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This game would not be pretty.

WOS vs Dayton... Is the Jasper vs PNG a 4qtr game scrimmage? If so, what time?

Yeah soulja, as much as I hate to say it, the intent here is kind of obvious. :

I don't think anyone is saying that the BC decline is due to not using steroids. I truly believe last year was due to youth. IMO, the results from not using the roids will show years down the line when the consistency of the programs using is no longer there.

I'm not avoiding toes, I assure you. I just think Nederl and will be pretty good this year. I feel like we will be to. It's going to be a good, tough game. I don't think anyone can guarantee anything in this one. I think you should be careful with that "hands down" thing. JMO. I remember a few years back when someone planned a "Victory Celebration" at Sandersons before the game was actually played. That flew like a lead balloon. You don't want to be eating that kind of crow... ;D

quote author=BCparent link=topic=41220.msg409374#msg409374 date=1218616300]wake up and smell the coffee....it is used in EVERY school and the kids will tell you!! My friend, I've been smelling it for a long time. I do, however, smell quite a bit about your post and sure as heck ain't coffee...

Just hope both teams come out of it healthy.

That's true. Didn't I read that they played last year? Maybe this was something that LA did after last year (move the season back a week). At any rate, I would be highly upset if a team up and dropped on me 2 weeks before the season started. I'm surprised that they were able to find someone to play on such short notice.

I can kind of see where Stump is coming from. New coach, new season, new start, new attitude, new logo. Heck, it's worth a try.

Hey Coop, any idea why a team would cancel a game this close to the start of the season? Are they going to cancel the entire season or just this game?

Sometimes a little change is good. Keep it for a couple of years and see if it fits. You can always go back.

I totally agree with you.

The problem with kids winning because of athletes that are bigger and faster at a young age is that the other kids eventually catch up to them physically and often surpass them. That's why success in the jr leagues is no guarantee for success at the highschool level. It will still be a factor in middle school, but not in the upper levels of high school.

I disagree. Exactly what do you disagree with? I disagree that performance enhancing drugs are a problem in every school. I think it's a problem in schools where the kids can afford them, as I said before. Again, there is really no sense in debating it, though. This will all come out in the wash in a few years. From what I've been told, a certain percentage of play off teams will be tested. You will find out who is using and who isn't by those who are busted and those who disappear.

I disagree.

Their have been several teams start out the season 0-2, 0-3 and go on to win state titles. Paris went 0-3 to start the 88 season and went on to beat WOS in the 88 title game.

I agree with you, but I think you are going to see a drop even the way it is. No coach is going to want the blackeye of one of his players getting caught unless they are truly desperate. I think you will see more done by coaching staffs to insure they aren't being used. At least I hope. A coach should know better than anyone if a kid could potentially be taking. They test strength in the offseason. Like someone said earlier, if a kid gains 30 lbs in 3 months and does not gain body fat, something is going on. A coach will see this and should intervene or at least alert the parents of a potential problem. At a minimum, speak to the kid about it. For most, that's all it would take.

It depends on the school. It has much to do with money and the kids being able to afford it. More affluent schools it will be worse than at the less affluent schools. I disagree. If the kids at the less affluent schools can find a way to buy their alcohol, marijuana, crack, etc., surely they can find a way to buy roids. I guess we'll see won't we? We'll see who's kids get busted for it and who's don't. OR who's program goes down the pooper because they aren't doing them anymore out of fear of getting caught. In about 3 years the smoke will begin to clear. When you see some of these perenial playoff teams start to disappear from the radar, you'll know why. Then there will be some who are still right where they always were.

It depends on the school. It has much to do with money and the kids being able to afford it. More affluent schools it will be worse than at the less affluent schools.

I agree, it's got to be Michaels.

Couple that with the coaches who turn a blind eye to it and you have all authority figures for that kid giving the impression that it's OK. What do you expect to happen? I've said for a long time, that I work out with many young guys who've graduated over the last few years who tell me that they used to take steroids. Once they are out, they like to bump those gums. They tell everything. I've heard of MANY local football players by name that were doing them in highschool and this came straight from the guys they were doing them with. I would never repeat any of these kids names, of course, but they are out there, they are bad and they are very close to home.

You would probably know better than we would. I'll be there @ 4:00, though, just to be safe.

Awesome! That's my favorite part of the start of the season.

Hey 1, I saw the guy I told you about yesterday and spoke with him about the copy of the game. He said he may have recorded it, but he isn't sure. He is going to check and let me know the next time I see him. I'll let you know as soon as I see him again (it will be soon).

Is it back on for 4:00pm tomorrow or will it be saturday?