Gasilla

OK...Now that was funny. I don't get it...

I saw where a Ned fan actually picked us to win. That's GOT to be a first.

Yes, it's a great field.

LMAO... That's funny. Sorry LCM fans, but you have to admit, that's funny. uh...not really. Sounds like something my 9 year old would say. But I guess thats the type of humor you actually get, huh?? : : And by that you mean.......? It was funny. Lighten up "Francis". ;D I think what he meant was "the field was terrible and everyone was slipping". You must be looking for an arguement Dad! BTW you know Gasilla really doesn't get 9 year old humor yet. I was just trying to get a rise out of Gas, but, BOJO = no mo...not really that funny (unless you are 9). Well, sorry man, I thought it was funny, guess I'll just have to keep that to myself and the rest of the 9yr olds around... oh and td, too. ;D OK... I'm assuming this is directed to the guy who made the field comment. I think BOTH teams were pretty hampered by the field conditions.

LMAO... That's funny. Sorry LCM fans, but you have to admit, that's funny. uh...not really. Sounds like something my 9 year old would say. But I guess that's the type of humor you actually get, huh?? : : And by that you mean.......? It was funny. Lighten up "Francis". ;D I think what he meant was "the field was terrible and everyone was slipping". You must be looking for an arguement Dad! BTW you know Gasilla really doesn't get 9 year old humor yet. If I could just get my wife's I'd be happy (humour that is)... ;D Hey Dad, your 9 yr old must be a witty little fellow.

LMAO... That's funny. Sorry LCM fans, but you have to admit, that's funny.

Cool! Thanks for the info Coop.

Once again, someone talking about Hooks who has no clue about the man. If WOS loses to Kirbyville, then we lose to a team that was better than us that night. There is no shame in losing to a 2A school, especially one that is one year removed from being 3A. He may be upset, but it will be about the loss, not what classification the team that beat us was in. u can say that because its the right thing to say but surely u dont believe that. I do know Hooks well enough to now that is not true and so does the rest of southeast texas that is not a mustang fan!!!!!!!!!! I know and believe it and I assure you that I am as big a mustang fan as they come. Tell me, just how well do you know Hooks? When was the last time you spoke with him? Do you know him personally, or just by what you read on message boards? Wow... I assume from your lack of response to my earlier post that you have never spoke with Dan. My guess is that you have never even met him, but you know enough about him to make comments about his ego on a public forum. I can assure you that if he cared that much, he wouldn't put them on the schedule. Hmmmm... maybe your knowledge of this game mirrors your knowledge of Hooks? Looks like it to me anyway. Have you seen ANY of the teams you listed on this poll other than Kville? My guess is no... but you are still expert enough to say that Kville has the best chance. I'll say this, they ALL have the skill to beat WOS, but skill alone ain't enough. At this point, Jasper is the more likely of the list. They have performed well in scrimmages against quality competition.

Once again, someone talking about Hooks who has no clue about the man. If WOS loses to Kirbyville, then we lose to a team that was better than us that night. There is no shame in losing to a 2A school, especially one that is one year removed from being 3A. He may be upset, but it will be about the loss, not what classification the team that beat us was in. u can say that because its the right thing to say but surely u dont believe that. I do know Hooks well enough to now that is not true and so does the rest of southeast texas that is not a mustang fan!!!!!!!!!! I know and believe it and I assure you that I am as big a mustang fan as they come. Tell me, just how well do you know Hooks? When was the last time you spoke with him? Do you know him personally, or just by what you read on message boards?

