Gasilla

LOL... I knew that one was coming. Didn't know who it would be from, but knew it was coming.

Yawn... :

No sir, I have not. I am just going by the overall record of those teams... I guess that's kind of like discrediting a teams predistrict and calling them underdogs because they played 3A teams, huh?

I'm sorry, I knew they went to OT with one of them, so it was the 1-2 team not the 2-2 team. My bad. The fact I AM sure of is the overall record of opponents. That should concern you. Also, I do feel that PNG has improved and I am very glad and I think they will have a good season, but for some of the PNG fans to assume a win here when they haven't performed any better than LCM the last year or two and have not played anyone tougher is a little on the arrogant side and very foolish. JMO

Well, now that I have caught up on this thread, these are my thoughts. I see a lot of "upset" and "sneak up on" being used as if PNG was good last year and LCM was not or PNG was the team to beat. Neither team were very good last year. That being said, I just don't understand how PNG folks could just assume they are better than LCM. I'm a WOS fan and am fairly neutral, but looking at both teams opponents this year, if I were a PNG fan, I would be wondering how good my team REALLY is. LCM has played tough teams, they know where they are. Although it is said many times over how much scrimmages don't matter, I would be, at least a LITTLE concerned about the fact that Cleveland put the smack down on BH like they did. A team that PNG went to OT with. I am also seeing a little LCM mentality that they "hope" they compete. Sure hope the kids don't have the same because PNG has done nothing this year that should make them feel they are an underdog. This is just the first district game, an important game, but no more so than any other. If they play like they did against Cleveland, they win this game.

PNG opponents combined record- (4-6) LCM opponents combined record- (9-3)

I was wondering what had happened to the level headed folks from over there. Good to see you are still around. This will not be an easy game for either team and I honestly think prior performance this year favors LCM. If LCM does win, this will be nowhere close to being an upset.

My thoughts exactly.

WOS is off as well (couldn't have come at a better time) and I will going to check out what's going on over there in OF and watch those Bobcats take on Newton. I think this is going to be a good game.

... and to add to that, I also remember how miserable Jasper made our offense look that game as they beat us 21-8 and we scored the "8" at the end of the game and was a meaningless TD. We also had other games that year where we looked very bad, one that comes to mind was a 14-0 loss to Aldine Mac. We also had some highly touted seniors that year who just did not seem to want to step up and claim this as their team and elevate the play of those around them. Things change, kids play better, and some kids emerge as leaders as the season progresses. I'm not saying that this will happen or that we are destin for a season like we had in 1986. But, make no mistake, the potential to do that is there, it's just up to all involved to get it there. They either will, or they won't...

How about that... Something we agree on... ;D Nice Grad, I agree with you completely. We need leaders on the offensive side of the ball and they guys who are supposed to be doing it, aren't. That is the first thing that needs fixing, then, like someone else mentioned, the rest will take care of itself.

I have been saying for the last 2 weeks that I feel we are overrated right now. And as I've said, luckily, right now doesn't matter. As someone said earlier, very few teams that win the title do it with undefeated records. We are definitely not going to fold it up after a close win and a loss to good, proven programs like Jasper and kirbyville. We will only get better from playing them. The last few years we have played great early in the season and everyone here thought we were awesome. Then, we fizzle out late against teams no better than the ones we beat early on. Maybe this is something that needs to happen, but then again, maybe we will lose to OF and HJ and miss the playoffs. There are no guarantees in this game, but one thing is for sure. The season is still young, we have 2 weeks to work on things and we have one of the best coaching staffs in the state working their butts off to get all of this talent heading in the right direction. I like our chances.

I'm trying to figure out why a couple of PNG fans are over here trying their best to discredit what LCM has done. You can try to reason why they are not good all you want, but it's not going to help the Indians next week. I saw Cleveland play last year and they returned that team in tact. Looking at both schedules, LCM has played the toughest, don't matter if they are 3A teams or not. WOS and Cleveland are better than anyone PNG has played.

77, I don't doubt that there are things that disappear around here, but I can assure you that nothing that I have ever posted has been taken down. However, I don't think you were really referring to me.

I hope WOS irons out there problems, and they do have some problems that are not Jasper and Kirbyville related. WELL SAID!! The problems I'm talking about are not the same ones you are.

Everyone kind of wants to see the things that more favor them... We WOS fans want to see it as something that can be improved upon due to lack of execution, Jasper and Kirbyville fans want to see it as superior play by their defenses and others want to see it that way to because it gives them a little confidence that they will also take the Stangs down when they are on the field. The truth is somewhere in between. It has a lot to do with excellent defensive play by Jasper and Kirbyville and also has some to do with a lack of execution on the part of WOS. Either way, this game is over and it's time to move on. I hope Kirbyville and Jasper both go far this year. I honestly feel that both will. Some of these teams fans seem to be searching here for respect, but those who really know these programs gave them respect before these games were even played. You can't put so much into what some rabid fans say and you can't think that everyone in that community feels the same way these few posters do. I guarantee that no WOS player or coach doubted what these teams were capable of and don't hate the program because of this website. I hope WOS irons out there problems, and they do have some problems that are not Jasper and Kirbyville related.

