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REL was 6-4 this season, doing all right in 5A-2. No lie, though, transfers out hurt GCCISD athletics BAD and it’s all sports, not just football. I posted the transfer numbers already and those are straight from GCCISD. I’m no District employee and don’t speak for them, GCCISD made all the info I’ve posted public knowledge ahead of the school consolidations and attendance zone changes they’re going to have to get done this coming Summer, but it’s obvious looking at those numbers what’s going on and again, it’s not like Barber’s Hill is the only one who does this. ALL the successful programs draw in kids from surrounding districts and the real Big Dawgs have drawn in a few from a lot further than that over the years. It’s just going to get a bit harder to do that after next season, that’s all.

Nah, I’m sure they’re clean as a Preacher’s sheets and there’s not a one of those 100 GCCISD kids BHISD gets in every year that’s an athlete. I mean, we’ll know for sure past August because UIL is placing one of their own to look over things in any DEC with a lot of transfers and if there’s one thing BHISD has it’s a lot of transfers.

Well, it’s not like they can build a whole team out of recruits,hahaha! Just look at Faith Family for what happens when you push that envelope too far.

You got a LOT more than that, you’ve got Riceland filling up. GCM is dropping down from 23-6A back down to 5A in ‘26. GCCISD is redrawing attendance zones to make sure of that. At the same time, BH was only about 100 students under the 6A threshold last time UIL drew districts so BH is definitely going up to 6A when those maps get redrawn, probably right into the empty spot in 23-6A GCM is leaving when they drop down.

Like I said, even if it’s only 10% of the 100 kids BHISD takes from GCCISD each year, that’s 10 athletes per year and that’s being generous. You’re right about the jobs with BHISD, BTW. There’s more than 1 athlete from Baytown originally who got transferred to BHISD after a job opened up for Mama.

Here’s a link to another story about it [Hidden Content]

It’s behind a paywall but here’s Baytown Sun’s story on it. It was reported on in other papers statewide so if you search by the date I think you’ll find other stories on it. UIL strengthens student transfer rules By Ron McDowell [email protected] Oct 18, 2024 In order to maintain a level playing field for all member schools, the University Interscholastic League strengthened rules regarding transfer student eligibility at its most recent meeting in Austin. Every year thousands of students transfer schools in the state of Texas. A student’s ability to participate in UIL sanctioned activities may be limited base on the reasons for the transfer. A change in family status, work transfers, enrollment in an academic magnet program, or a move across town, receive scrutiny, but only rarely does one of these reasons result in the loss of eligibility. The only reason to automatically cause the loss of participation eligibility is a transfer for athletic purposes. The current rule, which has been in place since 1981, does not require a Previous Athletic Participation Form (PAPFs) to be submitted if the student-athlete does not participate in a varsity level sport during the first year of enrollment. There has been growing concern among some member schools, that other members are breaking the current rule and creating “super teams” with new transfer enrollees, and that the UIL is not doing enough to police, what appear to be, the inordinate number of transfers among high school athletes. To mitigate these concerns, the UIL approved a proposal to expand the power of the State Executive Committee (SEC) and allow it to investigate schools based upon the number of PAPFs submitted. Schools that submit an inordinate number of PAPFs would face heightened scrutiny and possible public reprimand and future sanctions. The UIL has also changed the requirements for PAPF submission, mandating that the form be submitted before a grade 9-12 transfer student may participate at any level of school athletics. This is a marked departure from the current policy which encourages schools not to complete PAPFs for students who transfer in, if the school believes that the student will not play a varsity sport in the first year the student is enrolled at the new school. Some critics of the current system think that the change doesn’t go far enough. Speaking on background, one local school district source suggested that there should be an automatic year wait for transfer students due to the number of loopholes in the waiver process. “If a student transfers, it should be a year out of competition automatically,” the source said. In addition, the UIL also approved a proposal that gives the SEC the power to appoint an independent administrator to oversee the conduct of the local District Executive Committee (DEC) if it is determined that the DEC is not consistently enforcing the rules of the governing body. The change is significant since all appeals that a school brings, starts and usually ends with the DEC. That includes the determination of transfer student eligibility. It is believed that with the implementation of this change, schools in a UIL district will be less likely to face retribution from the DEC chair and other members. The policy changes will go into effect, Aug. 1, 2025 [Hidden Content]

[Hidden Content] Goose Creek CISD Demographic Study.pdf GCCISD paid a firm called PASA to compile this report ahead of them closing/consolidating some schools and redrawing attendance zones.

