coached them? I'd bet it is a big fat ZERO. [/quote] Ill give you a statistic... WT has two state rings in the last ten years... how many does Cornel have???? hmmmmmmm [/quote] Does he? Where did he get them, hmmmmmmmm.  ??? Also, I thought the topic was who was the best DC in SETX, not which one has the most rings... You guys keep making claims, but you don't have anything to back it up other to bring up something off topic... ::)

[quote name="Headliner1" post="690062" timestamp="1256871905"] [i][b]WT is the best defensive coordinator around.[/b][/i]  Kirbyville wanted him to be their d coordinator but he did not want to step on any toes and take vanya's place.  And Im sure he will not be in Kville forever.   He is going to be the heir to Barbay in Newton once Curtis (if he ever does) hangs up his hat.  Im sure Newton would pay WT whatever it takes for him to take over after barbay. [/quote] Give us some statistical information to support this claim, otherwise, it is just your opinion. We have given statistical data to support Cornel Thompson. How many times, if at all, has Newton or Kirbyville had the number 1 defense in the state in 3A much less all classes while he coached them? I'd bet it is a big fat ZERO.

[quote name="77" post="689957" timestamp="1256866503"] WOS probably has the best field in the area for wet weather for the under classmen to play on and thats the old Stark field, old man Stark built that one right. [/quote] You aren't kidding! It can rain 4 inches and you can play on it an hour later. The field drains great!!!

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="689795" timestamp="1256853952"] Gas, I didn't know that your games last week were canceled. Why were those canceled? [/quote] Because the field was wet... ::)

[quote name="Stangs92" post="689779" timestamp="1256852442"] That's ridiculous. These kids need to play also. [/quote] Actually, when I posted my post I did not know there was actually a tornado warning issued. Probably better safe than sorry when considering the distance between schools.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="689789" timestamp="1256853671"] C'mon now, you guys seriously aren't comparing this to the volleyball situation are you?  ::) [/quote] I agree, these are two different situations and we really don't need to go down this road.

[quote name="Castor27" post="689777" timestamp="1256852365"] [quote author=w link=topic=61511.msg689763#msg689763 date=1256851278] I feel the same way, Gas.  HJ made a big deal out of WOS volleyball girls "forfeiting" the game to go to a football game and we have a "possibility" of bad weather coming and HJ goes ahead and cancels before it ever gets here.  What's up with that? Maybe we should have done that with a couple of our rainy nights. [/quote] First the game was canceled by mutual agreement. It was due to the threat of bad weather and not wanting to have kids traveling on the roads in that bad weather. As was stated above we are under a tornado watch and I don't think either school wanted to risk something happening to their kids if the situation gets worse (which if you believe the forecast it will). After the West Book soccer incident a few years ago, there are a lot of parents and administrators that think twice about sending their kids out with the threat of severe weather. IMO it isn't worth the unnecessary risk to a kids safety just to get in an underlevel game. Apparently there are some people in West Orange that feel differently. Second, if you go back to the thread about the volleyball game you will see that most of the criticism came from people other than people from HJ. And I would say under level football games are a far cry from VARSITY district volleyball games that could have playoff implications. [/quote] You are correct, we do not need to endanger our children. I guess if the schools were a little closer we could try it. This just makes 2 weeks in a row that our games got cancelled and, to my knowledge, we are the only ones missing out for the second straight week. The kids work hard and they were really looking forward to playing especially since HJ only had one loss for the year. Oh well, better safe than sorry I guess.

[quote name="griff" post="689696" timestamp="1256847037"] Because of bad weather?  [/quote] Since there is no bad weather in Orange,  guess we need to call it the "threat" of bad weather. FYI- BC and OF are still playing.

[quote name="2010" post="689220" timestamp="1256817631"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=60050.msg688917#msg688917 date=1256770658] It's going to be wet tomorrow, but the WOS Middle school field drains really well. I sure hope HJ doesn't cancel on us. The kids need to play! [/quote]YOU AINT LIEN. HEARD DAT WOS HAD A GAME CANCELLED LAST WEEK. THAT WOULD BE 2 DISTRICT GAMES [/quote] Well, as anticipated, they DID cancel. I guess even the threat of rain now a days is enough to cancel a game... ::) They cancelled all subvarsity games, 7th-JV.

[quote name="Homer" post="689277" timestamp="1256824362"] [quote author=2010 link=topic=60050.msg689220#msg689220 date=1256817631] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=60050.msg688917#msg688917 date=1256770658] It's going to be wet tomorrow, but the WOS Middle school field drains really well. I sure hope HJ doesn't cancel on us. The kids need to play! [/quote]YOU AINT LIEN. HEARD DAT WOS HAD A GAME CANCELLED LAST WEEK. THAT WOULD BE 2 DISTRICT GAMES [/quote] yup, it did.  BC had to cancel because of their field being in such bad shape with all the wet Friday night games I am guessing because it stopped raining about 3:00 that day and all the other games were played.  The only good thing about it is that those 2 teams played a preseason game before district so they can count that as the district game. [/quote] Well, OF and BC are playing on it today... and that is confirmed! Guess it is in a little better shape this week.

