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5-5 is more like it with BH replacing GCM in 23-6A after next school year IF BH chooses their out-of-District opponents better than they did this last season. They’ll get blown out by North Shore, Atascocita, Summer Creek, lose to Kingwood and CE King, and win against Humble and Channelview plus 3 tomato cans in Out of District and that gets them to 5-5 6th in District year after year after year but no better than that. Lot of folks with locs on those Eastside teams really looking forward to playing Barbers Hill. Coach Abseck might not be able to see it right now but in the long run Supt. Poole may have done him a favor.

Nothing says “winning culture” like firing the HFC because he wouldn’t give the Supt’s son playing time Junior didn’t earn.

GCCISD couldn’t consolidate now even if they wanted to. They’re flat broke, last 2 bond elections failed. They don’t have the money to repair the foundation at RSS. They’re a total mess. Ive heard a couple people describe the GCM job just like you did, as a get your feet wet” job. Is that really accurate? I mean, GCM is a guaranteed loser. Ragsdale got moved to a District desk job I’m guessing until the end of the semester or until he’s found a new job, whichever comes first. What kind of school is going to hire a football coach with a 2-28 record over 3 years? GCM isn’t getting any better anytime soon, either. They’re in 23-6A one more year so that means 0-10, then they’ll drop back to 9-5A-1 and be 1-9 like they were their last 3 years there, so their new Coach is going to end up 2-28 over 3 years just like Ragsdale.

Oh yeah, for sure. Those “Competitive Leagues” sure weren’t gonna be free. Every School Coach I’ve ever talked to told me they want multi-sport athletes. Said they prefer multi-sport athletes for all the reason mentioned above about better overall health and development and also simply because it allows them to maintain a full roster in all sports. I’ve met more than one parent, on the other hand, who were convinced that their child had to play one sport year round and also play Club league rather than School Ball. For example, Mom&Dad have had Jr playing soccer since he was 5. Soccer is ALL he plays. When he gets to 7th Grade the parents want him only playing soccer in Jr High and nothing else, ESPECIALLY football because it’s “so dangerous”. Coaches tell the parent that to be on the Soccer team Jr has to be in Athletic period each day at School and part of that class is playing/practicing/learning whatever sport is in season then and in the Fall that’s football. Parent gets pissed, end up not putting the kid in Athletics in Jr High, and there’s one less talented kid in Athletics. Stupid but I just saw this very thing play out recently with kids my kids know and their parents.

It’s everything mentioned and more. Here’s another one. Kids playing one sport and one sport only year-round. 2 different sports my kid played in youth league, the coaches told me that for him to “move to the next level” he’d have to play/practice/train for that sport year-round. In both instances I told those coaches we couldn’t do that because my son had football. Both told me that they wanted him for their “Competitive” leagues but if he wasn’t ready to commit to year-round and give up football then he’d have to stay in Rec league until he aged out. My son was like 9-10 years old BTW. There’s kids that get locked into soccer or baseball or whatever at 7/8/9 years old and that’s ALL they play. Coaches/Parents are convinced that’s the way to go which I totally disagree with but whatever. There’s a lot of kids that could be great multi-sport athletes with one of those sports being football but can’t because mom/dad/trainer/coach are convinced that Jr’s only chance at a scholly to a D1 school is playing baseball year-round for the next decade.

It’s still a pretty severe mismatch. RSS and GCM are both total messes. Remember that GCM was 1-9 the season before Coach Ragsdale was hired and he went 2-28 over 3 years before he got fired last week. RSS is 15-45 since Coach Toomer was hired and they went 3-7 this year same as the last and were last in District this year only because GCM is no longer in-District with them to take that last place spot. Compare that to Coach Finn’s record of 37-33 at REL since he was hired and until this last season REL/RSS/GCM were all in the same district. I was at both the REL/RSS and REL/GCM games this season and in both Coach Finn went easy on them late in the game when the outcome was no longer in doubt. The RSS game was a better one than the GCM game but neither were really as competitive as the box score would have one believe. I get trying to go easy on RSS/GCM, BTW, and I get you trying to be fair to them. No one I know likes seeing them down so bad.