I don’t know about any rivalry there because I don’t live there but although LP and DP play in different classifications they still have a lot in common. I mean, both beat Barber’s Hill this year!

Well, those numbers aren’t exactly numbers that Districts want to share. I can tell you that during North Shore’s DEC and SEC hearings over recruiting violations earlier this year it was revealed that although they only had 2-3 High School transfers as starters, Program-wide 20-25% of their kids were Jr High transfers and that percentage was even higher amongst their starters, and I’m sure it’s safe to assume similar numbers in any of the big successful programs that draw talent from surrounding districts/schools. Hence the incoming UIL rule changes 8/1/25 concerning transfers between 8th and 9th, change from “no Varsity” to “no participation at all”, and a UIL employee at any DEC meeting involving Districts with lots of transfers.

Which one is which? LP is Open Enrollment and although BH is technically “closed” by GCCISD’s own admission BH has taken twice as many GCCISD transfers than DP, LP, or NS just in this past year. A LOT of these transfers have been happening in Jr High to avoid PAPF/eligibility questions which is why UIL is tightening things up on transfers between 8th and 9th grades starting in Aug plus sending a UIL rep to observe DEC meetings of Districts with high numbers of transfers in/out. Oh, BTW, Lee was 6-4 this year, while RSS was 3-7 and GCM was 0-10. Neither the RSS or GCM results are surprising but REL did well this year.

How many would want to? UIL SEC banned Faith Family girls basketball from postseason play this year, plus UIL SEC isn’t letting any of these kids play Varsity for Faith Family this year, though they can’t prevent them from playing JV for Faith Family because the new rules don’t take effect until Aug 1 2025. As far as the ones transferring from other schools in Texas, they WILL be given 30 days from the date of their appeal hearing to return to their former schools/teams and if they do so they WILL be eligible to play Varsity if their former Coaches want them.

You didn’t see my earlier comment that everyone in Dirty Bay knows it’s better on the Hill and that if we didn’t love y’all we wouldn’t give you any 💩? If you’re from BH then you know that half of MB has Baytown family/friends so yeah, your poor relations back home in Baytown still care for you even though you moved on up to Riceland and think your 💩 don’t stink.

Tell that to GCCISD. They built their Early College High School right next door to a High School with 200 empty desks.

Of course you didn’t have neighbors who moved from Baytown to Plantation. You think there’s anyone from Old Baytown that could afford a house in Plantation? It’s not that MB/BH taxes are low themselves though they are lower than Baytown, it’s that MB/BH/Cove/Old River/Beach City/etc is all in Chambers County and the County taxes are cheaper PLUS the MB taxes are cheaper. In Baytown you’re paying higher than average City taxes AND GCCISD taxes AND Harris County taxes which are all sky high. BHISD taxes ARE on the way up, though they’ve got a ways to go before they’re as onerous as they are in Baytown. Lawyers arguing for years on BHISD’s behalf all the way to the State Supreme Court over a kids haircut don’t work for free, you know? That’s got to be paid for. Luckily for BH, there’s a certain portion of the population that agrees with the policy AND has the money to buy into a master planned community built around the School District willing to spend taxpayer dollars fighting for it. A “Rich Man’s Vidor”, if you will.

Choosing your own nickname is lame AF. Y’all are New Baytown and deep down you know it.

I can’t believe that we’re talking about this BH/BU game like there’s really a chance BH could lose it. BH is ranked #179 right now and BU is #369. Their game last week against PAM was much more evenly matched and it was a close one as you’d expect although they sure screwed up at the end letting the clock run out without kicking a field goal to tie. By the numbers, New Baytown should win this handily, lose badly to Ball, beat Weak Brook, end regular season at 6-4 and 4th place and a game or two in playoffs before getting knocked out. If New Baytown loses to either BU or WB, Coach Abseck’s got some explaining to do…

Unless Coach Abseck lays an egg I don’t see WB beating BH this year so BH ends up 4th and WB 5th. Now, next season if Weak Brook becomes Strong? It could be a real fight between WB and BH over that 4th place spot.

Yeah, down here in the Dirty Bay we all know it’s better up on The Hill! It’s all good. If we didn’t love y’all we wouldn’t give you any 💩!

