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Agreed, completely. Never said otherwise.

And folks complain about me dragging the thread off-topic! The thread is supposed to be about BH’s former coach moving to Lufkin, then we started talking about BH making shady transfer moves. Of course, the moment anyone says anything negative about BH, here come the BH homers to distract from it by bringing up how much better they are than GCCISD. You realize that every time you reply to me you just prove what I’m saying is true. Folks from BH can’t handle the truth and respond to the truth in the same way, by ignoring it and trying to distract from it. Also, the way you present those stats is a bit misleading. REL has gone 37-33 since they hired Finn and that’s been 7 years ago. REL went 6-4 last season. Take them out of the equation and yeah, RSS/GCM have problems that no one knows how to solve but everyone knows that already including you. Oh, and Barber’s Hill/Mont Belvieu is well on their way to becoming New Baytown. Enjoy those Glory Years while they last because just look at what you’re becoming to see that they don’t last forever.

My teams are Baytown Junior and REL. Both had winning records last year and neither play BH. I can’t imagine the Hell it must be to be a RSS fan. I mean, at least GCM is making some changes so there’s the faintest glimmer of hope but even as screwed up as BH is right now they should still steamroll RSS next season. No reason not to move this over to a BH thread, though, or maybe even start a whole new thread about this transfer!

He doesn’t have to shop his son. His son is a known quantity. If a program wants him with no worries about eligibility, all they’ve got to do is hire Daddy for the season. It’s greasy, for sure, but doesn’t violate the letter of the law. It’s a slippery slope from high on The Hill down into the Dirty Bay and it looks to me like BH are well on their way! Really living up to their “New Baytown” nickname!

The whole thing stinks like a whorehouse at low tide. The kid will have ended up playing for 3 separate teams, (2 non-consecutive seasons at Anahuac), attended 4 separate high schools, and transferred 5 times by the time he gets his diploma. Of course, since these Districts hire Daddy as an assistant coach, the transfers sail right through. I get it, the kid has talent, but for a program and town that’s beaten their neighbors over the heads for years with the claim that they’re superior because they’re “traditional, homegrown, old-school, etc”, it sure is funny to watch them throw all that right out the window now just they’re afraid they can’t beat Lufkin in a football game. SAD!

Doesn’t exactly inspire a lot of confidence, that’s for sure. When’s the last time BH football missed playoffs? How long ago?

Not much else to say about it except what I heard and that’s what I heard. I mean, I wouldn’t out the kid even if I knew his name which I don’t.

What is this, “Opposite Day”? Or are you just trying to get out ahead of folks picking apart each loss next season by accepting said losses in advance? BH still has athletes. They’ve got some talent at QB next season, one young and one a transfer and they look good. Correct me if I’m wrong but even though Abseck was willing to sign off on transfers up until the moment he vacated his AD position I don’t believe many BH kids/parents took him up on it. BH has home field advantage this year, (Lufkin has the long road trip), so while BH is the underdog the only way BH gets blown out is if they completely fall apart in the 1st quarter and can’t recover. If that happens, Abseck will run the score up on them worse than 25+ like he used to against the GCCISD teams. Simper knows all this, and he’s got the whole offseason to get ready for it. If BH gets blown out it’s 100% on Simper and Poole and what a mess that’ll be on The Hill! You know, if BH is really in such bad shape, maybe they ought to schedule REL/GCM in out-of-District play this year. They’d probably have to pay a little money to make it happen but yall got plenty of that. Just a thought. BH couldn’t beat Deer Park last season before their troubles began, so they definitely don’t want to be scheduling any “statement” games in OOD this year.

“Vouchers” themselves have never been put to a statewide vote. I imagine that if it was ever put to a vote, it would never pass. Pro-Voucher folks say that the “Voucher Election” was last Nov when enough Pro-Voucher Republicans were elected as replacements for Anti-Voucher Republicans to get a Voucher Bill passed in the Statehouse. This was achieved by first eliminating most anti-Voucher Republicans through the Primary process. The Senate passed its version last week. The House has signaled that it has the votes to pass its version. There’s gonna be negotiation between the 2 Chambers over what the final Bill that lands on Abbott’s desk is gonna look like but Vouchers in some form are guaranteed to pass into law this year.

No coincidence. There’s VERY rarely a choice that’s universally liked at the outset. I mean, just take Abseck’s name out and place Simper’s name in its place in that paragraph and it reflects the current situation at BH. Simper’s also been busy putting his own mark on BH. I don’t want to get into exactly what the moves are but he’s shaking things up, has his own way of doing things, and at least from what I’ve heard he’s doing differently it seems like they’re all good ideas. We’ll have to see what it looks like on the field but there’s a lot going on and at least right now it all sounds really good. It’ll be interesting to see what opinions are a year from now. Both Lufkin and BH have high expectations for their football programs and both are in the same District. One program is going to end up on top of the other next season. The Coach of the team that comes out on top will have silenced any detractors with that win. The Coach that ends up on bottom is gonna have a harder row to hoe.

