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I hope that is true. Maybe everyone had a bad day at the same time.

According to news reports and comments (neither of which means anything), he was supposedly there when the fire department arrived, then left possibly with a relative. The sheriff department had to get a search warrant to search for the property because consent could not be obtained since Thomas hasn’t been seen since. Assuming that is true, it is strange. I say “assuming” and “according to news” because rumors take on a life of their own. “I heard” when it is retold becomes, “this absolutely happened”. An example is someone reading this comment by me and then saying, Thomas left immediately upon the fire department arriving. No, I heard that but it might be completely false. Maybe he didn’t leave. Maybe he was never there and someone speculated that he might have left and when it was retold…… it becomes a “fact” that he was there and left (or worse, fled) the scene.

They were in no particular order. Some serious improvement is needed in most aspects of the game. On occasion a flash of brilliance might be seen such as a great open field tackle or stuffing the line on defense and shutting down a run. Then back to sloppy play. But yes, I don’t remember seeing so many dropped passes.

Nederland has had a dedicated radio station probably since the entry 19060s. For many years at least, it has been on KLVI.

To say that he is getting blistered on Facebook would be an understatement.

A scrimmage is a glorified practice. It is supposed to allow the coach to try doing things, look at players and especially look for bright spots. These were the bright spots for Nederland: 1. These are the issues I noticed: 1. Tackling 2. Catching the ball. 3. Passing 4. Rushing 5. Blocking

Yes.

She should have been criminally charged in the same incident.

The Nederland schedule shows a scrimmage tomorrow with HF at home for 5:00/6:15. Is 5:00 the JV scrimmage?

The case I mentioned with all the media was from some kind of tip or clue. In this area alone there might be miles of waterways to search and it could turn up nothing. In the cases like in PA where the two cars were found with bodies, there will likely be no criminal charges so potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not into millions) would be spent to only “possibly” (assuming any results) buy some closure for a family. I am not minimizing that relief it would be. I wish there was a cost effective way to start systematically clearing areas. Maybe have a regional team like Jefferson, Hardin and Orange Counties with the many cities all putting in money and get some task force to start searching. It could be a location a day. I mean having a dedicated team trained in the technology and purchase of the equipment. Heck, there is probably grant money. The biggest problem would be finding someone to get the ball rolling with the research into the cost of the equipment, training, number of personnel needed, etc.

About 15 years ago Texas Equusearch (I think) was searching the canal along Hwy 82 for a specific vehicle and I think they found others but not the one they were looking for. For some reason there was a lot of news media out there but I don’t remember the case. I remember the search because I stopped there briefly to watch the show and ended up talking to the media (in what I thought was a casual conversation). Unfortunately they used me for a spokesman and quoted me in the newspaper after I answered a typically stupid media question with an intentionally stupid answer. That was a lesson learned. You are never off the record with the media. I remember several other cases where vehicles were found immediately that were submerged because someone witnessed the accident (or intentional act like a person getting rid of a stolen vehicle or trying to collect insurance money) or came upon the scene at night and saw the lights/taillights glowing under water before the battery went out. Any of those would have been missing had it not been for witnesses. It would be safe to say that hundreds (if not thousands) of missing vehicles and people could be found nationwide if waterways were searched. How much resources are going to be spent and who is going to spend it? Also, it would not take dive teams to do an extremely time consuming and labor intensive job. There is plenty of underwater drones with search capable sonar and cameras. I have seen one locally owned by a private company and it has been hired locally by agencies for specific tasks. I think that I have photos of it on my phone. Again however, who is going to pay? I think a good unit might run into hundreds of thousands of dollars.

My team came out on top but it was a back and forth thriller. It was one of those games as they say, it was a shame that one team had to lose.

Don’t confuse a majority Black campus by population with a historically Black school. For a history lesson, it goes back to a Supreme Court ruling 130 years ago in Plessy v. Ferguson. In that ruling the Supreme Court said that concept of “separate but equal” was not in itself discrimination and so state mandated segregation of the races was not unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment. (passed in 1868, right after the Civil War) So some states allowed or mandated separate schools for Blacks. Those separate schools were because Blacks weren’t allowed in other schools. That was the legality of the then historical Black schools. My mother graduated from Beaumont High School which was a (one of the) White campus in BISD and it later merged with Charlton-Pollard also of BISD, the historical Black school for that district. That created BCP. BCP then later combined with the other BISD high school, French, to form Central. (French was for a short time in FISD) So what was eventually Central high school was the combination of the two White high schools of BISD and the Black high school. So French ISD was taken into Beaumont ISD which was later taken into South Park ISD to form today’s BISD which started as 3 different districts. I believe that is the meaning of a historical Black school. It was a school created by forced segregation. That was overturned 62 years later by the Supreme Court case of Brown v. Board of Education, although I think it took the Civil Rights of 1964 to start enforcing it.

Maybe I am missing the question. Is the OP talking about a traditional home stadium that happens to be away from the high school campus or a borrowed stadium? After Hurricane Rita, Mid-County Madness was held in Pasadena. No, it didn’t feel like being in Bulldog Stadium. By the way, that was a game for the ages. A 5 minutes bus ride from the current campus to the stadium does.

