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  Twitter is so people are allowed to be heard without being aloud.  :)

    Yesterday I saw a couple of different photos of mothers covering their babies faces against the tear gas (according to the media reporting the photos).    My initial thought was how stupid these women were to be at a protest of any kind, much less with a lot of violence, and toting small babies or children. Then they expose defenseless children who they have a lawful obligation to protect to rubber bullets and tear gas. My second thought was that they should be arrested for child abuse.    How stupid can some people get? 

I asked for this forum to be created after being contacted by Admin about complaints that the Locker Room had more politics that other issues and was turning into a one sided continual diatribe. For that reason the powers in control agreed to try a political forum so that at least there would be a non-political place to post other than sports issues (Locker Room) and someone could ignore politics by merely not viewing the forum. Apparently some people do not have that ability to draw themselves away from a train wreck however.    This forum has degraded into the same topics over and over. Even the titles of many threads call out other members or the "other side". That alone should tell you that it isn't about an issue per se but in fanning the flames. Topics such as:   How we know Smitty is a low intelligence quotient human being Big GIrl: your thoughts on unqualified supervisors 16 threads without a reply Teabaggers hate main stream media........... Big Girl, what do you think of this analogy   Other threads are continually posted about our side against your side like "low information voter" threads, Republicans/GOP are criminals or teabaggers are racists.   In my opinion an example valid political topic would be, should PAISD get a new bond after just passing one a few years ago or even Will Hillary run (but leaving out personal snipes). A person can easily give an opinion that PAISD does or does not need a bond without calling Obama poll numbers into it or mentioning race for the sake of mentioning race. You can answer that Hillary will run and be almost guaranteed a win or that she will likely opt out after not wanting to face examination of her time as Secretary of State or Benghazi issues. There is nothing wrong with either side if respectfully given.   If it was up to me, I would be deleting threads without the need for explanations that do nothing but post another opinion about one side or the other by posting a link from a politically slanted website that shows Dems/GOP are crooks, Obama lied, teabaggers anything, etc. Especially threads only call out one side or the other or are directed at an individual. If you want to flame, go to another website. There should be some valid political threads without all the silliness.     Not so long ago we almost lost all political posting from the Locker Room so this spin-off forum was created as sort of an experiment. It looks like the experiment is about to fail. If admin approves I will start deleting threads (probably a majority of ones created lately) and if people don't like it, they can move on to another website. There are plenty of places to post political opinions on the Internet. I would like the ability to discuss some issues if it can be done with respect and especially if it has some local issue even if it is a national story with local interest like the Keystone Pipeline.    If not, I think Admin will simply delete this forum and not allow any political issues in the Locker Room. 

  Idiots wanting their 1.5 seconds of fame and acting out.    Then you have comments from people that have no clue of law, authority or rights and spit out their opinions (not facts) but are reported as facts. 

  That is a fairly true statement. If you ask (off the record) police officers from any department, they can mention officers that should not be there. I still don't know any of them that have shot anyone without a great cause and if we only went by "lawful" use of force, many mid to large size departments could kill people every day and be cleared of wrongdoing.    The public for the most part has no clue how many deadly force situations an officer faces in a career where the could have been lawful use of deadly force. There are probably 5 or 6 times that I can think of in my career that I could have lawfully used that amount of force and I was lucky to live without doing so. I have watched several videos of officers that died because they went too far in not using lawful force to defend themselves. 

  With the keyword being "peacefully". 

  If she gets in with the criminal riot she will be.   In TX it takes 7 people and all that participate are committing a criminal offense. Under our law, what is happening up there is definitely a riot. 

  A curfew depends on declaring a state of emergency under the laws of that state. It depends on MO law on what can be an emergency, who can declare it and to what extent it allows such actions.    We have declared a curfew during hurricanes after the mayor declared a state of emergency under TX law and a violation of the curfew was a Class B misdemeanor or up to 6 months in jail. We did arrest a few people for that violation. 

Sure, everyone wants to avoid traffic citations. 

... also noting that the bastion of the left, MSNBC, rated a whopping 31% on the truth meter. So almost 70% of the time, MSNBC is outright lying and that is what many on the left want to hang their hat on?   This is another gibberish "study" that is nothing but opinions of readers and taking statements out of context. It is not different than BISD a couple of years ago being named one of the top 10 districts in the USA..... after they advertised in a magazine or some other sort of pay for rating scheme. 

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The GOP is reeling?    Tell that to the Dems who are very much in fear of losing the Senate and completely aware that they will not get the House.    How does a party that is reeling, control by a good margin in one house, is barely losing in the other and may take over in November? 