WOS vs HJ too. And it hasn't rained a drop yet in Orange... ::) ::) ::)

[quote name="BoboandBlair" post="689124" timestamp="1256785394"] If you want to go back and rely on what he did in the 80's and 90's then yes, Cornel would be the best.  What has he done in the last 6 years.  Since he left WOS for Palestein he hasn't done much.  He failed in Palestine, and didn't do much at Huntsville.  The only success he has had is at WOS.  And that was his previous stint.  For some reason, his defenses playing lesser competition in 3A have been worse than when they played in a tougher 4a league. Lie I said WT is the best DC in the area.  Tell me who's defense they are running in K-ville and that will tell you who's has the input. [/quote] You know, it's funny how some of you homers like to see things through rose colored glasses. You guys are the ones who brought up what this guy did at Newton when they won state in 1998, then you come back with. "Well, if you want to count what he did in the 80's and 90's... blah, blah, blah", LOL. The question was who is the best DC in the area. It didn't say who was the best DC over the past 6 years OR who is the best defensive coach who advises a DC that used to be a DC but now just coaches the defense and we really don't know what his title is... The best DC in this area is Cornel Thompson and is probably the best in the state of Texas. You can look at his entire career as the DC at WOS or the last 6 years or however many years you want to. His defenses have been the best in the district EVERY year including the years that Kville was in it. A few of those years it was the best in the state in 3A. That's what he has done. Just because the WOS team has not won a state title does not mean they do not have a good defense.

[quote name="Kvillecats" post="689175" timestamp="1256793791"] HJ-Hawk25 if yall play solid defense for four full quarters it will get interesting. Their Offensive scheme is not working for them this year, Kirbyville whoop them every where except for where it counted and thats the scoreboard. It was a crazy way to lose. [/quote] LOL

[quote name="BoboandBlair" post="687640" timestamp="1256660438"] Who's defense are they running?  Who's putting together the gameplan?  If I remember correctly K-ville also has an offensive coordinator, but Alvarez calls the plays.  Sometimes the title is just a title. Not taking anything away from Vanya though, the guys a great coach and will be a head coach again as soon as he wants to be.  IMO Kirbyville has the best coaching staff in the area regardless of classification. [/quote] 1. To be the best DC in the area you probably should ACTUALLY be a DC. 2. Cornel Thompson is by far the most proven DC in this area (we can count shut outs if you would like). 3. He was not the DC at Palestine. 4. He was only the DC at Huntsville for one season. 5. He left WOS after the 2000 season where his defense was the #1 defense in 4A and all classifications and went to the DII state title game.

That would be pointless. He would have to sit out a year before he could play and he is a senior.

I wonder if WOS will line up in the Power I again? BC just could not stop it.

It's going to be wet tomorrow, but the WOS Middle school field drains really well. I sure hope HJ doesn't cancel on us. The kids need to play!

Then it's a good thing we don't play them then...

If Jasper makes the playoffs, they go DI no matter where they finish in district. Also, There is still a chance CH can make the playoffs. They have to beat Gladewater by 14 or more in week 10. Not likely, but still a posibility.

[quote name="bulldawg64" post="687151" timestamp="1256603004"] i remember a game in pasadena ,cold in the playoffs indians won [/quote] I remember that game. It was against Jasper.

[quote name="venom33" post="687130" timestamp="1256601657"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=61239.msg687124#msg687124 date=1256601431] [quote author=33 link=topic=61239.msg686752#msg686752 date=1256583855] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=61239.msg686400#msg686400 date=1256560218] [quote author=td link=topic=61239.msg686372#msg686372 date=1256553895] [quote author=RedBird5 link=topic=61239.msg686102#msg686102 date=1256515215] But you never hear our fans " This is the year to win state". [/quote] I just went to the baseball thread and you made this exact comment on Saturday. You said you thought this was the year yall would win State and then you have the baseballs to come to a football thread and make this comment. You lost all credibility. RedBird5 Senior Karma: +51/-35 [applaud] [smite] Posts: 529    Re: WHo will make playoffs in 21-3a?? « Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 02:36:45 PM » Quote  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BC has yet to win a state championship. I think this may be the year though [/quote] Dayum! Looks like Redbird and 33 are a walking contradiction! ::) [/quote] you sir are an idiot [/quote] LOL... Nice come back, about what I expected. I guess I could go back and dig up where [b]you have told people that name calling is not necessary[/b], but I think you, obviously, get the point. By your reaction I would say it is [u][i][b]painfully[/b][/i][/u] obvious. ;D [/quote] thats very true gas, i was the one being reprimanded by him for it! [/quote] ;)

[quote name="33" post="686752" timestamp="1256583855"] [quote author=Gasilla link=topic=61239.msg686400#msg686400 date=1256560218] [quote author=td link=topic=61239.msg686372#msg686372 date=1256553895] [quote author=RedBird5 link=topic=61239.msg686102#msg686102 date=1256515215] But you never hear our fans " This is the year to win state". [/quote] I just went to the baseball thread and you made this exact comment on Saturday. You said you thought this was the year yall would win State and then you have the baseballs to come to a football thread and make this comment. You lost all credibility. RedBird5 Senior Karma: +51/-35 [applaud] [smite] Posts: 529   Re: WHo will make playoffs in 21-3a?? « Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 02:36:45 PM » Quote   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BC has yet to win a state championship. I think this may be the year though [/quote] Dayum! Looks like Redbird and 33 are a walking contradiction! ::) [/quote] you sir are an idiot [/quote] LOL... Nice come back, about what I expected. I guess that I could go back and dig up where you have told people that name calling is not necessary. But, I think you, obviously, get the point. Judging by your reaction, I would say it is [u][i][b]painfully[/b][/i][/u] obvious. ;D