My objective observation is that baddog is a spiteful "teenager like" adult who is still pissing and moaning over an assessment made about his team 3 weeks ago. That he will scout threads that don't even concern his team because the stinger of reality is painfully evident that the assessment was accurate after each time his team plays. I also know that he spends much time trying to come up with his quirky little posts to make himself seem like something other than what he REALLY is, but his underlying tone is embarassingly evident and he doesn't even realize it. I think he TRULY feels he is speaking for all of Bulldog fans in his posts, but in reality, most Bulldog fans wish he would just shut the heck up. He repeatedly accuses me of whining, homerism, and denouncing other teams, but has yet to provide any proof of his accusations (because they don't exist). How is that? I can come up with more if I need to, I just thought I would go easy to start and bring in the really hard stuff as back up... I think that is a pretty fair assessment. I speak for myself and no one else. You like to rally the troops with fewer than 5 posts. You were also the one who went to the Nederland board and copy/pasted a thread where they were discussing the loss to WOS. You called them whiners and posted it on your board. How childish is that? What a putz. I don't try and make myself appear to be any more than I am. That's just your way of lessening my argument. It wasn't your assessment, it was your condescending tone for the umpteenth time. AAW, there are plenty of homers around crying their eyes out. As for the tree, I'm hiking my leg on that one! OMG... Seriously? You are either not concerned with the way things REALLY are OR you are an extremely dense person trying to act intelligent. Either way you are so far off base that I'm thinking the latter. The post that YOU ARE pissing and moaning about was not a "discussion" about the WOS loss. It was posted over on the NED board BEFORE we even played. A couple of Ned posters posted pictures of Coach Hooks up and were running him down and calling HIM a whiner. This was before the game was ever played and had nothing to do with the loss. It was Ned fans running down our coach. Now, how "childish" is THAT??? I've never seen anything like that on any other boards where fans go and talk $hit on a coach like that. So heck yeah, I posted it on our board for coach and everyone to see BEFORE the game was even played. Nothing like a little bulletin board material. Could you imagine the public out cry had someone from WOS done that about Neuman? WOS fans always give Neuman the respect he deserves and Ned fans do that... : Every time you try and make a point it's obvious that you are not reading the material or you are reading and not comprehending. Either way, the more you bumble around with your arguments, the more retarded you look. But, go ahead, give me more... ;D

Congratulations Dogs! I think you have yourself a good team there and I really like how your new coach game plans. We come out expecting the Stacked I and he runs the spread. I thought Jasper was very physical and quick. Has good size and just all around good football team. WOS has got to re-group now and get some problems worked out. Good thing is that there is still time. I think Jasper may win their district.

My objective observation is that baddog is a spiteful "teenager like" adult who is still pissing and moaning over an assessment made about his team 3 weeks ago. That he will scout threads that don't even concern his team because the stinger of reality is painfully evident that the assessment was accurate after each time his team plays. I also know that he spends much time trying to come up with his quirky little posts to make himself seem like something other than what he REALLY is, but his underlying tone is embarassingly evident and he doesn't even realize it. I think he TRULY feels he is speaking for all of Bulldog fans in his posts, but in reality, most Bulldog fans wish he would just shut the heck up. He repeatedly accuses me of whining, homerism, and denouncing other teams, but has yet to provide any proof of his accusations (because they don't exist). How is that? I can come up with more if I need to, I just thought I would go easy to start and bring in the really hard stuff as back up... I think that is a pretty fair assessment.

I hear the Silsbee 8th grade is loaded! 7th grade WOS- 22 Jasper- 0

WOS JV- 30 Jasper JV- 0 9:39 3rd qtr

...and most of the people who usually pick WOS to win are not usually WOS people. However, when you have won every district game you've played since 2004 and have a talented team coming back, who wouldn't pick you to win it? I think that is kind of silly saying that it's "annoying" because people pick them. As for WOS being overrated, probably are right now. I do not think we are the 3rd best team in the state. Good thing "right now" doesn't matter. I will say this and I say it with the most objectove outlook I can. I truly feel that WOS will bring a state title back to this area before any other team in the triangle does. It's not a matter of if, but when. Now, if you include Kirbyville or Newton in the Triangle, I may be wrong there. ;D

WOS 7th 22 Jasper 7th 0- Final WOS 9th 34 Jasper 9th 8- Final

Here is his stats for passing for each game: Houston Davis 8-12 96 yards 1 TD ( he only played the first half ) Diboll 15-31 338 yards 3 TD's 2 INT's Lumberton 23-36 271 yards 2 TD's 1 INT OK I just remembered a sub 100yd game.