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[Hidden Content] Mass murder, not suicide except the guy that did it.

I have no clue as to the sequence of events but what training are you suggesting that they forgot?

I would think that legal immigrants are vetted before entry is allowed but don’t know. The majority is probably not people who applied, filled out their application and waited in line.

They are far from minimum wage, just sayin’….. At one time government workers were thought to get less pay but better benefits so it was a trade off. Now it might be pay and benefits.

My favorite overpriced sporting goods store is/was (?) in Uvalde… Oasis Outback.

No, it’s the two amendments that most seem threatened. How much of an issue is the right to privacy in your home and entry has to be with your consent or a warrant signed by a magistrate, the right to an attorney or the right not to give a statement? To try to claim otherwise is a straw man argument.

I had mentioned this previously. What is the deadliest school attack in United States history? It was almost 100 years ago, in 1927. How many firearms were used? None. A 55 year old man lost a school board election and was angry at the world. He used dynamite and killed 38 children at school. He sat back and waited until rescuers rushed in to help, then he drove a pick up truck loaded with dynamite into the people and detonated that, killing and injuring more. Counting the perpetrator who committed suicide in the explosion, there are 48 dead and 53 injured. It is 101 casualties at a school where no firearms were used. That was in Bath, Michigan. How do you stop an attacker who can choose his target and has time to plan? About three years ago I asked some high school students about the same thing because of another similar incident at the time. What happens at the local high school if they put a policeman at every door or where entry is allowed with a metal detector? Would that stop an incident? Can we lock the school down and make sure no one gets in with a weapon? Sure!!! Okay, would that stop a shooting at the school? Certainly!! So I asked them, in this lockdown and safe school what happens when the final bell rings? The answer was that within about two or three minutes, 1900 students pour out of the school. Of those, about 500 gather at the bus stop. So for my next scenario, I have a semi-automatic rifle with plenty of ammo and a suppressor. If I am 100 yards away concealed, how many children can I shoot before they even realize what is happening? Dozens? Which way would they run not knowing where the shots are coming from? This has already happened in 1998 in what was the second deadliest school shooting in US history before Columbine a year later. In Arkansas and 11--year-olds and a 13-year-old child took some weapons and waited for a fire drill at school. They were small and not nearly prepared but they shot 15 people and I believe five of them died. Because they were too young to be sentenced as adults, they stayed in prison until they were 21 and released. I believe one is alive today and one was killed in a car crash about 15 years ago. Of course they did not have suppressed weapons and we’re not shooting into a crowd of kids at a bus stop. I could go further, a lot further but do you get the point? And to be sure I am not against safety measures. You might as well make it at least tough and have someone put some thought process into it rather than on a whim, walking into a school and start shooting. You cannot stop a dedicated attacker however. How much money and circumstances are you willing to spend to save that single life? We could pass a federal law requiring governors on all vehicles to restrict speed to 45 miles an hour and we would reduce highway deaths by about 30,000 people a year. How much money should we spend annually to save 30,000 people?

The “one life saved” is a bogus premise.

No different.

I went back and edited it a couple of minutes after I posted the comment. It was supposed to say I completely agree with arming the teachers. The predicted text feature added “can’t”.

I completely agree with armed teachers if they are willing. But….. Twenty armed police on campus can’t stop a person that has time to plan. It was not an elementary school but the deadliest school shooting in US history (not the most in a mass murder which was not with firearms) was Virginia Tech. They had their own police department which responded within moments. The attacker, since he had time to plan, eliminated the threat of the police for long enough to do his killing. The fix was about $5 worth of chain and a padlock. And what weapons? AR15? AK47? No, a .22 pistol and a 9mm with the.22 being little more than a tiny bullet generally used to target practice. Harden the schools, arm the teachers but realize you cannot stop a dedicated attacker who can choose the time, location, means, etc. Unless you take away all guns, you cannot stop shootings, period. Even if you could, you couldn’t stop a mass murder, only the means.

I doubt any at the point of attack but it depends on definitions or expectations.

Given time to plan, pick a target including the means to carry it out, how do you stop an attack? I’ll wait..

