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I agree with this. They've got into a couple of alignments that look like an attempt at the 50. Makes me wonder if they just don't know how to coach it, but Hick has been there for 6 years as a defensive coach. How could he not know it?

Tiger, the way the hiring process went down combined with the changes he's made has made many WOS faithful on edge. He could not control the hiring process, but he did know the culture at WOS. Again, with everything else going on, changing what made WOS, WOS was not the best idea IMO. By that, he's put himself in a precarious situation. I'll say this, too. I've stated my opinion about the changes, but in that I'm not saying I want him gone. I'm hoping he's big enough to recognize when he's made a mistake and adjust. Cornel did it with his offense after he took the helm in 2011. There's nothing wrong with trying something different. But keeping it just because it's what you want is when it becomes a problem. The measure of a true leader is not about getting it right every time. It's being able to admit when you are wrong and making the necessary adjustments to correct that mistake. Understanding that the program comes first and bigger than you are. This is a defining moment for him.

He has. Makes it even more curious about the switch.

We would, for sure, be thinking December. I guess another problem I see and many others have voiced; it's fine that you don't have previous experience. But, knowing that, you make changes? I mean, why? It wreaks of, "I'm going to do things the way I want to do them and show you all" aka- pride. Many who've poured blood sweat and tears into the building of those traditions feel that way. That's why you have ex-players making rants on FB.

Bug, I think it's many things that begin with changing from the 50. I think the present coach is a great person, but, I think it's a poor decision to come in and the first thing you do is change the first thing you said you wouldn't change. That also happens to be the foundation the program was built on. You know, it's kind of one of those deals, if your going to come in and change the foundation of the program, you sure as heck better be successful at it. I agree with DJ in that we don't have the personnel to run the 40. There's a reason we ran the 50 all these years. The lineman you need at the 3 techniques we don't have every year. The 50 plays into what we have in abundance, quickness. That, and we don't tackle like Mustangs anymore and I can only wonder if we still hit and tackle in practice (we may, that's just speculation). I've seen the people on FB blaming it on a young team and an overall lack of talent from years past. I coached these kids and the 10 classes before them. This class has as much talent, experience and ability as the last 2 or 3. All in all, I hope they get this thing rolling. But, when you make changes to something that didn't need changes, you put yourself on a much shorter leash than you would had you truly attempted to "continue the tradition".

I respect your views and agree that some things are getting out of hand. But, this is NOT a young team. We return 8 on both sides of the ball and the senior group never lost from 7th through JV.

With the rise of Hudl, scouting isn't done like it used to be. Most scouting now is done via Hudl in lieu of the cost of sending out scout teams all over the place.

That hasn't happened with the current varsity group, but, depending on where the season ends up, will be a real problem in the future.

We have 8 back on each side of the ball from a regional finalist. The senior class didn't lose from 7th thru JV. Talent isn't the issue.

What did it say?

I wouldn't bet the house on that.

83 points in 3 games.

The success is undeniable. Less than 2 scores per game for our history and more shut outs than losses, but that defensive scheme had to go? Are we trying to continue the tradition or destroy it?

They're being taught something... How to lose.

I dont think that there's much doubt that they'd probably be #1 in all classes defensively if that was a stat someone kept. Not saying they were the best in the state every year but they were certainly close to the top in most years. There's always a team each year that had so much talent that they were loaded defensively, but we were good every year and great many.

Yup and I think they might be 1-3. When has that ever happened?

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True, much more to this than people know.

That's almost comical coming from a team known for being swiss cheese on defense... again, smarter than a legend...

Right, smack on the money.

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It's irrelevent after 3 games... ive never seen a 3 game title run. Have you? The defense, as it stands, will not support a long playoff run. That's why we're asking question... and hoping changes are made. This is a message board, ya know. It's kind of what you do here.

The records irrelevent. I'm not saying anything about what the coaches know. Do you think all coaches are outstanding with infinite knowledge? If so, why are some great and others not? Why do some run a certain style of defense and others a different style? Obviously, there can be problems with what coaches know. Do you think a coach with no experience knows more than a coach with 50 years of experience? Heck, since we're asking questions, what about a coach with no experience compared to a coach with 50 years and headed to the Hall Of Fame? In the case of WOS, I have no idea why they changed from what's been successful for 45 years. It may have nothing to do with knowledge. It could be pride. Maybe he wants it to be HIS. Maybe he doesn't want to be under the shadow of the past. Is that the right reason to change? Is that fair to the kids? Lots of questions.

I dont know if there not figuring it out or it just doesn't fit. Why change it? That's the question. Sure we lost to bigger schools. We're 20-8 all time against PNG and they've been bigger than us in most of those. Are you saying that's why our defense is bad? Because PNG is bigger? The last 2 games, we've given up 6-7 yards a carry between the tackles. That's never happened.

Ah, I was waiting for that. Its the players fault, right. Eight of which played pretty well in the 50 last year. Nice rant BTW. I dont have a problem with the new head man. I just have to question the decision to change something that worked right out the gate. I'm a grown man, I will question what I question.