tvc184

I thought of the same thing about the Katy, TX teacher in the news wanting the junior high school students to say that God was a myth or fail a test. Atheism is as much a constitutional right as Christianity. The teacher is wrong for making passing or failing a test based on such a statement but when you allow teachers to make belief or disbelief in a religion part of class, that knife cuts both ways.

Some of the problem is that no amount of force looks good. There is simply no way you can use force even when completely lawful and have it look good. I have seen many cases where the officer clearly was lawful in his actions but it looks and sounds terrible. From the comments I see you would think the law says it has to be a fair fight to take someone into custody or that an officer must suffer some kind of injury before any force can be justified. That is just plain stupid. It is very hard to convict officers of abuse both in state and federal court because the law is in favor of the officers using force (as I am sure that you know) as it has to be. Look at SCOTUS rulings and time after time to protect officers, we have votes like 9-0, 8-1 or 7-2 in using force or detentions. The laws and court rulings say that you have to comply with officers in most circumstances and you cannot even resist an unlawful arrest. For some reason, especially lately, we see a rash of non-compliance and it seems to be centered around a segment of the population. I sure seems from what I have seen that the message has gotten out that if an officer even speaks you a person then the officer is somehow violating the law or someone's rights. It is like people feel emboldened to break the law or resist even lawful uses of force. I feel like this trend will not end anytime soon. About 99% of the problem can be ended if somehow you can get the word out that compliance with an officer's commands is generally required and any resistance might open up the person to a lawful use of force against him. Instead we have people that are spitting out nonsense and people believing that if they get arrested, they have the chance to visit the White House.

The blanket support sure isn't in favor of the police at the moment.

Back to the actual topic, it obviously looks like more force was used than necessary. I don't see how he justifies it. He didn't really hurt her and the news reports use such words as a "beat down". The officer probably could have killed her easily if he wished and he just tossed her around. Due to his size and strength she looked like a rag doll and therein lies the problem. I think the officer likely had a lawful authority to put his hands on the student, maybe arrest her (according to the laws in that state), and use necessary force. He is in trouble because that force went above "necessary". But in cases like this you have people like Nancy Grace (who hates more of the world and all men). I was at my mother's house tonight and she unfortunately had CNN on and Grace was spitting out her man hater gibberish. She said something like, "The only classroom disruption that this girl was involved in was being the victim of a police beat down". Really Nancy? You saw what happened in that classroom before the video started or is it that as a lawyer you know that you are spitting out nonsense but your ratings are dependent on your nonsensical rants? So..... did the officer have the authority to take her into custody or use force to do so? Without knowing any more than what is on the video I would still say that yes he did. Did the amount of force used against her comply with "necessary force"? I don't see how.

How disturbing is it? Can it be as disturbing as the FBI UCR stats that show in 2013 one race of people committed 55% of all homicides where the actor was know and that is more than 420% more than their population? Think about that for a minute if we didn't have stats to back it up. We have 13% of the population committing 55% of the murders. If we have statistics to back up that the most violent crime is committed at such a high rate, can that same conclusion be reasonable for other areas? Those same stats show that about 90% of all murders were committed by men. Is that fact prejudicial? Does it show a sexual bias against men? It is easy to use stats as stand alone questions but I trust the FBI stats more than some of the stuff that simply pops up on the internet, like your next post that showed the post above was at least partially bogus. Does it make things worth looking at? Sure. Do stats alone prove anything? If so then we can conclude that one population is at least 400% more violent than the rest of them combined.

NEWSFLASH: That makes it extremely dangerous!! I'm going out on a limb and guessing that being hit by a board (or any other debris) flying through the air at 280 mph is not going to have good results.

Love the media and their headlines. It is an "extremely dangerous" Cat 5 hurricane. Is that as opposed to a fairly mild Cat 5 storm?

That little tidbit keeps going over people's heads or they play ostrich and stick their heads in the sand and act like they don't see it. The Bill Clinton excuse. Lying under oath is legal if you are a Clinton.

So you are admitting that Hillary and the State Department ignored the warnings and are using Bush as an analogy?

Did you scale it down to avatar or icon size?

Apparently he fooled a bunch of cops.

It looks like the only thing this had to do with a school is because it was where at least one idiot met other people. Never let the facts get in the way of a good headline............

Well, that might be a true rhetorical statement/question if all 6,000 went to sanctuary cities, never left those sanctuary cities, actually intended to vote and if 6,000 votes spread across the entire country of 50 states could actually sway a vote in any particular state. In the most recent presidential election the closest states in votes was the small population state of Alaska won by the Republicans by 44,000 votes and Florida won by the Democrats by 64,000 votes. No, I can't see where 6,000 more votes scattered across the entire country, even if all voting for the same person, would have any effect on a presidential election. I figured that anyone could see my statement as a joke and I can't believe that somehow actually could see this as a voter scam.

That would not be correct. Very few people in any case serve out their sentences. There is good time, parole, etc.

I am wondering how anyone wouldn't take it as a joke.

With an expected close election coming up, more Democratic voters are being released in time for November 2016.

Entry level police officers don't make that bad. The other professions? Maybe. I think out of teachers, firefighters, military and medics, the police are far out in front. In the Golden Triangle area, the three largest police agencies start out at about $55K+ by the end of the first year. That is with a GED and less than 5 months in the police academy. In this area a patrolman (equal to roughly a military private) tops out at about $75K base with incentives on top of that. I think PAPD starts out of the academy at about $25.50 per hour and BPD starts at about $26.50. The next step/rank up, sergeants, makes $84-$90K base w/incentives (longevity/certificates/shift differential) and that does not including overtime. EMTs/Paramedics are the ones that take a beating.

No they would not. They cannot write a document that speaks of personal freedom and then say.... "As long as you agree with my ideas". I believe that they were intelligent beyond what many or most people today can comprehend. With freedom comes the belief that we can have a disagreement in lifestyles. I believe they saw that and documented it. Even when you say that they were vague about the "creator", if you take them for their words then they agreed that there was a creator and therefore not atheists that believe that is no creator.

It is more like propaganda was formally used almost exclusively by governments but now with social media, every individual can get in the act.

I upped my order to 4,000 rounds because other people wanted some.

I just ordered 2,000 rounds of 9mm.

It looks like this guy went down in a shootout with the police. Of course he may have taken the typical coward's way out be killing himself once the police started firing to keep from being captured.

Yep. I think this is a conspiracy by store owners to drive up the price of ammo.

Who is "you people"?

If 90,000 people packed into a stadium and paid to watch me interview a witness or if they put it on video and 10 million people paid to watch it, I might make a lot more money. Me writing a $125 citation or talking to a victim doesn't drag in quite the same money as Payton Manning. Until then...........