There is no compromise in my opinion. It certainly isn’t a gun problem. You could attempt to completely confiscate all guns but then the 2A goes out the window. A person or two could kill or maim 100 children in a couple of minutes having never possessed a firearm. We have created a society that is now allowed to create such people. Can you ever put crap back in the horse once it’s out? Crazy people have always been around. Just look at 1927, almost 100 years ago, as an example. The difference is not that it could or hasn’t happened in the past but we have taken the reins off the horse and let him go free.

Yes, not putting the live shooter up but the world to see.

For “at least” 2.5 years…..

Unfortunately anyone can “suggest” a law. This one is DOA.

For all intents and purposes (often butchered as intensive purposes ) there is no border.

There are conflicting reports but it appears as though at least 14 students and maybe others are dead at a Uvalde elementary school. [Hidden Content]

I have been getting some fairly clever scams. I got an email last week for what appeared to be an official UPS website. It said they have a package of mine and they knew it was not to my address so click the link to confirm. If they know it is not my address, why don’t they just delivered to my house? I have an online account with them like many people and anytime I order from Amazon or some other company, I always get updates from that company. L Other texts and emails are similar saying that my order was messed up and I need to click on a link to correct it. Problem is that I have no account with some of those companies. I guess if you send 10,000 spam emails to people that appear to be from Walmart, UPS, Kohl’s, Amazon (about 75% of the public?), etc., you will certainly hit a few people that actually have those accounts.

There are always crazy views from someone. It doesn’t matter what someone thinks. It matters what they can legally do or have support for. Griswald makes it pretty clear that SCOTUS doesn’t have an issue with contraceptives. That is purely a private medical decision. Abortion is not as if can kill another human. That isn’t a religious opinion but a law opinion. There will always be kooks out there with some running for office. The Constitution keeps them in line. There is no support from Republicans for banning contraceptives. I am not talking of individuals but support from the party. For those that see overturning Roe/Casey (if it happens) as freedom to do practically anything, they haven’t been paying attention in class…..

I know there are hot button issues for people and I have mine. Mine starts with the Second Amendment. I don’t want to compromise on that. But abortion? For one it is not a listed constitutional right. Secondly it is a human life and thirdly there are so many to stop it beforehand from the Plan B pill to birth control. I can’t imagine how many Democrats or moderates are watching this whole institution fall apart in front of their eyes, having never had to make a decision on abortion and likely will not have to.

Bored so I will try to answer. For those aforementioned, if you were leaning toward voting for the conservative candidate this time due to…. supply chain issues, an incompetent president, runaway inflation, all time high gasoline prices, longest downturn in the Dow Jones since 2001 (or 1923) depending on last week), leaving American troops and civilians to be abandoned and some murdered, giving up a strategic Air Force base, leaving billions of dollars of high tech military equipment to terrorists and so on…. does this potential Supreme Court ruling change your mind or in the previous short version, does some living babies trump all that?

Before the world went woke….

Maybe he was truly offended by it. Maybe the guy that said it had no ill intent and did not know it would wrongly received. Maybe the guy that received it took it the wrong way and it was meant as a compliment. I know that if you’re looking to be offended, you will be offended whether it was intended or not. I was complained on one time as a police officer because I told a minority woman she was admirable. I was immediately called in and told my exact words. Her son had been assaulted by a couple of bullies after school. I asked if he did anything to get away or fight back in self-defense and the child’s mother said she does not allow him to use violence even in self-defense. I said that while I thought it was admirable the way she was raising her son, maybe at the very least she could teach him to get away and not just absorb the beating. I did make the police report for the investigation. I had not been gone a couple of minutes when I was called in for the investigation on me.I was complained on because I was concerned about her son’s welfare but said it was admirable that she was teaching her son not to be violent. I would not be shocked that 20 years later she is probably still telling the story about how a white officer was abusive to her and a racist. If you were looking for a reason to be angry, you probably will be. There are obviously plenty of reasons to be angry with someone but if you walk around with a chip on your shoulder, “how are you doing” might be offensive.