Here’s the backstory. BH is adjacent to Baytown. For many years was Baytown’s Country Cousin. Folks in BH loved to brag about how great Country living was compared to the Big City but always had a chip on their shoulder about being the smaller, Country, community next to Big Bad Baytown. As Baytown’s School District, GCCISD, has allowed Baytown schools to get worse and worse year over year, more and more Baytonians have moved to Barber’s Hill or used addresses of relatives to send their kids to Barber’s Hill or take jobs with BHISD so their kids can go there. There is a MASSIVE new residential/commercial project going on right now called Riceland. It’s on-par with Kingwood/Woodlands in size and scope and is right smack dab in the middle of Mont Belvieu/Barber’s Hill. Tons of folks are flocking into that and buying $500k+ homes because they want the illusion of Country living and they like Barber’s Hill’s strict School District that’ll spend millions fighting a kid all the way to the State Supreme Court over a haircut. Barber’s Hill enrollment is only 100 or so from the 6A cutoff, they’re growing at a HUGE rate and a lot of it mid-to-high end stuff that is totally alien to the folks who have lived there for generations. Because the tables are turned, BH residents LOVE to thumb their noses at poor ol’ Baytown but when you remind old-timers that Baytown is basically on their border now plus half their residents are folks who moved from Baytown and brought their Baytown ways with them, plus the fact that they’re no longer really Country and just wearing a costume they get REALLY PO’d about it. Hence why “New Baytown” and “New Baytown High” gets them all worked up. Try it, see what happens.

Y’all need to stop ragging on Weak Brook and instead send them all the positive energy that you can so that they can become Strong Brook and beat New Baytown on Nov 8. BTW, for those who don’t know, nothing irritates a Mont Belvieu/Barber’s Hill resident more than calling their town “New Baytown” and their High School “New Baytown High”. I’ve already got an Old Man in my inbox on here mad because I slandered his precious team. Just thought I’d mention it since we’re discussing school nicknames and stuff like that.

I don’t think they’ll be able to duck going into District 23 if GCM drops down. What excuse will they have? What other 6A District is there for them? BH against the Pasadena teams? Besides, Barber’s Hill=New Baytown so with GCM out of District 23 it’s only fitting that BH take their place!

They lost one of those 3 out of district games too, to Deer Park in double overtime. See, it’s not just about BH moving up to 6A, it’s about what 6A District they’re going to go into. GCCISD is redrawing attendance zones this Summer to get GCM back down to 5A when UIL redraws Districts in 2026. That means UIL will have to fill that empty spot and BH is only 15 minutes from GCM so they’d be the obvious choice. Oh yeah, did I mention that the 6A District I’m talking about is District 23? The toughest District in the state? #3 North Shore, #5 Atascocita, #20 Summer Creek, #60 CE King, #150 Kingwood, #160 Humble all in that District. #734 Channelview is the only easy win in that District after GCM drops down. If GCM ends up dropping down and BH goes up it means no more playoffs for BH, they’d be permanent 5th-6th place if that happens UNLESS they find a way to REALLY toughen up. Better to do it now before they make the jump.

It won’t be done until BH Coaching/Admin gets it done which they won’t because they’ve grown complacent and believe their own hype. The fact that the 3 nearest programs to them, (REL/RSS/GCM), aren’t nearly on their level lends to this mentality of BH being the best and if they already believe they’re great why push harder and work out in that hot sun when they’re already great? 20-30 years ago, BH was a country-boy team. Hard-nosed, scrappy, and surrounded by other decent programs so BH always had a chip on their shoulder and something to prove so they’d outwork those other big-city programs. Today? BH becomes more and more high-dollar suburb with each Riceland house sold and all the BH Coaches and players hear all day long is how great they are. Well, if that’s all they ever hear, and they coast into playoffs each year due at least in some part to the schedule they play and quality of their opponents, then there’s no chip on their shoulder. They need to get that chip back on their shoulder. BH keeps low-key signaling that they’re 6A ready, like scheduling all 6A opponents in out-of-district this year. They’re never going to be if they don’t do just like other posters on here are saying and toughen up. Can you imagine what would happen in 2026 when UIL redraws districts again if they dropped GCM down and bumped BH up in GCM’s place? It won’t matter how nice “The Indoor” is or how much they pay their Coach. BH enrollments are already close to the 6A cutoff and if they don’t get right they’ll get humbled in 6A

So why, exactly, did BH not go for the field goal at the end of the game? I know they got down to the 2 and then got sacked twice but did they not have any time outs or did Coach Abseck lose track of the clock or something else happen, or what?