Folks have already said that. The reply given is usually something along the lines of “We had primaries and an election last year and TX House members who were against the Vouchers were voted out and replaced by enough new pro-Voucher members to pass the legislation.”. I’d prefer a statewide election myself but I’d also like a winning Powerball ticket and Baytown Lee Football strong enough again to make deep playoff runs year after year.

“School Choice”, “Voucher Program”, whatever folks want to call it. It’s more than just Politics though the subject is sure being used by each “side” to browbeat the “other side”. It’s more than just Local News because it affects the whole State. Don’t know where else to start the thread. TX Senate recently voted to pass their version of the Bill. Yesterday the TX House demonstrated that they have the votes, (barely but they DO have the votes locked in), to pass their version. So it’s gonna happen. Thoughts?

Man, you’re the one who can’t help but stick his foot back in his mouth over and over again replying but never actually refuting anything I’ve said or any info I’ve posted. Now you wanna quibble over the definition of “send” because the facts are what they are and you don’t like them brought up? Whats next, Bill? You gonna argue over what the definition of “is” is? Like I said before, folks. With “friends” like these…

I think they’ve already got a good coach at REL, which is one reason the talent that doesn’t transfer out of the District transfers there. I also think you might actually see GCCISD ram through that high school consolidation in the next few years under the guise of cost-savings. It’s a bit more complicated than that. Remember that GCCISD allows incoming 9th graders/parents to choose their High School campus using the Academies option and GCCISD provides transportation. The football talent that doesn’t transfer out of District transfers to REL. it’s not enough to get beyond reaching 1st round of playoffs every decade or so but for Baytown right now that’s really good. I’m pretty sure that GCCISD would prefer it the other way around but between the best HFC in Baytown, Coach Finn, being at REL and so many other programs poaching the talent out of GCM that’s just the way things have ended up around here. Poor RSS. They’re so hopeless they don’t even get mentioned in conversation. GCM has a pretty rich pool of talent in their attendance zone, but there’s so many other programs with their fingers in the pie that there’s no way to get those kids in the door for 9th grade. You realize the Baytown Chargers Youth Fooball kids play more games per season in North Shore than Baytown? Ever notice GCM’s feeder Jr Schools play Cunningham, etc while the others in town don’t? GCM’s talent/parents are getting looked at and talked to from elementary school on up.

Yeah, I don’t BLAME folks for transferring their kids out either. I simply mention on here that these things happen and there’s folks who just don’t like hearing that. You’re right that it’s a sad situation.

You’re right and you’re wrong. You’re right that there isn’t enough talent in the schools. There IS a lot of talent in the attendance zones, but most of it transfers out. I’m not faulting anyone, just pointing out the facts. ”Voting down Bond proposals”. You think giving GCCISD a Billion dollars is going to solve anything? They’ll just blow it all on shiny toys like they did the last few times we gave them money and then be right back where they are again. “Why won’t anyone run for Board spots?” Well, since there’s nothing anyone can do including Board members to right the ship why run and “win” just to have your name and face attached to the whole thing when it comes crashing down? All I’m doing is pointing out facts. Now, there’s folks who don’t like those facts, folks who love to try to distract from those facts when they get brought up, but no amount of distractions or whataboutisms or yeahbuts are gonna ever change the facts. They are what they are.

Yeah, right, like folks on here can’t read your prior posts. With friends like these… I mean, it’s not like we in Baytown don’t support BH. GCCISD sends BH 100 students a year by way of transfer. That’s twice as many as we send North Shore, Deer Park, and La Porte. I wonder how many of those 100 a year end up in the BH football program? Not just talking about High School transfers either. I’m talking about how many BH players are Jr High transfers out of GCCISD too. Don’t believe me? Read it yourself. [Hidden Content] Goose Creek CISD Demographic Study.pdf

They can’t. They’re broke and can’t pass a Bond.

GCCISD can’t afford to rebuild RSS and it’ll be declared unsafe in 4 years if it isn’t rebuilt, it’s got a LOT of structural problems that were discovered a couple years ago. Voters have rejected the last 2 Bonds put up to a vote, and are in no mood for a 3rd Bond election. GCCISD had to draw millions out of their “rainy day fund” and make a lot of cuts and close/consolidate a couple elementary schools to stay solvent this year and they said at the last Board meeting they’ll have to do all that again next year and the year after will be even worse because they’ll have to start repaying their “rainy day fund” as well. What I’m saying is that there isn’t going to be any 4th High School although they may finally force a consolidation as a way to save money. We’ll have to wait the next couple of years to see if things improve financially for GCCISD or if they have to continue to cut/consolidate in order to stay afloat.