What is a historical Black high school in reference to this thread? In my opinion those were high schools for Black students because they were not allowed in White schools. I believe that most or probably all of them for sports played in the Prairie View Interscholastic League because like the high schools, Black high schools were not allowed in the current UIL. These schools no longer exist and any reference to them as a throw-back honor would truly be for a “former” historical Black high school. In Jefferson County I can think of three school districts with historical Black high schools but maybe there were others. Those were PAISD Lincoln, BISD Charlton Pollard (not to be confused with BCP) and SPISD Hebert. Hebert Panthers (Blue/Gold?) Charlton-Pollard Bulldogs (Blue/White?) Lincoln Bumblebees (Purple/Gold) Any others?

That was not a historical Black high school.

….. which is all explained in the song, Third Rock From The Sun.

That was certainly possible but…… We will never know the “what if” answer? Would Neumann have applied a year earlier? Did he think it was time in his career? Even if so, would other candidates have applied year earlier that would have been more attractive? Was the school board the same? I think it was an old Japanese proverb, “When a butterfly flaps it wings….”.

I believe the human body builds tolerances to almost everything. EDIT: tpyo bills to builds. Voice recognition almost got it….

The super secret but apparently everyone knows about it missile was probably inspired by a bow hunter. [Hidden Content]

Yep, I think that is what I said and understood in the sections that I listened to. And the no playoffs, if I heard correctly, is not a penalty but a rule (like I think you said earlier). A school can’t make the playoffs in a lower classification and for this year, they are stuck in that lower classification because it was too late (like you said earlier). I was reading another sports forum where a few people were angry with the UIL, it was some underhanded dealings toward Alto, they were cheating the kids and blah blah. I don’t think so. It was unfortunate but the UIL didn’t do anything wrong toward Alto.

Timing!! If Nederland wouldn’t have held onto August for another year, they would likely have never interviewed a coach name Larry Neumann. I think it worked out in the long run…..

That is what I kind of understood and it was brought up in part of the hearing that I listened to. The UIL in the hearing said that the coaches knew back in December what district they would be in. I didn’t listen to the entire hearing but I am reasonably certain that the UIL committee didn’t get the case until early August or over 7 months after the mistake was made Also from what I understood, the UIL didn’t punish Alto except to put them on (I think) 3 years of probation. The chairman said in the meeting, probation is pretty much, we will have our eye on you for 3 years to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Alto was caught up in a severely limited time frame leaving almost no option for this year. I didn’t hear where Alto was accused of intentionally falsifying the numbers. In fact if that could be proven, it is likely a felony. The UIL drew an attendance line for divisions and Alto by their own mistake fell on the wrong side of the line. Someone needs to listen to the entire 70 minute hearing and report back….. 😀

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I listened to most of the UIL meeting online. This if what I got from the meeting and action. 1. Alto was represented and under oath admitted the violation whether intentional or accident. It happened. 2. The UIL did not ban nor take a vote ban Alto. The ban is an automatic rules violation and UIL rules are that a school is not eligible for post season or honors if placed in a lower division by falsifying the numbers (again, intentional or otherwise). 3. Alto suggested simply changing to the correct 2A Div 1 where they were supposed to be. THAT is what seems like the main discussion focused on after the investigation phase. Okay, they messed up but do you punish the students? What is the relief? 4. The UIL committee voted unanimously that there simply was no time. If I understood what was being said in the meeting, the UIL committee had no authority to change the realignment. Alto could technically change districts however scrimmages start this coming Friday (realistically with no effect on the district) but the regular season in a couple of weeks. There is no time for two districts to throw out there schedules and start over. The false numbers were reported this month so the UIL was up against a severe time constraint. Basically it was, sorry Alto but this was turned in to late to correct. 5. Alto is not banned from post season next year but by the same rule, Alto is not allowed to compete in the lower division. You can’t have a 2A Div 1 school potentially winning the 2A Div 2 district they are currently in or even state championship. Can we imagine… The new 2A Div 2 state champion is, 2A Div 1 Alto!!! 🤣 6. Alto will be allowed to compete in 2A Div 1 next year however…… Alto has to find any district in their region that will accept them. If they do, then each member school from the district committees in BOTH districts must unanimously accept releasing Alto from their current district and being accepted into the new district. So any school from either district has essentially veto power and again, this was not a vote but a UIL rule. We know locally those district committees have life and death authority over rules violations locally. Was it Nederland a few years ago who had to forfeit a district game because of an ineligible transfer player and it took them out of the playoffs? If I remember correctly, paperwork for the transfer was submitted and like Alto, intentional or not, the district committee gets to make the call. They voted for the forfeiture. To make it short, the UIL did not vote to ban Alto, UIL rules did that automatically. You can’t play and qualify in a lower division due to the mistake. Alto has the option of correcting it next year but they have to find a district to accept them and then both districts will have to unanimously accept the change.