I agree with you. I am not saying that they are preparing to win a scrimmage, I know they don't watch films and scout the other team. I'm saying that the outcome is important. Not on your record, but on how your team has progressed. If it were just practice then why go thru the trouble of arranging and playing them in all kinds of conditions like we have the last few weeks. If the outcome doesn't matter, then why do it at all? Why risk having players injured? It's because coaches need to see how they stack up against someone else and how they perform against that team matters, it matters a lot. See Gasilla, this is what I have been talking about all along. It matters how the team performs, not if they "win" or "lose" the scrimmage. I said a long time ago there are alot of semantics involved here... win, lose, outperform, underperform, what's the difference? It's the same thing. Just like people saying a scrimmage is just practice... BS... you are playing a game, or competing against another team where the result is tracked and yes, I've not seen a single scrimmage so far where no one kept score. Why? Because that is how you track success (or outperforming or underperforming if you like). When you keep score, there is a winner and a loser. I've never heard of someone scoring less points and tying or winning, have you? The result does matter whether it counts toward your record or not, it shows where you are at, at this point. It does not mean that you are going to have a bad season, just that you aren't as good as the team you are playing at that point. Again, that's the whole reason for them, to see how you stack up against the competition. All of that has nothing to do with my post to Stangchain, she was saying that the WOS coaches do not game plan to win a scrimmage, and they don't, but whether they win or lose that scrimmage is important to them. I will assume that you are speaking for yourself on this matter, Gasilla, and not for the WOS coaches. I find it hard to believe that the Mustang coaches consider "winning" a scrimmage the most important over how well or poor they perform in that scrimmage. An example being for the Mustangs starters to not score on another teams 1st team, the Chain Gang defense give up 2 td's, but WOS score 4 td's on the other team's complete 2nd and 3rd teams, therefore "winning" the scrimmage.(assuming you are right about the Mustangs not having a 2nd team, just some reserve players) p.s. I think this proverbial dead horse(mustang) ;D, is still kicking. That's why I am still beating it. ;D Of course, this is my opinion, just as yours, is yours. I've never polled our coaches about how they feel particularly about scrimmages, but I did play for a couple of them so I DO have a clue. As for scoring against second and third teams, I can only tell you that I've been to every scrimmage we have had in the last 4 or 5 years and, in that span, I have not seen another team put in a second or third team. I've seen a back up or two, but never an entire platoon (as I've said before). Friday, against vidor, they kept their first team in the entire game with some subs rotating in here and there (just like they would in a real game). It was that way for BOTH of us because BOTH teams wanted to WIN. I think the problem here is that your not very realistic on how these things work. Well I have been to many a scrimmage myself, mostly Silsbee. But I have seen my Tigers 2 platoon for many years. I went to the Jasper/Nederland scrimmage and for the most part, both teams had 1st and 2nd teams. I admit that they may not have been complete 11 different players, but I saw at least 8-10 different players going from 1st to 2nd team. Just because WOS doesn't have enough to 2 platoon, don't assume that others don't do it in scrimmage games. That's funny, because I was also atr the Jasper/Ned scrimmage, I didn't see wholesale changes. The Jasper QB sat the entire second half, but most of the offense remained the same with the exception of a few rotating in (which they will do in games). The same with Nederland. Ahh yes... the patented Aggies Are We shot at WOS. You so love to do that don't you? Why is it you so loath WOS? I also find it funny that, all of the sudden, they are scrimmage "games". I thought they were, "just practice"? Finally(and this is it for me, I'm sure folks are bored with reading this), WOS wasn't the only team involved in these scrimmages over the last 4 years where wholesale substitutions didn't occur. So, I wonder why the other team didn't platoon? Maybe, because they wanted to WIN the scrimmage...

I agree with you. I am not saying that they are preparing to win a scrimmage, I know they don't watch films and scout the other team. I'm saying that the outcome is important. Not on your record, but on how your team has progressed. If it were just practice then why go thru the trouble of arranging and playing them in all kinds of conditions like we have the last few weeks. If the outcome doesn't matter, then why do it at all? Why risk having players injured? It's because coaches need to see how they stack up against someone else and how they perform against that team matters, it matters a lot. See Gasilla, this is what I have been talking about all along. It matters how the team performs, not if they "win" or "lose" the scrimmage. I said a long time ago there are alot of semantics involved here... win, lose, outperform, underperform, what's the difference? It's the same thing. Just like people saying a scrimmage is just practice... BS... you are playing a game, or competing against another team where the result is tracked and yes, I've not seen a single scrimmage so far where no one kept score. Why? Because that is how you track success (or outperforming or underperforming if you like). When you keep score, there is a winner and a loser. I've never heard of someone scoring less points and tying or winning, have you? The result does matter whether it counts toward your record or not, it shows where you are at, at this point. It does not mean that you are going to have a bad season, just that you aren't as good as the team you are playing at that point. Again, that's the whole reason for them, to see how you stack up against the competition. All of that has nothing to do with my post to Stangchain, she was saying that the WOS coaches do not game plan to win a scrimmage, and they don't, but whether they win or lose that scrimmage is important to them. I will assume that you are speaking for yourself on this matter, Gasilla, and not for the WOS coaches. I find it hard to believe that the Mustang coaches consider "winning" a scrimmage the most important over how well or poor they perform in that scrimmage. An example being for the Mustangs starters to not score on another teams 1st team, the Chain Gang defense give up 2 td's, but WOS score 4 td's on the other team's complete 2nd and 3rd teams, therefore "winning" the scrimmage.(assuming you are right about the Mustangs not having a 2nd team, just some reserve players) p.s. I think this proverbial dead horse(mustang) ;D, is still kicking. That's why I am still beating it. ;D Of course, this is my opinion, just as yours, is yours. I've never polled our coaches about how they feel particularly about scrimmages, but I did play for a couple of them so I DO have a clue. As for scoring against second and third teams, I can only tell you that I've been to every scrimmage we have had in the last 4 or 5 years and, in that span, I have not seen another team put in a second or third team. I've seen a back up or two, but never an entire platoon (as I've said before). Friday, against vidor, they kept their first team in the entire game with some subs rotating in here and there (just like they would in a real game). It was that way for BOTH of us because BOTH teams wanted to WIN. I think the problem here is that your not very realistic on how these things work.