GCCISD has approved at their last Board Meeting the rezoning maps to take effect this Summer. With that said, GCCISD refused to answer when asked at that Board meeting whether this rezoning would be enough to get GCM down to 5A in ‘26. They deferred the question to the AD who spoke later at the meeting, and no one asked him. They DID say, however, that there are some things they can do beyond rezoning like moving programs around that can get those numbers down as well. They also said that even if GCM drops down in ‘26, it’ll be right back up in ‘28 or ‘30 at the latest and unable to drop again because the rezoning is going to fill REL/RSS up so there won’t be any more room to take the excess students out of GCM and they’re going to keep growing with all the new construction out there. Long story short, it looks like they’re probably going to get GCM back down into 9-5A-1 in ‘26 but it’ll only be a 2 year break before they go back up to 6A to stay in ‘28. RSS in 9-5A-1 and REL in 9-5A-2 SHOULD be staying where they are. Barber’s Hill is set to exceed 6A enrollment numbers by next year so most folks figure BH and GCM will switch places, BH moving up to 23-6A and GCM taking their place back down in 9-5A-1 with RSS. None of this spares GCM Football the whooping they’re going to get again this season in 23-6A plus it wouldn’t matter if Nick Saban is their HFC they can’t beat REL in the shape they’re in and probably not RSS either.

Yeah, he’s really gonna need it. He’s a lot like the guy they just fired, no HFC experience, but has worked as an assistant for some successful programs. He was at Summer Creek for a little bit, was OC at REL for a few years, he’s spent the last couple years as an assistant at Aldine Nimitz. His advantage over Ragsdale is that he’s from here, and comes from a family of athletes who all did great things here, so he knows a lot of folks here in town. I heard he was involved in youth coaching around here for a while so he knows a lot of the kids and parents which is something Ragsdale never had. I don’t think it’ll be enough, Ragsdale had assistants that had been studs at REL back in the glory days who knew folks in town and knew the kids and all that and none of that helped at all but it didn’t hurt and now at least it’s the HFC with the local connections. I’ve said this before and will say it again, what the new GCM HFC needs to do is go to the GCCISD Board and demand that they let GCM out of having to play REL/RSS each year. There’s no real rivalry there between the schools, GCM isn’t in the same classification as REL/RSS, and as bad off as GCM is those are 2 guaranteed losses every season. Just say “We’re 6A and play 6A teams, not little 5A teams” schedule 3 horrible HISD teams, beat all 3, and then go into District play at 3-7. Find a way to beat Channelview and end the season 4-6. That’s better than RSS’s 3-7 last season and only 2 wins back from REL’s 6-4. Most folks wont know or care how it was done, it’ll look like a big turnaround. Who am I kidding? They’re not gonna change anything. 1-9 or 0-10 season incoming. I do wish them luck though!

GCCISD just announced their new hire for GCM HFC/AD. “The Goose Creek CISD school board has voted to approve the contract of Jay’Mond Cleveland to be the next Head Football Coach/Athletic Coordinator at Goose Creek Memorial High School. The coach is no stranger to the district. He is a 2003 Lee High School graduate and a former Ganders offensive coordinator under head coach Tim Finn. Cleveland left the school district after the 2021-2022 school year and took a position at Summer Creek High School. He has spent the last two seasons at Nimitz High School. More than 60 candidates applied for the Goose Creek Memorial opening. The applicant pool was whittled down to a top 10 list, then to four, second round candidates and finally to two, in the third and final round. Cleveland will be the fifth head coach since the school opened in the 2008, taking over for Daniel Ragsdale. Ragsdale was 2-28 in his three years at the helm of Patriots football, winless this last season. Cleveland will be tasked with guiding the school district’s only Class 6A athletics program as well as its football team.”

Agreed on all of that. He wants to be a HFC one day and that can't happen without moving up to a higher position so it is what it is. Westfield benefits from his talent and his name. Ganders will be alright, BTW. I'm pretty sure this has been in the works for a while and Coach Finn has had some time to get a new man in there, plus with REL in 5A for eternity it's not like they'll ever have to see Coach Hurts from across the field so its all good..

Well, I guess I spoke a little soon. Averion Hurts Jr just tweeted out that he’s taken an OC job at Westfield HS.

You’ve got to remember we’re talking about GCCISD here. When’s the last time GCCISD made a good decision? I can’t think of a single one since they hired Coach Finn on for REL and that’s been going on 8 years now. You really think they’d be that smart?