You know REL has the 5A-2 State Champ Richmond Randle in-District, right? Plus Iowa Colony and Fort Bend Marshall AND Texas City to fight with over 4th place? Not exactly an “easy” District. Where they’ve been the last half-decade, BTW, is a LOT better than RSS or GCM, regardless of schedule. REL has beaten both handily the last 5 years straight. Agreed with everything else you said, though, and I’ll add they’ve got some good kids coming up in their feeder Jr schools as well who are staying right where they are. Looking at the prospective GCCISD rezoning maps it looks like both possible outcomes are going to be kind to REL as well. Things are looking up over on Market St, especially with a HC who knows what he’s doing. At the start of this season it was decided that 9-5A-2 wouldn’t be covered here. I hope that next year the folks in charge decide otherwise. It’s gonna be interesting…

REL finished their first season in 9-5A-2 with 6 wins and 4 losses. 5th in District. Sterling finished their season in 9-5A-1 with 3 wins and 7 losses, last place in District. GCM finished their first season in 23-6A with 0 wins and 10 losses. Last place in District and GCM HFC Daniel Ragsdale was fired after the end of the season.

And now they’re looking for a 5th. Ragsdale got fired a couple days ago. He lasted 3 years and his record at GCM is 2-28

Correction: they all WERE. Coach Daniel Ragsdale, formerly of NS, just got fired from his job as GCM HFC

Best of luck to whoever takes that job because they’re damn sure gonna need it.

UIL changed that too. Ineligible for ALL UIL participation/activities for 1 calendar year. No Summer Strength@Conditioning, no Frosh Ball, no other sports, nothing but the regular old PE Class for 1 calendar year and that’s 8th grade transfers on up. Starts Aug 1 2025 so still business as usual with transfers until then but after that it’s gonna get harder

Take a look at this chart. It shows how many kids per year transfer outside of the District WHILE LIVING IN GCCISD DISTRICT. They reside within GCCISD, but attend school outside of it. These numbers are straight from TEA. “TEA maintains data on students living in Goose Creek CISD who attend other public schools”, So we’re not even talking about kids whose families move or who use MeeMaw’s address. That’s 100+ per year who still live in GCCISD and hitch a ride out to BHISD and back each day. A lot of cars in that car rider line out of Baytown. You think at least 10% of them aren’t athletes? Maybe more like 20%? C’mon, man, it’s plain to see and like I’ve been telling other folks ALL the successful programs do it. It’s just gonna get a LITTLE harder to do it after 8/1/25, that’s all. Won’t stop it, might not even slow it down much, but it’s gonna affect things a bit.

BHISD isn’t all Riceland, there’s plenty of cheaper houses, trailer parks, RV Parks, etc and I hear there’s Apartment Complexes going in soon. Also, you don’t even have to move there as long as you’ve got a MeeMaw or Auntie in BHISD zone, you just sign an affidavit that your kid is living with MeeMaw or Auntie and they’re in. Don’t take my word for it, I already posted GCCISDs numbers showing twice as many GCCISD kids are transferring to BHISD than to the other surrounding Districts, 100+ per year. If only 10% of those are for athletic purposes that’s 10 athletes a year minimum and I’m willing to bet it’s a little higher. What’s also true and the point I was trying to make there is that as Riceland fills up it’s definitely going to change BHISD. Those homes start at $500k and run up past $1M. Gonna be a lot less “Country” and a lot more White Collar.

Thanks!

Truth hurts, don’t it? Like I said, anyone who wants to can do a little digging online and see exactly what programs GCCISD 8th grade athlete standouts end up at.

It’ll make it a little harder because then they’d be transferring in younger kids. Transferring 7th graders means you’re getting a lot of kids that aren’t through puberty yet. Doesn’t mean parents won’t do it but Coaches might not be as receptive to the whole idea. I think you will see an uptick in younger transfers though, after 8/1/25 GCM’s coach isn’t going anywhere. He’s a former North Shore assistant coach and there’s another former North Shore assistant coach as GCCISD District AD. They’re tight so Coach Ragsdale has job security. You really want him to put the kid on blast like that? It’s easy to figure out if you don’t mind digging a little. Rosters are online.

Told ya! That’s how it goes!

That’s still a .500 season which I’m sure you’ll agree considering the state of GCCISD athletics is pretty good. I’ll take .500 all day long over 2-7 which is RSS’ this year minus their win against GCM and of course GCM went 0-10. Yessir, I’m proud of them going .500 the way things are now.

Im not saying that at all. You keep putting words in my mouth. I’m sure transfers help some but even with 20% transfers the team is still 80% homegrown and it could be as low as 10% for all I know. It’s a fact, though. It happens everywhere. UIL wouldn’t be changing the rules if it wasn’t happening everywhere. I think you’re right about an uptick in transfers but instead of Spring semester I think it’ll be right at the end of the School Year. That way they finish up at their old school but get to attend Summer Strength & Conditioning at their new school before 9th grade starts. It’ll be real interesting if GCCISD will release the transfer numbers from now until Aug 1 to see if transfers to BH increased from the 100 transfers this past school year.