I agree with you. I am not saying that they are preparing to win a scrimmage, I know they don't watch films and scout the other team. I'm saying that the outcome is important. Not on your record, but on how your team has progressed. If it were just practice then why go thru the trouble of arranging and playing them in all kinds of conditions like we have the last few weeks. If the outcome doesn't matter, then why do it at all? Why risk having players injured? It's because coaches need to see how they stack up against someone else and how they perform against that team matters, it matters a lot. See Gasilla, this is what I have been talking about all along. It matters how the team performs, not if they "win" or "lose" the scrimmage. I said a long time ago there are alot of semantics involved here... win, lose, outperform, underperform, what's the difference? It's the same thing. Just like people saying a scrimmage is just practice... BS... you are playing a game, or competing against another team where the result is tracked and yes, I've not seen a single scrimmage so far where no one kept score. Why? Because that is how you track success (or outperforming or underperforming if you like). When you keep score, there is a winner and a loser. I've never heard of someone scoring less points and tying or winning, have you? The result does matter whether it counts toward your record or not, it shows where you are at, at this point. It does not mean that you are going to have a bad season, just that you aren't as good as the team you are playing at that point. Again, that's the whole reason for them, to see how you stack up against the competition. All of that has nothing to do with my post to Stangchain, she was saying that the WOS coaches do not game plan to win a scrimmage, and they don't, but whether they win or lose that scrimmage is important to them.

I'm going with Kville in this one. Last 10 yrs or so Diboll just seems to underachieve.

For WOS, it's offensive tackle, Tim Matherne. All other problems can be fixed, nothing can make him a senior again. He will be missed, dearly.

Dayton by quite a bit unless their kids have been reading to many headlines (or message boards).

When we get everyone healthy, I'm not sure they would need them. I'm pretty sure that they will not be pulled up unless they are going to play.

I agree with you. I am not saying that they are preparing to win a scrimmage, I know they don't watch films and scout the other team. I'm saying that the outcome is important. Not on your record, but on how your team has progressed. If it were just practice then why go thru the trouble of arranging and playing them in all kinds of conditions like we have the last few weeks. If the outcome doesn't matter, then why do it at all? Why risk having players injured? It's because coaches need to see how they stack up against someone else and how they perform against that team matters, it matters a lot.

Yes, the JV and Freshman teams both have been very impressive. I am really impressed with the way they handled Dayton last week, then to see what Dayton's sub varsities did to Lumberton, much hope for the future. As for the JV players. I think they can help, but we will be real tough when we have Cook, Roberts, Arnold and Ruben up front on the varsity. Then Reed and Provost rotating in.

Once again, someone talking about Hooks who has no clue about the man. If WOS loses to Kirbyville, then we lose to a team that was better than us that night. There is no shame in losing to a 2A school, especially one that is one year removed from being 3A. He may be upset, but it will be about the loss, not what classification the team that beat us was in.

Is those players Stephen Cook and Matthew Provost? If so, they are two of the best defenders on the team. YES ONE OF THEM IS STEPHEN COOK, THE OTHER IS JACOBY ROBERTS. MATTHEW PROVOST IS NOT INJURED, JUST NOT GETTING THE PLAYING TIME HE DESERVES IN MY OPINION. KEEP YOUR HEAD UP YOUNG MAN YOUR TIME IS COMING VERY SOON. Well those players being out explains alot. They will be fine when they get back. Provost is an excellent player. I never understood why he wasn't getting alot of playing time. If I'm not mistaken, Provost is #81 and he is on the field most of the time. i think he plays both offense and defense. Another thing, I was very impressed with the Vidor Wing-T. I think it's a perfect offense for their personnell. They will not be 2-8 this year.

I've never seen 36 seniors beat 11 good football players.

They scored 21.

I think a Raider fan in another thread about this scrimmage said that lumbertons "vaunted" defense would be able to get more pressure on the QB than WOS did. Kind of funny, Lumberton makes the playoffs for the first time in history and all of a sudden they are better than a perenial defensive power house, without even seeing the team they are playing! Then they play that team and don't even sniff said QB... AWESOME! :D

Hopefully the team and Coaches will come around. I don't think we have anything to worry about. The offense moved the ball well, just made some mistakes inside the 20. Had 2 TD's called back. The defense played well in the first half. Vidor didn't move the ball that well. In the second half they wore us out and got a couple of late TD's. That wont happen when we have the starters back and in the rotation.

That's funny. You don't become "the team to beat" by proxy. You do it by beating everyone else year in and year out. You become "the team to beat" by, historically, owning the teams around you.