It is one crime reporter's "study" of what he calls criminal organizations. It is meaningless gibberish.    It is about the same as saying that about 90% of street criminals (robbers, drug sellers, rapists, thieves, etc.) in prisons voted Democratic.    Anyone want to trade a corporation or CEO not paying taxes with a child rapist?  

We always hear the "3" thing. I can see it compared to movie stars or other groups. But a teenager that was fighting with the police in a group of two movie legends? Hmmmm......   The police kill about 400 people every year. It is probably safe to say that since the Ferguson, MO incident, 3-5 more people have been killed in confrontations with the police.   If I was a legendary movie star........ I would still be worried. 

  That is what the 40+ people arrested have said. 

Don't cross police barricades or refuse to comply with lawful orders.    Being pregnant, protesting or being a woman is not an exemption from stupidity. 

  Since we have no clue what it is, I guess the speculation can be wide open. If it is poor construction then you have to wonder if a lawsuit is a more appropriate venue.    No matter what happened, it appears that someone must have messed up if the construction was not up to code or if the planning was poor. I don't believe that there is some big expansion of student population at play. I think Memorial is losing students, not gaining them. 

  Yes, the taxpayers will pay for it under the proposal. The "no cost to taxpayers" means no raising of taxes however that means that not passing the bond should lower taxes. We know that a government agency does not want to lower taxes once people are used to paying them.................   From what I read in the PA News article, part of the bond is to renovate DeQueen Elementary and Memorial High School. Those facilities just opened in 2010 as brand new buildings. They now need renovating?    That seems to be poor planning if you build a brand new multi-million dollar school and four years later you need a bond for renovations. 

  No. Like I said, it is a yes and no answer.    Yes murder is not lesser included (that is your yes).   In the same sentence you went on to say, "prosecution is not barred". I believe that is your "no". Attempted Murder is the lesser included offense and that bars any further prosecution for that action. In my opinion prosecution is barred.    The level of the offense has no bearing.    If it happened in a place that has dual jurisdiction (federal and state) and only one gets a guilty on a lesser included offense or even a not guilty verdict, the other jurisdiction can prosecute. For example if a guy kills a president, he can be tried for murder under federal law and under the state law where it happened, no matter what happened in the other jurisdiction. I don't think DC has any state jurisdiction over it so only the feds can (and already did) file charges. 

  Which is huge either way.    I can't tell how many times I have heard that a witness "saw the whole thing" and then start giving a statement like, "I heard a loud crash and ran around the corner to see.............." or "I heard three quick shot and ran outside to see...........".   My answer is always, "No, you didn't see the whole thing". Most of the time they want to argue but it really doesn't matter in the long run. What they did see might still be very important but it will never be front the start and likely will not show the cause. So many of our witnesses start their story with hearing a noise (gun shot, crash, yelling, etc.) and then looked to see what was happening.   

You are right but you are wrong. Murder is not a lesser included offense but that has no bearing. Att Murder is the lesser included offense and if a person is convicted of the lesser included offense, those elements can no longer be used against him. It would be double jeopardy. All of the lesser included offenses discussion seems to be a moot point however. In wikipedia it says that John Hinkley Jr was tried on 13 federal counts. I am assuming that the shooting of Brady was one if them. The article says that he was found not guilty by reasons of insanity. If he was found not guilty, he can no longer be tried for any of those charges. That is assuming that not guilty was for all counts and that shooting Brady was one of them.

I have been a Missouri police officer for the last week including today. Fortunately it is on the other side of the state. I have read several news articles on the incident and all that I have found out is that there are no facts released other than an 18 year old is dead, a police officer killed him and the community says that the police have to be at fault.

......and yes hippy, you got sucked in to arguing with the baiters, trollers and outright idiots.

There is no evidence that I have seen that shows his throat was cut or any other injuries caused by another person. There is plenty of speculation and wishful thinking of some people that for various reasons want it to be true. One woman on Facebook yesterday was stating that he had been dead less than 24 hours when found. That apparently proves that he was kidnapped and held for days. There is no way that his body would be that decomposed after such a short time frame yet this becomes another believed "fact". I am sure however that hundreds of people read her comments and a few will then repeat that as a fact.

Lots of news stories on this case so I have no clue which ones you may have read. I never saw NYPD deny the hold but said that it was not the cause if death. That may or may not be true. You bring up a good point though because the NY coroner ruled it a homicide. So even though a police department claimed one thing, another government agency came up with a different conclusion. In the Wright case we have the county sheriff, the DA, the Jefferson County coroner (who is from out of state and has no connection to this area), the Texas Rangers, the FBI, a second private autopsy hired by the family and the US Attorney's office under Eric Holder doing independent investigations and none have come up with evidence if a homicide. In NY it took only the next step to say that one human killed another (even if justified). In the Wright case it has gone all the way up to Obama's Justice Department and they all ended up with the same conclusion.