REL actually improved this year to 6-4 which was remarkable because like you said, they had a lot of injuries and their bench was thin before that. It’s crazy how the smallest of the 3 GCCISD High Schools finds a way to at least field a team that can hold their own but you’re right that coaching is one aspect of it. Not that they’re a top 150 team or even close to it but if they’d lost a couple less guys there’s a real chance they could have beat Texas City and gone to at least the 1st round of playoffs this year which for GCCISD football might as well be State for how hard it is for them. You’re spot-on about GCM and RSS coaches. GCM coach is 2-28 over 3 years and RSS coach is 15-45 over 6. Hard to get kids to participate in what they know from the outset is a losing proposition. I watched the GCM/NS Game. I was worried someone would get hurt, felt sick. All 22 of NS starters are high level D1 Commits, QB is 19 years old, and GCM lined up a bunch of Sophomores against them, kids that aren’t even old enough to drive. I know GCCISD wouldn’t ever do it but they really ought to stop insisting that the 3 High Schools play each other for their first 2 out of conference games. At least let GCM out of it. All 3 schools are in different Classifications so the wins don’t matter except for bragging rights around town and with REL winning both those games every season all it does is kill morale before the first District game is even played. Let GCM schedule some OOC games on their level like Houston Sterling/Sam Houston/Chavez for their first 3. That way there’s a good chance even if they lose every District game they could end up 3-7 and if they beat Channelview 4-6. GCM having to lose to RSS and REL to start their season every year is just a killer. You want to know why all the talent at EF Green Jr doesn’t show up at GCM? Because that talent transfers to North Shore after 8th grade is done. Straight-up. They don’t care if you know either. Those kids moms get on Facebook and brag about it. Of course, most of those kids end up so far back on the depth chart that by Sophomore year they want to transfer back just so they can get to play at all but then you run into the eligibility thing. Anyway, sorry for the off-topic tangent, this is a BH thread.

You’re the one talking about Elementary school kids. What I’m saying is that there are kids who play Jr School ball in GCCISD and then transfer into BHISD/GPISD/LPISD/DPISD between 8th and 9th. Doing so means no PAPF/eligibility questionnaire and they get to play Freshman/JV, work out with the team, etc. and look homegrown because they transferred before freshman year. it’s a loophole. All the big programs do it. That’s why the UIL rules changes, to close up the 8th-to-9th transfer portal, and it isn’t even taking effect until Aug 1 2025 so you’ll see these transfers this summer. Also, as far as BHISD being closed instead of open, just look at the GCCISD transfer numbers I posted. GCCISD loses twice as many kids to BHISD per year, the “closed” district, than they do to the open Districts in the area. Anyone who lives here knows folks who’ve used MeeMaw’s address to get their kids in there. It is what it is and if it wasn’t, UIL wouldn’t be changing those rules and sending one of their own to the DECs now would they? Go ask Coach Abseck how many kids in his program are 8th Grade transfers. We know that at North Shore that number is at least 20% because of the numbers they had to provide UIL during their recruiting investigation. I’ll bet BHISD’s numbers are AT LEAST that. Again, THEY ALL DO IT.

REL was 6-4 this season, doing all right in 5A-2. No lie, though, transfers out hurt GCCISD athletics BAD and it’s all sports, not just football. I posted the transfer numbers already and those are straight from GCCISD. I’m no District employee and don’t speak for them, GCCISD made all the info I’ve posted public knowledge ahead of the school consolidations and attendance zone changes they’re going to have to get done this coming Summer, but it’s obvious looking at those numbers what’s going on and again, it’s not like Barber’s Hill is the only one who does this. ALL the successful programs draw in kids from surrounding districts and the real Big Dawgs have drawn in a few from a lot further than that over the years. It’s just going to get a bit harder to do that after next season, that’s all.

Nah, I’m sure they’re clean as a Preacher’s sheets and there’s not a one of those 100 GCCISD kids BHISD gets in every year that’s an athlete. I mean, we’ll know for sure past August because UIL is placing one of their own to look over things in any DEC with a lot of transfers and if there’s one thing BHISD has it’s a lot of transfers.

Well, it’s not like they can build a whole team out of recruits,hahaha! Just look at Faith Family for what happens when you push that envelope too far.